Anyone Here into Drifting ~

[XsploveReefin]

Just thought i would see if anyone on the forum is into drifting.
I have been drifting for about 5 years placed top three in 2 drift showoffs one in Cali and the over in Van B.C.

I will post some pics of my car in a few mins~

[der_wille_zur_macht]

You know, just when you think you're drifting along, you'll realize you're slip-sliding away.

[bulldog12]

Nope, but I love watching it.. :D I just love my Mustang to much to try it.

[hogpark7430]

What is drifting?

[PoukieBear]

What's drifting??

[XsploveReefin]

Here are some pics from events and it just chillin.

This is my 98 240sx
Pics are from an Event in Berkley Cali and some local events~
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http://www.nissanculture.com/PIC/14TUCKED.jpg
http://www.nissanculture.com/PIC/IMG_0832.jpg
http://www.nissanculture.com/PIC/My%20240sx.jpg
http://www.nissanculture.com/PIC/cage4.jpg
http://www.nissanculture.com/PIC/14TUCKED2.jpg
http://www.nissanculture.com/PIC/DirtyDrop.jpg

[der_wille_zur_macht]

I've got mad dorifto skillz, YO!

Seriously, drifting is the art of making a vehicle slide around in an artistic manner. It's basically a really long, controlled skid on a racetrack or other controlled area.

[XsploveReefin]

Drifting is a Motorsports were you are judged going around a track at High Speeds in a Controlled Slide. You are judged on Speed, Angle, Clipping Point/Apex of the corners and your personal Style.

[Stephany]

Sooo.... you go through a lot of tires and like the smell of burning rubber.

[emilye2]

I'm thinkin' that's hell on tires.....

[der_wille_zur_macht]

Pretty much. A friend of mine does it - he has a T-shirt that says "I like to turn money into tire smoke."

On the flip side, it can be fun to watch if you're into cars and have an open mind.

[XsploveReefin]

Yeah you go through alot of tire. But whats people dont understand we are going faster through the corner then say a car under a gripping situation

[der_wille_zur_macht]

I'd strongly argue against that point. If that were the case, every driver at every auto-x I've ever been involved in totally sucked, because none of them were drifting, so by your argument, they were slower than they could have been.

[Nina51]

i've drifted on horseback. does that count?

[tkeracer619]

drifting is nutz. I have a fwd or I would be all over it. My crew has some sr20 240's so I know what its about............. Everyonce in a while I get to try.

But really I learned to drift in a snowy parking lot in my jacked up jeep. I took one of my friends who drifts 4wheelin. He baught a jeep for his next project. Off road drift racing anyone?



It is nearly impossible to drift a street car, you mustang would crack under the pressure. I would do it a couple times though to see what she will do.

Cars that drift are in general pupose biult. Cage, huge turbo, urithane bushings, solid motor mounts, welded diffs, special alignment settings. Sure it doesnt require a cage or anything to learn. If you constantly drift a steet car it will trash it in no time.

That said I have a 2007 Sky Redline on preorder. 260hp rwd stock turbo. A few mods and I am gonna see how well that car can take it. Can't wait to tear it up.

[spivack]

Interesting for this community "drifting in a plane is called side slipping and is Also known as Crab or crabbing

[tkeracer619]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7529666#post7529666 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by spivack
Interesting for this community "drifting in a plane is called side slipping and is Also known as Crab or crabbing


Get a tank already. ;)

[XsploveReefin]

But Drifting originated from Touge Which is Mountain Racing that started in japan. I have raced in the mountains before and the fastest people up there are not gripping. I guess its all personal prefrence but if i can beat a Built WRX uphill when i am doing a race drift not a show drift then its all down to driver.

[XsploveReefin]

A Video From a Few years ago~ (http://www.nissanculture.com/boostedup.mov)

[XsploveReefin]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7529707#post7529707 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tkeracer619
Get a tank already. ;)


Yeah You should have seen this awesome crab i did on the street over there. It will work

[der_wille_zur_macht]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7529708#post7529708 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by XsploveReefin
But Drifting originated from Touge Which is Mountain Racing that started in japan. I have raced in the mountains before and the fastest people up there are not gripping. I guess its all personal prefrence but if i can beat a Built WRX uphill when i am doing a race drift not a show drift then its all down to driver.

In specific situations, it can surely be fast. Offroad rally racing is an obvious example. However, telling a bunch of people that don't know better that drifting is faster around a corner than navigating the corner without sliding is misleading, IMHO.

[der_wille_zur_macht]

BTW, people were "drifting" looooong before Touge existed.

http://www.trollhattansaab.net/images/96/1000812small.jpg

[XsploveReefin]

Thats On gravel Not Pavement. Thats not drifting its Rally. For your to understand it you would have to do it.

