R these compatible?what d u think?

[fish face 101]

:rolleye1: :rolleye1: :confused: Hi every one i have a few questions to ask u. i am setting up a 48 gallon reef aquarium previously featured in a mini poll over protein skimmers. i have all the technical equipment, protein skimmer, power heads, external canister filter etc. i will be using 2 day light flourecent tubes with 1 blue actinic tube. the wattage i do not know but you should be able to figure it out by my tank mesurements, 100cm+60cm+60cm. i have a list of fish and inverts aswell that i would like you to check over for me and tell me weather they would be compatible. i would also like a rough estimate on how much live rock i will be needing. here is my list thanks!!1:) :) :) :)

1+Sarcophyton Toadstool coral
1 or 2 sets of Red Mushrooms
1+Gold or yellow polyp
1+Capnella Kenya Tree Coral
1+Favia Brian Corals
1+Xenia Clavularia Species
1+Sinularia Finger large
1+anemone
3+percula clowns
1+gramma loreto
3+reef chromis
couple of cleaner shrimps

if i could add any more corals give us a couple of suggestions. thanks for all ure help!
:D :D

[h20cooled]

I would not put 3 clowns in the same tank, if you read about them they tend to pair up, so the odd one out is going to get picked on alot.

[fish face 101]

can any one else help me?

[nickb]

First, based on the measurements you give (100cmx60x60), I get a tank size of 99US Gallons, not 48G (40"x23"x23").

The usual recommendation for LR is 1-1.5 lb per US gallon (depending on the porosity of the rock).

The list of inhibitants seems generally OK. As noted, 3 clowns could be a problem although, if they are the same type and introduced at the same time as juveniles, I've seen people have success. You should get a-hold of Juyce Wilkerson's book on clown fish - it's got lots of useful information. You'd likely have space for additional fish, especially if the 100G size if right.

The anenome might be a problem. They usually don't do well in tanks and most require more intense lighting than you propose (i.e. metal halide lighting). Clowns don't need one either.

Sarcophyton release a wide range of toxins. Shouldn't affect you but they can damage other corals, especially hard corals. Borenman suggests caution in putting sarcophyton and hard corals in the same tank (although some people do this successfully). You might need to use activated carbon to remove the toxins. Also, according to Borneman's book on corals, some clowns adopt sarcophyton as a surrogate anenome. This could be bad for the coral.

Good luck.

[Steven Pro]

My math works out close to nickb, 95 US gallons or just a hair under 80 UK gallons.

Since you don't know the wattage or format of lighting you have, it is hard to say if that is enough. Although, if all you have is normal output fluorescents, you won't have enough light to sustain any of those corals. Three VHO's, though, would be adequate.

I would also wait on the anemone until you have a couple years of experience.

[fish face 101]

Thanks for your help! last time i checked the wattage was 75 uk watts or something like that?

[fish face 101]

o yea i am also using a sea clone skimmer, will this be ok?

[Steven Pro]

I would use a Seaclone on a tank that large. Actually, I am not a fan of using them at all.

[nickb]

Do you mean you would NOT use one?

[fish face 101]

yes, and if not what about the larger model?

[fish face 101]

and also i have been looking and the mesurements of my tank are 100 cm+60cm+60cm, r u sure the total water capacity is that large?

[nickb]

The formula for volume (in US gallons) is: h*w*l/231 all measured in inches. 100cm is about 40"; 60 cm is about 24". Hence, we get:

40*24*24/231 = 99.7

The 40" distance (side to side) is unusual but may reflect a metric size tank (1 m).

[Steven Pro]

Originally posted by nickb
Do you mean you would NOT use one?

Yeah, that is what I meant.

[Steven Pro]

Originally posted by nickb
The formula for volume (in US gallons) is: h*w*l/231 all measured in inches. 100cm is about 40"; 60 cm is about 24". Hence, we get:

40*24*24/231 = 99.7

The 40" distance (side to side) is unusual but may reflect a metric size tank (1 m).

I did my math a little different. From the formula you stated, there are 231 cubic inches to a US gallon. Also, every cubic centimeter is 0.061 cubic inches. So, 100 x 60 x 60 is 360,000 cubic centimeters, multiplied by 0.061 gives you 21,960 cubic inches, divided by 231 gives you 95 US gallons.

[nickb]

That's more accurate. I used 2.5cm=1" rather than 2.54cm=1" :-)

I get 95.1G with the more precise conversion.

[keyta]

I had a Seaclone 150 for about 3 weeks when we first set up. It's one of those things that LFS carries and when they say you need a skimmer you just grab one. I bought an Aqua C Urchin Pro, it's in sump so you have less stuff hanging on the back of the tank. There's no foam filter to rinse or knobs to adjust. Literally, just stick it in and plug it in! You dump and rinse a cup every 2 or 3 days. Some people love their Euroreef skimmers but I didn't want to spend $350 for a skimmer. My Aqua C was $200 and that's enough for me right now. Maybe when I get more experienced, I'll see the reason for a more expensive skimmer. Mine does seem to pull out alot of crud. The Seaclone took a week to make as much as my Aqua C makes in a day.

Good luck.

[fish face 101]

well, would an external home made skimmer do? if so how big would you make the reaction chamber?

[fish face 101]

Sorry guys big mistake!!!!!!!! my tank is 100cm+40cm+40cm! sorry! how many gallons would it be now?:lol:

[MNgirl]

nickb....
how do you find out info about coral warfare??
I have never heard of this and I am really interested. I just figured you could place any softies, LPS, or SPS in a tank if you had the right lighting and water flow....I never imagined that you could not mix certain ones. I don't plan on having many corals but it would be interesting to know info like this, just in case :)
Thanks much!!

[nickb]

Same formula: 100*40*40/(2.54*2.54*2.54*231) = 42G

As for coral 'warfare'. I'm taken my stuff from Borneman's book and from web site like this one.