Who in the Navy gets to decide when they sink a ship?

[Stephany]

I know we've got some navy people in the lounge..
So, when they decide a ship is too old, or ugly, or special...

Who decides to pop a hole in it and sink it to make a coral reef?

[TheBimbo]

Lbrty does of course ;) ...


Christy...:rollface:

[der_wille_zur_macht]

The dude on the right.

http://media.threadless.com/product/212/view1.jpg

[TheBimbo]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7573639#post7573639 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by der_wille_zur_macht
The dude on the right.

http://media.threadless.com/product/212/view1.jpg

lmao... I thought he was taller, and not sooo scrawney looking ;) ...


Christy...:rollface:

[Scuba_Dave]

The government doesn't decide to sink them
Many are rusting apart at port

Private groups must raise the money to have them stripped, cleaned & sunk. Can be VERY expensive - millions

For a refurb/musuem at dock you hav eto prove you can rehab the ship & maintain it

[ReeferMac]

Ditto what Dave said. There's actually a whole swirling debate among several circles, because many of the dry-docks where they do the cleaning and decomissioning, are in 3rd world countries where environmental laws are much more lax (and the cleanup much cheaper!). Course whole villiages w/ Mercury poisoning doesn't look good to the UN, so there's a political cost as well... And yes, the military gets ancy whenever any foreigner's take a look at the bowel's of their beasts, even if they are 50-years old.

- Mac

[mike4271]

Just one word from Lbrty, and it is a done deal, only time he wears his uniform now.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Chuck_Norris_award_2.jpg/200px-Chuck_Norris_award_2.jpg

[Minuteman]

Ex-USS Stump

http://media.hamptonroads.com/images/military/jdsink1.jpg

http://media.hamptonroads.com/images/military/jdsink2.jpg

http://media.hamptonroads.com/images/military/jdsink3.jpg

http://media.hamptonroads.com/images/military/jdsink4.jpg

http://media.hamptonroads.com/images/military/jdsink5.jpg

http://media.hamptonroads.com/images/military/jdsink6.jpg

http://media.hamptonroads.com/images/military/jdsink7.jpg

http://media.hamptonroads.com/images/military/jdsink8.jpg

Here you can see where Chuck Norris was practicing roundhouse kicks on the stern...


http://media.hamptonroads.com/images/military/jdsink9.jpg

http://media.hamptonroads.com/images/military/jdsink10.jpg

[Monkey_Bone]

Check out the straif in the 3rd and 8th pic. Thats awsome!
:)

[Minuteman]

Mk 48 torp shot...

http://navysite.de/dd/dd-images/dd973sink2.jpg

http://navysite.de/dd/dd-images/dd973sink3.jpg

http://navysite.de/dd/dd-images/dd973sink4.jpg

http://navysite.de/dd/dd-images/dd973sink6.jpg

[Muttling]

Is the MK48 the one that basically blows the water out from under the center of the ship and uses her own weight to snap her back instead of penetrating the hull?

[mike4271]

Looking at the second pic Mutt, it looks as if it broke its back the other way, bow and stern down, midships up in the air

[Minuteman]

No, the MK48 has got a pretty sizeable warhead in it...

General Characteristics, MK-48, MK-48 (ADCAP)

Primary Function: Heavyweight torpedo for submarines.
Contractor: Gould.
Date Deployed: 1972.
Propulsion: Piston engine; pump jet.
Length: 19 feet (5.79 meters).
Diameter: 21 inches (53.34 centimeters).
Weight: 3,434 lbs (1545.3 kg) (MK-48); 3,695 lbs (1662.75 kg) (MK-48 ADCAP).
Speed: Greater than 28 knots (32.2 mph, 51.52 kph).
Range: Greater than 5 miles (8 km).
Depth: Greater than 1,200 ft (365.76 meters).
Guidance System: Wire guided and passive/active acoustic homing.
Warhead: 650 lbs (292.5 kg) high explosive.

[Muttling]

Warhead: 650 lbs (292.5 kg) high explosive.

Yep, that'll leave a mark.

[Stephany]

Soooo.... is there really much gain?

So we help the environment develop by giving the underwater structure, but possibly put toxins back into the ocean elsewhere?

[Minuteman]

They clean those ships up pretty good before sinkex. The return to the aquatic environment is pretty significant.

[Scuba_Dave]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7579685#post7579685 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Stephany
Soooo.... is there really much gain?

So we help the environment develop by giving the underwater structure, but possibly put toxins back into the ocean elsewhere?

umm....rereading the thread...
That's why it costs a LOT of money to clean the ship before sinking. AND why a lot of ship stripping - not just military - occurs over seas - where life is "cheap" and there aren't the tight controls that exist here

Also why a lot of supertankers fly foreign flags...and are used until they virtually fall apart

[Muttling]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7580590#post7580590 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Scuba_Dave
umm....rereading the thread...

Also why a lot of supertankers fly foreign flags...and are used until they virtually fall apart

The common routine among metals recyclers is to purchase a ship for her final voyage then pull her into port and load her down with scrap steel.

Ship it to a foreign country for scrapping out and sell them the salvage value of the ship along with the load.