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joefitz
02/03/2004, 12:28 AM
Ok. Well, I'm still not done but at least I feel I've made a little bit of progress and with the encouragement of Karl Wagner and Scott Merrill I've taken a few snaps of my new setup...

FYI, the tank is 72" long by 36" wide by 30" deep.

Please ignore the mess in the background -- I still haven't completely recovered from the superbowl party yet.

First, a diagonal shot of the tank:

<img src="http://216.235.242.49/sump/diag_low.jpg">

A few comments about the above pic...you'll notice some pvc in the tank above the sand line. Some of that is 1.5 flex-pvc which is going to be used for returns into the tank, hidden in the rockwork. The rest is a rock support framework made up of 3/4" pvc resting on 4" PVC that is placed on the bottom of the tank. I didn't have the forsite to put sand/water in the 3/4" pvc pipe though so it is currently floating in the tank. Eventually this will be hidden just below the sandline.

You can make out the EuroReef CS12-2 underneath in the sump. An MTC ProCal calcium reactor is at the far end of the tank, eventually this will be placed under the stand. In the bottom left of the pic you'll see the edges of the canopy I built.

A side pic:

<img src="http://216.235.242.49/sump/side1_low.jpg">

This shows another angle of the pvc...and you can also see the end of the overflow compartment which runs across the entire width of the tank against the wall. An empty bag of southdown is floating at the top of the tank (it is just about full of RODI).

<img src="http://216.235.242.49/sump/overflow_low.jpg">

A closer look at the overflow compartment. Not a good pic. There are two 2" drains and three 1.5" drains (well, one is a return in all likelihood a 2nd will be used as a return as well). You can make out the manifold at the top which takes the 1.5" return and splits it to eight 3/4" hose barb connections. I'm not sure that I'll use it but I figured I'd give it a shot.

There are four 3/4" bulkheads in the overflow wall -- two toward the bottom of the tank and two toward the top. You can make out the loc-line poking out of the sand on the left side of the overflow wall -- that is attached to one of the bottom 3/4" bulkheads. All four of these will be used to return water into the tank and may or may not be connected to SCWDs or other wavemaking devices.

<img src="http://216.235.242.49/sump/drains_low.jpg">

This is a shot of the area under the overflow compartment. All of this plumbing is flex pvc. The outermost pipes are the two 2" drains. The 2nd in from the left is the existing return, which is coming from an Ampmaster 3000. It is teed off back to the sump so I can dial the flow back if necessary. The two pipes next to this are the other two 1.5" drains. One will most likely be converted into a 2nd return (another Ampmaster 3000).

<img src="http://216.235.242.49/sump/loop_low.jpg">

This pic shows the two 1.5" lines going into the main portion of the tank. I am still not 100% sure how or if I will use these. I want to try to use them as returns from a surge system I am building but we'll see. They are currently capped but can be easily re-plumbed without having to do any real work...once I've decided to use them the pipe in the display tank will be hidden in the rockwork.

<img src="http://216.235.242.49/sump/sump_low.jpg">

Here is a pic of the sump. Not really much to look at...the Euro-reef skimmer dominates the left side of the sump. Water then passes through a few baffles and then is returned to the tank. The sump has a total of six 2" bulkheads, only one of which is really currently in use.

You can also see some of the plumbing connected to the returns to the main tank I mentioned above...the flex pipe connects to a union and then a ball valve. The in-tank plumbing is pipe similar, pipe connected to a union which is capped. So, when I decide to use those returns I can just glue whatever I need to half of a union and then swap that with the union that is capped in the tank...

The sump holds the heaters, pumps for the skimmer and eventually the aquacontroller probes.

<img src="http://216.235.242.49/sump/end_low.jpg">

A picture of the end of the tank.

<img src="http://216.235.242.49/sump/canopy_low.jpg">

I built the canopy to hold three Diamond Lumenarc reflectors which will each house a 400W MH bulb. Karl and Scott have convinced me to add VHO to the mix, which wasn't hard to do as I definitely like the look VHO adds (I just wasn't sure I could fit it all).

If you look at the power cord coming out of the middle reflector you'll notice a pulley on the canopy. There are four pulleys which attach to a mount on the ceiling allowing me to raise and lower the canopy. I also needed to be able to have convenient access to both sides of the tank (you really can't reach from one side to the other, at least not at any depth), so I mounted the pulley mount onto rails which allow me to slide the entire canopy (when raised) two feet in either direction -- who knows if it works but I thought it was a neat idea. Here is a shot of the mounting system:

<img src="http://216.235.242.49/sump/canopymount_low.jpg">

I plan on using my aquacontroller to turn various lights on and off over the course of the day so I will probably only have at most two of the MH bulbs on at any time.

And that about does it for now. I finally get to mix the salt in tomorrow...

