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kmaxwell
05/03/2006, 08:32 PM
Everything seemed to be going fine in my tank and with in the last 2 days i have had exessive algae, now i see about 4 differant kinds of algae including lots of bubble algae thats started today.What are the causes of something like that?

H2OLUVSME
05/04/2006, 07:51 AM
nutrient overload is the main cause IME. could be from over feeding, an animal (or small group) dying, or reduction in nutrient export.

do you have any corals not looking so hot or recently found dead? clams? snails?

do you have any sponges or other debris traps in your system?
check them out if you do.

is your skimmer functioning properly? skimming enough?
is the cup overfilled dumping back into your sump?

has flow been reduced in the tank recently?

how old are your light bulbs?

have you rearranged any rock/sand recently?

your answer may lie within the answers of these questions. good luck!



EDIT: BTW, bubble algae is a low nutrient low light algae so its unexplainable what causes blooms of this stuff. the general consensus is manual removal or possibly emerald crabs are the best forms of removal. i like to use both. the crabs hopefully will eliminate whatever pieces you cant get to, but you need to remove all that can see or get out manually.

dvmsn
05/04/2006, 10:21 AM
Your tank is very new and the live rock could still be curing. It is extremely common for people to get an algae bloom at this stage of the development of your tank. Most people fight with it at least once. Don’t lose heart. I would recommend significantly increasing your herbivore load like we discussed at the fish store. I just don’t think those inlet snails do a sufficient job.

H2OLUVSME
05/04/2006, 11:48 AM
i didnt realize it was a new tank. time and algae eaters are definatly your best bet with a fresh set up.

dvmsn
05/04/2006, 12:43 PM
Landon, I think I can hear it calling you back.

H2OLUVSME
05/04/2006, 02:21 PM
ive been thinking of setting up something small. Sarah is geting a new office and she wants me to set her up a tank. im trying to talk her into letting me set her up a nano reef for some SPS, my Yellow watchman (only survivor of my tank), and a pistol shrimp. she is indecisive though and says she may want a vivarium. if she ends up with a vivarium we'll have to work on her for a new reef at the house.

bugshop
05/04/2006, 03:09 PM
I knew you couldn't stay away;)

chad508
05/04/2006, 03:16 PM
small, meaning a 180 i hope

H2OLUVSME
05/05/2006, 11:40 AM
Sarah is thinking one of the 24 gallon nanos. im thinking of making a custom cube about 18x18x18 or 24x24x24

kmaxwell
05/05/2006, 05:44 PM
thanks guys, that sailfin tang and the emerald crabs cleaned up almost everything by the time i got home from work today.

chad508
05/05/2006, 08:42 PM
thats great kyle

Snprhed
05/09/2006, 10:57 AM
I have a comment here. We have been talking about that on our local site. I always thought exactly what you guys are saying, however ponder this. I have a 20H with no fish 10-15 sps frags, some zoos some shrooms and several (5) clams. It has a 10K 150w MH and a Deltec APF 600 for the skimmer. There cannot be that much excess nutrient in the system. Our local site seems to be leaning toward a temp as a mitigating factor. Its not hair algae that I have been experiencing it is cyano.


Discuss

dvmsn
05/09/2006, 11:26 AM
Add some salt water maracyn to the tank and watch it go away overnight.

H2OLUVSME
05/09/2006, 12:28 PM
cyano is also a lower nutrient algae than GHA. it really only needs a low amount of PO4 and a quiet area to spread.

what type of flow do you have in the tank?


also, how old is the tank?

Snprhed
05/09/2006, 02:58 PM
There are a 2 pumps, one is like 400LPH the other feeds the protein skimmer, its like a 300 LPH. So its not turbulent but it moves throughout.

Snprhed
05/09/2006, 02:59 PM
Will the maracyn be ok with the clams and such?

chad508
05/09/2006, 03:48 PM
i added erithomyacin to my tank and all the cyno went away and has yet to come back in over 2 months

it also did not hurt any corals clams are inverts

H2OLUVSME
05/09/2006, 04:17 PM
the chemical method may work, but i think you have way too little flow in the tank. youve only got about 170gph, and i dont ever count the skimmer pump, because its main purpose is feeding the skimmer, not moving water around. if you take it away you only have about 100gph which IMO is not enough for a 20.

out of curiousity, what kind of growth do you get out of your SPS with that flow?

Snprhed
05/09/2006, 10:30 PM
the growth is mediocre. its more of a holding tank than frag tank at this point. also with the clams in there I have to keep the flow relatively low

H2OLUVSME
05/10/2006, 07:13 AM
hmmm.......

Rpierce
05/10/2006, 12:51 PM
I agree with Landon- Cyano always seems to start growing where this is little to no flow. I had this problem, added more flow and a couple of good water changes. That took care of the problem. Are you worried that your SPS will not grow with alot of water flow? If so, why? I have never heard that.

Rick

chad508
05/10/2006, 05:02 PM
i don't believe flow always cures cyno. i had a spot in my tank that had tons of flow. so much that the sand constantly moving around would baring some of my corals , and it still got covered in cyno from time to time. i feel its more of the lighting and nutrients that is the main problem

phishguy05
05/10/2006, 05:56 PM
increase kh value i read that works also increase skimming maybe the use of some carbon at times and i have used the cyno killer or the chemical apprroach had good sucess with that anything that will incress redox potental good luck cory also more flow helps cause sometimes the algae cant adheare to the rocks or the sand