[der_wille_zur_macht]

It's not that I don't "believe." It has nothing to do with belief, these are cold hard facts. I *know* drifting a car set up for it can be faster than that car might go under grip, and I wasn't trying to argue, just pointing out that it's definitely not always true (especially vs. cars set up to grip well and drive without drifting).

[der_wille_zur_macht]

PS - a free cookie to anyone who can identify the car, the man, or the event for the photo I posted above. No cheating by looking at the URL!

[XsploveReefin]

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[joeychitwood]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7529519#post7529519 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by XsploveReefin
Drifting is a Motorsports were you are judged going around a track at High Speeds in a Controlled Slide. You are judged on Speed, Angle, Clipping Point/Apex of the corners and your personal Style. Sounds like winter here in northern Minnesota.

[XsploveReefin]

Check this out and tell me that its slow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIZ2L9Qsjmc)

[der_wille_zur_macht]

Christ, I never said it was "slow." I was just trying to point out that it's definitely NOT the overall fastest way around a racetrack.

I'm a fan of drifting but I've been involved in motorsports since before it existed, so I guess my perspective is a little wider. It's a great art form, that's for sure. It *can* be fast, but if it was the *fastest* way to drive, then every car in ALMS, Rolex, BTCC, DTM, SWC, and every other sportscar series out there would be drifting every corner at every event - and none of them are.

[tkeracer619]

Like me, im biult for curves. I like meh leather.


http://us.st11.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/I/yhst-14323203702459_1882_153189827
http://us.st11.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/I/yhst-14323203702459_1882_173951109
http://us.st11.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/I/yhst-14323203702459_1882_202227554

[DecoyDave]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7530015#post7530015 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by der_wille_zur_macht
PS - a free cookie to anyone who can identify the car, the man, or the event for the photo I posted above. No cheating by looking at the URL!

Dont know the car or event, but i believe that is John Candy? Cookie anyone?

[tkeracer619]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7530048#post7530048 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by der_wille_zur_macht
Christ, I never said it was "slow." I was just trying to point out that it's definitely NOT the overall fastest way around a racetrack.

I'm a fan of drifting but I've been involved in motorsports since before it existed, so I guess my perspective is a little wider. It's a great art form, that's for sure. It *can* be fast, but if it was the *fastest* way to drive, then every car in ALMS, Rolex, BTCC, DTM, SWC, and every other sportscar series out there would be drifting every corner at every event - and none of them are.

Um no can we say pit stop for tire changes. They need more than 3 laps per pit.

[XsploveReefin]

I will have to post pics of our 680hp Hatch back~ With a GT40r

[tkeracer619]

mmm gt40r right now im on a gt38rs. getting the gt4071r soon

make me drool. gotta love gt series turbos

btw thats a dart 2.0l block and dpr turbo head. no problems pushing those numbers :)

600hp hondas are something most don't want to drive. They feel like motorcycles. Heck mine already feels like one.

[der_wille_zur_macht]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7530070#post7530070 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DecoyDave
Dont know the car or event, but i believe that is John Candy? Cookie anyone?

Not even close! ;) This guy is a "real" driver, not an actor.

[bulldog12]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7530184#post7530184 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by der_wille_zur_macht
Not even close! ;) This guy is a "real" driver, not an actor.

:lol: :lol: I thought it was John Candy too!! :lol:

[XsploveReefin]

Its a Sabb Does that help~

[der_wille_zur_macht]

Finally, someone with at least a clue! :D

[joeychitwood]

Erik Carlsson???

[der_wille_zur_macht]

Ding ding ding we have a winner! It is indeed "on the top" Erik. The photo was actually staged for a beer commercial.

What's your favorite kind of cookie, Doc?

[joeychitwood]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7530863#post7530863 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by der_wille_zur_macht
What's your favorite kind of cookie, Doc? Peanut butter cookies with chocolate icing!

[Hunter21]

this is one of my favorite videos of all time!!! lol

this guy got owned! (http://www.jokaroo.com/funnyvideos/didnt_see_that_cop.html)

[der_wille_zur_macht]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7531025#post7531025 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by joeychitwood
Peanut butter cookies with chocolate icing!

Geez, pick something I've never done before!

[XsploveReefin]

Thats funny now back to drifting.

[XsploveReefin]

And that guy is doing a donut which requires no skill just stupidity.

[der_wille_zur_macht]

This is the lounge. If threads stay on topic for more than 8.2 seconds, they're automatically removed. Be glad that we've saved you from that sorry fate.