Lots of work left to be done though. Karl and Scott were convincing me (successfully) to transform my current ~100g tank into a refugium for the system. I need to re-build a stand for that so that it can also support a tank above that for my surge system.

Joe

ScavDog
02/03/2004, 12:56 AM
Very nice Joe! Bravo! Keep us posted!

denvig
02/03/2004, 01:29 AM
WOW!!! Looking good, quite the undertaking, I can’t wait to see the finished product.

Marco67
02/03/2004, 06:53 AM
Hey Joe, Looks good
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seasno
02/03/2004, 07:32 AM
Great Job Joe! Keep up the good work....but more importantly keep us posted on it too!

Scuba_Dave
02/03/2004, 07:38 AM
Nice job, I've been waiting for pics of your tank. I drilled the pvc I used for rock support. I figured it would be a good place for pods to hide. I used small 1/8" holes, didn't want any large bristle worm monsters growing in the pipes.
It will be nice to see your tank setup

Groove
02/03/2004, 08:12 AM
I was wondering when we might see your setup! Looks good. I think you need another picture though. Have someone stand next to the tank or put some point of reference. Since your skimmer is huge and the tank is huge, everything looks small. If I didn't know better I'd say that's a nice 75 gallon system you got there. :D

I like your idea with staggering the lights. It should give the effect of the sun moving across the sky.

Keep up the good work!

amixam98
02/03/2004, 08:53 AM
I was lucky enough to see this in person yesterday. :eek1: :eek2: Thanks again for everything yesterday Joe. Everything looks good so far. :thumbsup:

joefitz
02/03/2004, 09:02 AM
I'll work on more pics -- I knew I didn't have one with a good reference in but I had run out of battery before I could do anything about. The funny thing is that this tank takes up about half of my apartment...it is a monster. :-)

Marco, I've been told by many that I need to see your tank -- I'm looking for good aquascaping ideas. Any chance I could come by and check out your setup sometime?

Groove, staggering the lights wasn't my idea, that was Karl's (I think -- Karl and Scott had a bunch of good suggestions and I'm not sure who said which). I had been considering taking one of the reflectors out and just using two (mostly because I'm not sure I really have the power/electrical capacity to run all three) but then he mentioned the staggering idea and I really liked it.

I'm may also motorize the canopy so that I can have my aquacontroller raise and lower it over the course of a day but that is definitely a back burner project. Probably several months down the road, if it ever happens. I need to finish the stand first. And set up the refugium. And the surges. And... :-)

Thanks for everyone's kudos. It has taken me so long to get this thing going I never thought it would happen. Mixing the water today is going to feel like, well, winning the superbowl! Ok, maybe not quite but...

Joe

Armando
02/03/2004, 09:02 AM
Amazing! Congrats!

Sea Serpent
02/03/2004, 09:08 AM
Wow, unbelievable . . .:eek2: :D :eek1: Your patience and persistance has paid off. This will be absolutely gorgeous. My imagination is brimming with ways to use that 36" width!!

I love how you have left all your options open for possible changes - very verastile. Do you mind if I steal a few of your ideas?

Great job with the planning . . . Scott and Karl wont steer you wrong!!

wrassefan
02/03/2004, 01:15 PM
WOW!!!!!! That thing is HUGE!!! Can you claim it as a dependent when it's up and running and fully stocked?? WOW!!!!

spyro
02/03/2004, 04:20 PM
I would skip the VHOs....MH are the best bet and you can get away with ALL MH if you use 10,000k or 20,000 k bulbs.
This is especially true if your tank is greater than 30" deep !!!
VHOs are typically 20% efficient while MH are around 50% so going with VHO's will cost you more in electrical costs than MH.

Looks great so far !

matt-davis sq.
02/03/2004, 04:25 PM
Where did you buy the flex PVC? I've heard about it, but never seen a picture of it before,

Matt:cool:

joefitz
02/03/2004, 04:37 PM
You can get the flexible pvc from Lowes. Some Home Depot's carry it too. Local plumbing supply stores may carry it as well. It is generally called spa-flex. If you buy it, you'll probably want to purchase a decent heat gun as well because the hose isn't very flexible at normal temperatures. It is great stuff. It supposedly also is much better at absorbing sound although I can't confirm that just yet.

BTW, I have extra plumbing fittings including (1.5" and 2" -- tees, unions...) as well as flex pvc (1.5" and 2") so if anyone needs it I could probably sell some to you.

I plan on seeing what the MH look like before I add any VHO but I definitely like the look of actinic bulbs on a tank. Right now I have two 400W 10k bulbs plus two 110W VHO actinics and I think that looks pretty good. The MH washes out the actinics during the day but the actinics are on for an hour or two before and after the MH which is nice.

We'll see. I'm trying some Hamilton 14k bulbs this time around to see what those look like.

