Purple Tang For Sale [Archive] - Reef Central Online Community Archives

Inigma

03/10/2005, 11:51 AM

Well, no one is forced to buy him. He's fat and happy where he is. I don't HAVE to sell him either. I would just rather not have him. I would be willing to entertain other offers though. Maybe a trade for some of that rare purple rock?;)

Just kidding about the rock. My point is that why should I lower my self to cater to others? If vendors think they can charge an arm and a leg for a large purple tang with questionable health, then I should at least be able to request a healthy price for a large healthy tang. I can understand why a lot of you wouldn't buy it because you have seen others sell for less. I know mine is healthy, and I have seen others for sell for higher. I hope you understand.

KC

Reefugee

03/10/2005, 12:17 PM

KC -

I don't think people are trying to personally attack you. People are just pointing out the fact that your prics is too high and that you may not be able to sell it at that price. I did some search on the net for prices of purple tang, and they range anywhere from$40 - $120. That doesn't mean that they sell for that price locally.

Just because one store sells it for that price, it doesn't mean that it's truly worth that much. When I first started, a Bay Area LFS was selling a stalk of xenia for $29. Fortunately, I got a few stock of xenias from James (Photon) for free. They have been doing great in my tank, and I have fragged quite a few of them for several people on this forum. But because they are healthy, it doesn't mean that I can sell mine for $25 because it's a known healthy specie.

At the same time, just because another store is selling the first for dirt cheap, it doesn't mean that the fish is worth that little as well. The quality of the fish store needs to be factored in when looking at prices.

If all things being equal, and I had a choice between a fish from a LFS or a known healthy fish from hobbiest's tank, I would buy the fish from a hobbiest. But if the price price from the hobbiest is significantly higher, I would have to weigh that in.

Minh

PS - I have some ultra rare green rock. Would you consider doing a trade? We would do an equal pound-for-pound trade. ;-)

Unarce

03/10/2005, 12:43 PM

If it's a healthy RED SEA Purple Tang, it's well worth the $100.

sagitariuscbc

03/10/2005, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by reefnutz
If it's a healthy RED SEA Purple Tang, it's well worth the $100.

sure is! great looking fish btw!
!~)

Jus Reefin

03/10/2005, 01:21 PM

KC, Is he in with LPS corals and SPS?

shilo_1

03/10/2005, 01:40 PM

My point exactly, Minh ! KC, I didn't mean to offend you, I was just stating what my experiences have been. I have always loved purple tangs, and was looking for one before my move from MO (when I had my 125g) - the average price in MO was $49. I've seen them in NJ for around $60 and here in CA for about the same. But like Minh said too...If I could choose between LFS and fellow reefer, I would pick the reefer too....provided the price wasn't double what I could get it for.

A lot of the time, ppl post on RC without doing some research first (not saying you never researched :) ) and usually it will encourage other reefers to chime in and let them know that their price may be a little high (the case here...but it is just our opinions too !) Or in some cases. "Wow - thats CHEAP !"

Anyhow, hopefully you find a great home for your PT, and I'm sure its well worth the price and is healthy as can be too. :)
They are such beautiful fish !

GreshamH

03/10/2005, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by reefnutz
If it's a healthy RED SEA Purple Tang, it's well worth the $100.

Damn straight, that fish has like $15 in freight alone ;) You know what it takes to get a fish to the west coast from the Red Sea? Let's just say there is no direct flight (lands in Germany IIRC for a transfer to the east coast, where it picks up yet another flight to the west). They used to be one of the super expsenive critters. It's a shame and down right disgusting that that animal being whored out for such a low price.

Unarce

03/10/2005, 02:12 PM

I believe that some less desirable Purple Tangs are coming in from the Indian Ocean (possibly the Arabian Sea) a lot more frequently. One LFS owner told me they've received huge shipments of PTs from Taiwan. They looked awful. This has really driven the price down. I had to special order mine from the Red Sea when it was a baby.