[XsploveReefin]

Yeahhhhh

[JmLee]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7529581#post7529581 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by XsploveReefin
Yeah you go through alot of tire. But whats people dont understand we are going faster through the corner then say a car under a gripping situation

thats something that i can argue about. Drifting is not so much a racing technique, more like a style. See when u are drifting your rear end, you are loosing traction. If you are loosing traction u cannot accelerate under full throttle. When some one is racing, they are trying to find the most effiecent way to take the turn and track not only that but one other goal is to avoid as much traction loss as possible, because when u loose traction, you loose speed. Thats why there is such thing as the APEX. Drifting is simply a art form as some would perceive. But it is definitley not faster then conventional racing techniques.

[XsploveReefin]

Ok you win i dont wanna argue about this anymore. This is done lets talk about drifting or anyone else on this forum that drifts.

I understand in a racing stuation but you can watch F1 Cars going into a corner hot at an angle on the edge of control and going through that corner faster then another car.

[XsploveReefin]

Also Watch That Video of Tanuguchi. In the AE86

[JmLee]

F1 cars is where its at, that and WRC, screw Nascar.... ( just a personal opinion )

[XsploveReefin]

That is what we call a race drift you are actually entering the corner fast then a car with full grip. But its hard on tires and takes alot of skill and controll for it to happen smootly.

[JmLee]

yeah but just because u entered the turn faster doesnt mean your going to come out faster. If you hit that turn faster than i do and u start to drift and i take the turn cuting from outside to inside im gona come out of that turn much faster.

[Anemone]

Was at the movies this weekend and they're advertising the new "Fast and Furious" movie (#3) - it;s called Tokyo Drift or some such. Once it comes out every teenage boy is going to want to be out drifting his mom's pontiac. Oh joy. :rolleyes:

Kevin

[Fred_J]

I use my Boxster around town, stomping on gas on a 90 degree
turn to break the worn out rear wheels loose. It snaps back into straight line with no fish tailing at all. It really makes errands around town fun.

I'm going to sell it before I get caught, plus I really need the money. I could never do this in the 95 vet I used to have. The 50/50 weight distribution makes handling so easy you don't need to have autocross or racing experience to handle it.
Best (most fun) vehicle I've ever driven, except for the HD of course.

I would love to get it on an empty parking lot before I buy new tires.

[swegyptian]

Is it Erik or Bob, or something like that?

[tkeracer619]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7530096#post7530096 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tkeracer619
mmm gt40r right now im on a gt38rs. getting the gt4071r soon

make me drool. gotta love gt series turbos

btw thats a dart 2.0l block and dpr turbo head. no problems pushing those numbers :)

600hp hondas are something most don't want to drive. They feel like motorcycles. Heck mine already feels like one.

Yeah so i was off a bit..... was thinking about it. I have a gt28rs not 38rs lol. and im gettin a 3071r not a 4071.

[der_wille_zur_macht]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7531939#post7531939 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by XsploveReefin

I understand in a racing stuation but you can watch F1 Cars going into a corner hot at an angle on the edge of control and going through that corner faster then another car.

That's because they entered the corner hotter, NOT because they were "drifting!" F1 cars have traction control programs designed specifically to counteract yaw, which would lead intelligent people to the conclusion that any sort of drifting at all isn't in their plan. ;)

[Hunter21]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7532140#post7532140 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Anemone
Was at the movies this weekend and they're advertising the new "Fast and Furious" movie (#3) - it;s called Tokyo Drift or some such. Once it comes out every teenage boy is going to want to be out drifting his mom's pontiac. Oh joy. :rolleyes:

Kevin

most of them already do that around my neck of the woods, give an empty road with a speed limit of 65 and a couple of teenagers in buicks and the possibilities are endless, I hear one coming as I type! :rolleyes: lol

Erin

[XsploveReefin]

Yeah the movie comes out the 16th of this month and i will see it on the 13th.

[beerguy]

Loosing traction on a turn in a F1 car allows you to meet Dale Earnhardt.

[SirTony76]

Drifting isn't the fastest way around a corner. It may be fast, but it is not the fastest. Think about where your energy is going...

TP

[tkeracer619]

wow you guys are still on this subject. how can you compare f1 vs a drift car. It just doesnt make sense. anyways how can you compare any different classes anyways.

F1 cars have way to much traction to drift. they can drive upsidown at stupid slow speeds.

I would bet a $$$ none of you can take his type of car and beet him around the track without drifting while he does. It just wont happen. it is faster period.

I said it 2 pages ago. Races that last longer than 3 laps can't drift or they would kill thier tires. F1 tires are almost paper thin to dissipate the heat. If an f1 cars tires could hang and it could be put into a controlled slide imagine all that power that could be added into the equation.

