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stang8s
02/24/2004, 10:53 PM
Looking for someone to build me something like this... This one is 36'x36' I may want to go bigger like 36'x46'. Taking bids on the job..

http://www.abbarns.com/images/Garage-Dunbarton-NHWEB.jpg

Montec24
02/25/2004, 06:17 AM
Just built something simular. 60'x30' (one room) you have probably seen it since you live in Harvard

stang8s
02/25/2004, 07:12 AM
Sounds like want i want. Where abouts in harvard? Can you give me an idea on price?

Groove
02/25/2004, 07:26 AM
I'm jealous! 60'x30'??? I could pull my house in there to work on it! :D

Scuba_Dave
02/25/2004, 07:42 AM
I'm in the process of adding to my house. A 25' x 36' (900')garage w/same size room over it, then a 600' room over that. I'm doing a lot of the work myself.
Also adding a 15 x 15 sunroom off the kitchen on the back of the house. Enclosing 6' x 10' patio on the front. And dormering the back of the house (Cape). I'm going to be very busy.

RobboT
02/25/2004, 08:45 AM
Jeff, get in touch with tstone.

stang8s
02/25/2004, 09:39 AM
robboT i have , I guess he isnt into that stuff anymore?

Montec24
02/25/2004, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by stang8s
Sounds like want i want. Where abouts in harvard? Can you give me an idea on price?

You can't miss me, right on Ayer Road. I am the one that has been there for three years. Can't wait to get out of there, the guy keeps changing things and adding things, no plans just" Hey build this" Driving me up a wall.

Price? More than you think!!

I am booked for the next year and a half, I have quite the backlog of old customers after working for just this guy for three years. If you are really interested I could meet with you and give you ideas of cost etc and maybe some referalls to other contractors.

Dana

stang8s
02/25/2004, 07:00 PM
This the place on rt 111 where they moved the old barn to a new foundation and then built a new building where the old one was. Then built a garage on to the old barn, then a fence that looks like it costs more then my house?

Montec24
02/25/2004, 07:03 PM
That's me!! I did all that, there is actually more going on there than meets the eye, like the full basement under the garage, and the office over the garage and the full commercial kitchen and............ the list goes on. Getting down there though, two or three more months. Untill he changes his mind again!!!!

Montec24
02/25/2004, 07:04 PM
Oh yeah, I 'll bet the fence did cost more than your house!!! You should see the inside of the new building, all timber framed, pretty cool. Got some 14X 30 beams in there.

stang8s
02/25/2004, 07:17 PM
wow guy must have millions. He just bought that too. Well im not looking for anything that fancy. Just like what i showed above perhaps longer. More like 36x50 or so.. If you want to give me a quote or a referal to someone else who can do that type of work that would be great.

So did you talk the guy into a reef tank yet? with that kind of $$ he could have a nice one!

stang8s
02/25/2004, 07:19 PM
oh yea i bet you drive by my house at least twice a day.. Im near 495 or rt 111. near westward orchards

Montec24
02/25/2004, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by stang8s
oh yea i bet you drive by my house at least twice a day.. Im near 495 or rt 111. near westward orchards

I don't actually go that way to often, usually right onto rte 2 . I should stop bye and see your tanks some day. If you wan't to see what's going on at the "Farm" let me know I will show you around.

stang8s
02/25/2004, 07:31 PM
big YES for both of those things. I work from home so im around most days.

Scuba_Dave
02/25/2004, 07:42 PM
Montec24, I''m adding on a 25' wide x 36 long garage. I want the beams to span the entire 25' (and be able to support a 180g tank or larger). Any idea if I can do this with wood? Or steel beams needed?
IE x support beams across, then a 2x12 floor on top of support beams? I'm looking at I beams, Open joist 2000, Tru Joist etc
Thanx

Montec24
02/25/2004, 08:43 PM
If the floor joists are going over a beam then the span of the joists are 12 1\2' correct? This is fine for 12" joists. The beam under the joists would then be 36 ' long, this is a long span to do out of either wood or steel without at least one and probably two supports in the span. As far as using wood or steel you can do just about anything with big enough wood and LVL's etc but I have always liked steel, not really that expensive and sometimes easier than wood. You would still need to have all this enginered. With the tank you may want to put the joists at 12" OC. Comparitively speaking the joists are pretty cheap compared to worrying about it later.

Scuba_Dave
02/25/2004, 08:54 PM
Actually I want to span the 25" with 2-3 beams (every 12' or so), then build a floor the 36' length on top of the 25' beams.
This way the 2x12's would only be spanning 12'
I'd rather overbuild it & not worry about it

Montec24
02/25/2004, 09:31 PM
Just did that in Harvard, used steel beams that were "flush framed" so they don't stick down below the ceiling. It was actually a 30' span for the beams and 36' for the joists (3- 12' sections) The beams were supported at mid span. I forget exactly what size beams they were but I know they were 12" tall because I used 2 by 12 joists. You could probably do it without supporting the beams but would need some big a$$ peices of steel. 25' span supporting a lot of floor, plus the tank (or tanks cause you won't stop at 1) If you don't have an architect you can usually get an engineer to size and stamp things for you if you do some drawings.

Scuba_Dave
02/25/2004, 09:36 PM
Thanx, I am planning on running this by a structural engineer. The extra cost of "Better" material is a lot cheaper then having it collapse & having to rebuild :)
I always try to go a size larger then code. Walls will be 2x6, rafters in dormer will be 2x10 (more insulation) instead of the existing 2x6's in the old roof