It was probably caught by one of yours or Steve's colleagues:)

thereefgeek

03/10/2005, 02:35 PM

Price is directly related to demand vs. availibility. Until someone decided Acanthastrea were the next "cool" coral to own, (no offense to those currently obssessed with their procurement) they were fairly cheap. I remember when Caulastrea were "rare", considered hard to maintain and way over priced as well.

Jus Reefin

03/10/2005, 02:41 PM

Of course I would be the one to Argue the Acan point. Before this "SO CALLED" fad you could not find any Acan's unless it was mis ID'd let alone a cheap one. If you did find one it was sold as a Brain and that's why it was so cheap. I do agree that the price is a reflection of the demand.

My feeling is if your not interested in buying it don't say anything. I thought it was over priced as well but didn't say anything.

I have wanted a purple Tang for the past 6 months but have been weary with al the LPS nipping Tangs that I read about here and on other BBS

Peace
Rob

shilo_1

03/10/2005, 03:14 PM

"My feeling is if your not interested in buying it don't say anything."

My apologies, Rob....I guess in future, I won't offer my 2 cents. ;)
Sorry if me making a comment about other prices I observed has offended anyone....not my intention....

Inigma

03/10/2005, 03:31 PM

I haven't tried to keep any SPS yet. He's in with a bunch of Zoanthids, two diferent color morphs of Hammer coral, Two different color morphs of Candy Cane coral, a handful of Ricordea, and a clam. I used to have an RBTA, but he never settled in after the move and met my power head. It was pretty sad and pretty gross.

I didn't mean to stir up such a topic and I understand I wasn't being attacked, I just felt the need to explain myself after some of the coments. And thank you to all of those who gave compliments about my fish.

All I tried to say was that I would let him go for $100. If no one wants to pay that much that is fine too, don't buy, if some one wants to make a decent offer I'll consider it. Maybe I should move this to the sell forum?

And yes I understand you can get one for less at an LFS most the time, and ussually it will be small and some times generally healthy. Or you could order one on-line for anbout $50-$70 and by the time you have it shipped to your house you have spent close to, if not a bit over, $100. And you still have to hope it arrived healthy and regrains it's strength.

You all make good points and yes it would be very nice of me to sell it for less (especially since all the debate of what is worth would discourage anyone from purchasing it at this point) and yes it would sell faster if I sold it for less, but I still feel it is a rare and healthy large red sea purple tang and it is worth approximately $100. Also I'm not in a hurry to sell him. I would be sad to find that I sold it to a person who had a bunch of money and wanted to stock his tank with a bunch of rare fish so that he too could be cool only to find that he wasn't ready for such fish because his tank hadn't yet cycled yet or any other reason one might think of.

wombat2

03/10/2005, 03:55 PM

I think a quarantined eating healthy fish is worth just about twice as much as one swimming around at a LFS. If I had the space I'd take it :D

ozmonster

03/10/2005, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by Jus Reefin

My feeling is if your not interested in buying it don't say anything. I thought it was over priced as well but didn't say anything.

Couldn't disagree more Rob. I can't let someone come into our forum and try to sell to our fellow members w/o throwing in my two cents. If I think something is way over price I'm going to say so. We are a community here and we need to watch each other's back.

In this case, the fish is not way overpriced and that why my fist post was posted as it was. Thought it was a little steep.

But let's talk about this some more. I'm of the opinion that private sales of livestock b/w MARS (ok we'll include BAR, CVR and NVR) members go out for a discounted price. That is the type of community I think we have and that is the type of community I want to maintain.

I sell frags (would much rather trade them) for $20 to $35 of regular old common species to John Q. Public. To MARS members who cannot trade and want to buy -->all frags are $10 to $15 (except collectable species). MARS members get the hook up. This discount has caused some people to join in the past and actually am meeting two people at the next meeting who are joining to get that discount. I'm not trying to toot my own horn but that is what I do and I encourage others to do so as well. I know many other members subscribe to this way of thinking ... Pam, Karl, James, Tim and many others give frags/livestock away for free even (there are many more but that's just off the top of my head).