Stop bickering already about this and that. If you got a f1 car keep on talking your trash otherwise why litter a topic with the same statement over and over.

Since you guys missed it I will say it again. Drifting eats tires, in no way could you pace a few laps around a track and expect to be faster when you have to pit every 3 instead of 30.

[tkeracer619]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7532019#post7532019 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JmLee
yeah but just because u entered the turn faster doesnt mean your going to come out faster. If you hit that turn faster than i do and u start to drift and i take the turn cuting from outside to inside im gona come out of that turn much faster.


:lol: drifting doesnt work like that unless you are drifting for the curb.:rolleyes:

[XsploveReefin]

Thank you ^

[JmLee]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7535825#post7535825 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tkeracer619
:lol: drifting doesnt work like that unless you are drifting for the curb.:rolleyes:

i was simply comparing taking a corner from drifting to gripping. outside to inside is WAY faster then drifting, no matter how you candy coat it, or argue about it, it really doesnt matter TK, please keep the rolling of the eyes to ur self buddy. Its all in good debating. Peace. Oh ad btw, im not one of those " drifting is stupid nazi's " i enjoy watching drifting, i have been for a long time and i even have friends that are really big fans of it. But i am just stating the truth and the facts, not trying to put any one down for what they enjoy.

[JmLee]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7535814#post7535814 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tkeracer619
wow you guys are still on this subject. how can you compare f1 vs a drift car. It just doesnt make sense. anyways how can you compare any different classes anyways.

F1 cars have way to much traction to drift. they can drive upsidown at stupid slow speeds.

I would bet a $$$ none of you can take his type of car and beet him around the track without drifting while he does. It just wont happen. it is faster period.

I said it 2 pages ago. Races that last longer than 3 laps can't drift or they would kill thier tires. F1 tires are almost paper thin to dissipate the heat. If an f1 cars tires could hang and it could be put into a controlled slide imagine all that power that could be added into the equation.

Stop bickering already about this and that. If you got a f1 car keep on talking your trash otherwise why litter a topic with the same statement over and over.

Since you guys missed it I will say it again. Drifting eats tires, in no way could you pace a few laps around a track and expect to be faster when you have to pit every 3 instead of 30.

btw your reading this wrong, no body is comparing anything besides grip and drift, i was just saying F1 is awsome dude..... dont read to far into it.

[tkeracer619]

sure but the way you described drifting was incorrect. the roll eyes were there......... because I said "unless you are drifting into the curb"

not reading into it im just trying to make a point. Take a 240 around a track, or take a 240 around the track in a hp induced slide or drift. You can gain lateral g's from your rear tires pushing you to the inside of the turn. Thats what they do when they drift and thus the higher corner speed. They still use centrifical force when exiting a turn as the outside to inside to ouside patern is still used.

[beerguy]

http://images.hopdog.com/drifters.jpg

[JmLee]

oh i know they still use the outside to inside, how ever u are still loosing traction there for u are still loosing speed, that is some thing you and i cannot change just by saying so, because it is physics. The ultimate goal in setting up suspension is to achieve maximum traction and control... In drifting its more towards well... drifting.. that is why i said drifting is art of driving and in its own class rather then a style of driving. Look at all the race classes out there F1 , Nascar, indy, scca formula scca sport, lemans, professional drag racing. etc etc etc. the list goes on, and in all those classes the goal for suspension and tires is traction and control. Even in WRC which i am a huge fan of concentrates on traction and control. Many people state " oh rally racing is drifting " but in sense it really isnt. Drifting is in its own class and its own form, There is a reason why all those classes strive for maximum traction and control, it is because the more you have the faster u are, Thats why the power plant is a key component but not necessarly the most important.

[JmLee]

put it this way.... water is wet, ice is cold, fire is hot, it is what it is, you and i cant change it because almost 100% of the idealogy and concept/theory in racing and racing suspension is science. I spent 3 years studying automotive technology, autotronics and suspension and drivetrain and if one thing i learn, is this. Everything is Mathmatics, science, porportioning.

[beerguy]

http://www.osobnosti.cz/images/popisky/293.jpg

[SirTony76]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7536657#post7536657 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tkeracer619
sure but the way you described drifting was incorrect. the roll eyes were there......... because I said "unless you are drifting into the curb"

not reading into it im just trying to make a point. Take a 240 around a track, or take a 240 around the track in a hp induced slide or drift. You can gain lateral g's from your rear tires pushing you to the inside of the turn. Thats what they do when they drift and thus the higher corner speed. They still use centrifical force when exiting a turn as the outside to inside to ouside patern is still used.

Learn physics before you start talking about it.:lmao:

[jpfelix]

good thing rowan was a drifter! otherwise he wouldn't have gotten to the locker first.