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Hobster
10/18/2004, 10:24 AM
Randy,

I came across this product in a catalog. A search from another thread states it is:


4-[P-(dimethylamino)-O-phenylbenzylidene]-2
5-cyclohexadien-1-xylidene dimethylammonium chloride
Dimethyl (2,2,2,Trichloro-1-Hydroxyethyl) Phosphonate
1,2,dimethyl-5-nitroimidazole

It states it can be used in marine tanks and controls planeria.
Does this look like something one would really want to put in a reef tank?

Any experience with this?

Randy Holmes-Farley
10/18/2004, 12:11 PM
There are, I believe, 3 different molecules there.

The first:
4-[P-(dimethylamino)-O-phenylbenzylidene]-2,5-cyclohexadien-1-xylidene dimethylammonium chloride

The second:
Dimethyl (2,2,2,Trichloro-1-Hydroxyethyl) Phosphonate

The third;
1,2,dimethyl-5-nitroimidazole


I wouldn't use it in a reef tank as it claims to kill a lot of things not all that dissimilar to inverts in reefs;

"Clout (Aquarium Products)
What it treats:
Ick
Hydra
Leeches
Planaria
Hexamita
Epistylis
Trichodina
Tetrahymena
Body Fungus
Fish Lice (Argulus)
Monodigenetic and Digenetic Flukes
Parasitic Copepods
Lernia (Anchor Worms) "

from:
http://world.std.com/~enjolras/faqmeds.htm

Boomer
10/18/2004, 12:47 PM
Let me fix this, there are four :D

4-[P-(dimethylamino)-O-phenylbenzylidene]-2

5-cyclohexadien-1-xylidene dimethylammonium chloride

Dimethyl (2,2,2,Trichloro-1-Hydroxyethyl) Phosphonate

1,2,dimethyl-5-nitroimidazole

One of these is a nerve agent, a cholinesterase inhibitor, Dimethyl (2,2,2,Trichloro-1-Hydroxyethyl) Phosphonate, which go by the names,Trichlorfon, Dylox, Metriphonate, Dyacide. They are organophosphates.

None of these should ever see a reef tank. Some are even dangerous to some species of fish.

Hobster
10/18/2004, 02:40 PM
Thanks Randy and Boomer, sounds like something that would be better used to spray my lawn with.:D

Randy Holmes-Farley
10/18/2004, 02:48 PM
Thanks Randy and Boomer, sounds like something that would be better used to spray my lawn with

Only while wearing a gas mask. :D

Habib
10/18/2004, 02:58 PM
Like Randy does. This pic is after dosing his 2-part supplement :lol:

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/3491HI-Spill3.jpg

Randy Holmes-Farley
10/18/2004, 03:23 PM
It is a little uncomfortable and tedious working on the tank that way, but better safe than sorry. :lol:

Habib
10/18/2004, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by Randy Holmes-Farley
It is a little uncomfortable and tedious working on the tank that way, but better safe than sorry. :lol:

That explains the last part of the following sentence:

These odors include the "ocean" smell that many people find pleasing, as well as the foul odors from dead corals and clams, or that some find in skimmate (mine always smells fine).

:D