Now Inigma --> none of this is directed towards you (so please don't take offense) because I don't think your trying to take advantage. And I can understand that you don't want to let it go for less and you're right noone has to buy it. However I did expect to see you selling that fish for around $40 or less to MARS members.

Rob

ozmonster

03/10/2005, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by Inigma
I would be sad to find that I sold it to a person who had a bunch of money and wanted to stock his tank with a bunch of rare fish so that he too could be cool only to find that he wasn't ready for such fish because his tank hadn't yet cycled yet or any other reason one might think of.

Me two but a price of $100 does not decrease the possibility of this happening.

Jus Reefin

03/10/2005, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by shilo_1
"My feeling is if your not interested in buying it don't say anything."

My apologies, Rob....I guess in future, I won't offer my 2 cents. ;)
Sorry if me making a comment about other prices I observed has offended anyone....not my intention....

No need to Apologize, we all have are own Opinions. I have learned the hard way to keep most of mine to myself here on RC. :) Had the comments regarding being over priced been made in the Sales forum most of these post would have been deleted by RC mods for not following RC rules. It's all good in DA Reef hood LOL ;)

KC, if I decide to get one and yours is still available I may take him off your hands.

Inigma

03/10/2005, 04:08 PM

I'm not at all offended. To each his/hers own. You're entitled to your opinion and no one can tell you that you are wrong for feeling the way you feel. And so everyone knows I have not been offended at all in this thread. No one has resorted to anme calling or anything like that. This is a forum that is open to discussion. That is why we are all here. So good luck to all and I'm going now to feed my fish for I am bored and am at home sick with the flu.

KC

Jus Reefin

03/10/2005, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by ozmonster

But let's talk about this some more. I'm of the opinion that private sales of livestock b/w MARS (ok we'll include BAR, CVR and NVR) members go out for a discounted price. That is the type of community I think we have and that is the type of community I want to maintain.

Rob

I agree with you 100% on this. I too sell my frags to club members ( be it MARS,BAR whoe ever) for far cheaper then I would list them for to the general public.

My feeling is price is all a matter of what some one is willing to pay. If some one wants to pay $500 for a $20 fish and they are happy so be it, to them it was not over priced. What I feel is over priced VS what someone else feels is over priced are 2 different things and I don't think it's right to make a post just to tell/ask someone that there price is too high. Like most things in this hobby it a matter of opinion.

I also feel that if someone buys something before researching cost,care, etc. that is there bad and there own responsibility and those people cannot be helped any way. Now let's get back to Reefing and let KC sell his fish :)

Reefugee

03/10/2005, 04:30 PM

Rob,

I agree with you. This is a club forum and we are constantly looking out for each others back. Sometimes the way we approach it may be taken wrong. (Hell, I have been guilty of that.) As a newbie, I really do appreciate when someone tells me whether something is a good deal or not.

Rob - thank you for all the stuff I have gotten from you. The hammer and torch I got from you would have cost me easily 2-3 times as much from any other LFS. There's a lot of stuff I have received from members of this board - including sand at a dirt cheap price, a bunch of frags, and numerous advices! \

BTW - I think because of this discussion, the fish is actually more likely to be sold. We all got a good education the varying price of purple tang. BTW - I don't remember reading if this guy is a Red Sea Purple Tang or not.

Minh

Originally posted by ozmonster
If I think something is way over price I'm going to say so. We are a community here and we need to watch each other's back.

<snip>

I sell frags (would much rather trade them) for $20 to $35 of regular old common species to John Q. Public. To MARS members who cannot trade and want to buy -->all frags are $10 to $15 (except collectable species). MARS members get the hook up. This discount has caused some people to join in the past and actually am meeting two people at the next meeting who are joining to get that discount. <snip>

Rob

thereefgeek

03/10/2005, 04:34 PM

I love controversial topics :D (and Jus Reefin's sig.)

Jus Reefin

03/10/2005, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by thereefgeek
I love controversial topics :D (and Jus Reefin's sig.)

I love my Sig. TOO :)

Were all individuals and that's what makes this hobby so great. People that are Nothing a like in life have something in common.......were all Reef nerds. I am one of the most opinionated people I have ever met :)

BTW, I hope no one was offended by my comments. That was not my intentions

Peace

Rob

ozmonster

03/10/2005, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by thereefgeek
I love controversial topics :D (and Jus Reefin's sig.)

hahaha. Me too. Get's the blood flowin';)

Yeah we all have opinions. I agree w/ Rob that he is the most opinionated.:) No, j/k, I am.;)

I think we shouldn't hold back though. I welcome people who disagree w/ me voice their opinion. It allows me to a chance to rethink my position and either change my mind (rarely;)) or reenforce my stance.

Rob, If you think I am full of sh!t, please tell me I'm full of sh!t (not about this but about anything). I may tell you to go jump in the lake but I would respect you for standing up. And don't ry to fool us, I have noticed you are rather free w/ your opinions.;)

Rob

Jus Reefin

03/10/2005, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by ozmonster
hahaha. Me too. Get's the blood flowin';)

Yeah we all have opinions. I agree w/ Rob that he is the most opinionated.:) No, j/k, I am.;)

I think we shouldn't hold back though. I welcome people who disagree w/ me voice their opinion. It allows me to a chance to rethink my position and either change my mind (rarely;)) or reenforce my stance.

Rob, If you think I am full of sh!t, please tell me I'm full of sh!t (not about this but about anything). I may tell you to go jump in the lake but I would respect you for standing up. And don't ry to fool us, I have noticed you are rather free w/ your opinions.;)

Rob

You got me rolling on the floor laughing. I too welcome the chance to rethink my opinion.( this hobby has helped me with that) Don't worry if I think you are full of it I will let you know..LOL HAHA Lord knows my Opinions have got me in hot water before and I am sure it will happen again. Now let's get KC's thread back on topic. Sorry for shredding your thread Bro!

thereefgeek

03/10/2005, 06:47 PM

Yep, no offense meant here either guys. I would personaly rather pay more for a healthy animal than a discount sickie. A wise man once said "The inconvenience of poor quality lasts far longer than the thrill of a bargain".;)

GreshamH

03/10/2005, 09:09 PM

Another said, "a bad/dead fish costs more then an alive fish" :D

If I had the tank space KC, I'd buy your PT in a heart beat. Nothing beats a healthy fish aquired from another hobbyist.

thereefgeek

03/10/2005, 09:12 PM

Speaking of healthy fish, how're those tomato clowns Rob?

Inigma

03/11/2005, 10:04 PM

LOL, this thread is trashed. There is no saving it.

ozmonster

03/11/2005, 10:33 PM

lol... sorry inigma. kind of my fault. if you post again, i promise to stay out of it ;)

Marc Daniels

03/12/2005, 02:23 AM

How big is the tang? It is Red Sea correct?

May have to find him/her a home in my new 300.

Large Red Sea Purple Tangs go for the vicinity of $100+. By large I mean in the 4"-6" range. I would have no problem paying this price for a fish with a known past, like the one KC is offering, but would have to think very hard about paying this price for a fish from a LFS. I would only pay this price if the LFS let me place a deposit and watch the fish for a period of time.

Marc

thereefgeek

03/12/2005, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by Inigma
LOL, this thread is trashed. There is no saving it.

Originally posted by Marc Daniels
How big is the tang? It is Red Sea correct?

May have to find him/her a home in my new 300.

Large Red Sea Purple Tangs go for the vicinity of $100+. By large I mean in the 4"-6" range. I would have no problem paying this price for a fish with a known past, like the one KC is offering, but would have to think very hard about paying this price for a fish from a LFS. I would only pay this price if the LFS let me place a deposit and watch the fish for a period of time.

Marc

There's still hope.;) Marc knows fish, and Gresham nailed it:

Originally posted by GreshamH
Another said, "a bad/dead fish costs more then an alive fish" :D