Joe

yaktop
02/03/2004, 07:24 PM
Im jealous. nice project.

saltyseaman
02/08/2004, 10:01 PM
That's AWESOME!!! VERY nice.

You got a PM :D

JellyTheory
03/03/2004, 06:45 PM
Any new pictures? :)

-Chris

tedh
03/03/2004, 09:22 PM
Will be fun watching this one grow!! Congrats!!

mikrok
03/03/2004, 10:25 PM
Nice, Joe! so beside the controller, you pretty much have all the equipment already?

joefitz
03/04/2004, 12:37 AM
I'm hoping to have a new set of pictures soon. I've almost completed the canopy assembly (revision 1.1 anyway) -- there were a few engineering oversights that made me change my plans but I've got everything working pretty well now. It still needs a lot of work but it is at least functional now.

In terms of equipment, I pretty much have everything I need. I still have to figure out what I'm going to do for a surge system. I may replace my hand winch with an electric winch, but I doubt it. There aren't many things in terms of equipment that I think I need at this point.

I am still in the process of getting more rock and haven't really aquascaped anything -- I just threw in everything from my old tank and another 60 lbs of rock...I figured I would wait until I have more rock and get my first real aquascaping session in.

The tank is working pretty well so far. There really wasn't much/any of a cycle and the only thing I lost in the move was a very small brain that I think ended up in an area that received too much flow; everything else is doing fine.

I still haven't connected the calcium reactor or the new 100g refugium but that should happen soon. So much left to do...dursos or some form of silencing device is getting higher and higher on my list! :-)

I've been focusing on putting together a stocking list. It has been very difficult to make final decisions and I keep changing my mind. I've been able to resist all my urges to buy things for the tank so far. I went to House of Fins today and saw all sorts of nice things. :-) The sohal tangs were really calling out to me but I'm concerned about their attitude. We'll see. Hopefully I'll be ready to start stocking in a month or so.

Joe

gwrulzmylife
03/27/2004, 12:32 AM
Let's see an update on those pics! Fabulous idea on the pulley system!

Anthias School?

Think of making your own LR?

joefitz
03/27/2004, 01:12 AM
I've been working on my micro-bubble and algea problems. My newest additions are helping take care of the algea: a yellow tang, powder blue tang, and a sea hare. I still have a pretty big micro-bubble problem, but the new baffles I installed definitely helped. I think I'll be able to kick it once and for all with my last batch of baffling and/or micron filter socks.

A week ago my sump started leaking so that was a little bit of a setback...not too big a deal actually, but nerve wracking nonetheless.

I plan on making a final live rock run over the next two weeks. Once I get that rock I'll be forced to make a lot of headway in the tank quickly. I need to add a bit more sand (to hide some plumbing and even out the bed), finalize the return plumbing, attach the calc and nilsen reactors... That will all happen in the next two weeks because I am going to be putting a bunch of frags in the system soon.

Anthias, anthias...yes, I really wanted to have a school of small fish in the tank and anthias were at the top of my list. After seeing some Lyretails though, I'm having second thoughts because most anthias get pretty big (4-5"), even for my tank. A school of 8-10 of them is an awful lot of fish. Smaller anthias generally don't have great reputations for hardiness. Flasher wrasses are another possibility. I really don't know what I'm going to do at this point.

Anyway, new pics in 2 weeks. Hopefully they'll show my 'final' aquascaping and initial placement of a handful of frags/clams.

Dubge
03/27/2004, 06:47 AM
Hey Joe I was just wondering where you are getting your rock from? What is the total amount you plan on having as far as pounds? If you are getting it all from the same place they must love you there!!! :)

Ray

joefitz
03/27/2004, 09:20 AM
I've bought my rock all over the place. When I started my 100g, I ordered all my rock from Tampa Bay Saltwater. I picked up more from a few reefers breaking down tanks and recently I've bought some more from Skiptons (the closest place to me). The next batch is most likely going to come from House of Fins because the owner is giving me a really good deal. If I still need more after that I will probably end up getting it from Skiptons because of convenience but we'll see.

I was really, really, really hoping to get established rock from existing tanks but everyone seems to beat me to the punch on tanks being broken down. :-(

I think most of the stores hate me because they inevitably find out I have a big tank and I've been very good about not buying anything so far. :-) I feel particularly badly about AA because I've been up there a few times and either they didn't have anything I was looking for or I wasn't really prepared to buy it. One of these days...

Joe

A Reef Scene
07/04/2004, 09:15 AM
Great looking system

seasno
07/04/2004, 12:14 PM
Hey Joe:

Seeing this thread is revived....how about a few updated pics?

joefitz
07/04/2004, 12:21 PM
It is funny you ask...I just "finished" re-aquascaping the tank and am taking pictures as we speak. I'm pick about photos so it may take me a while to be satisfied with some pics but hopefully I'll have some in the next day or two.

joefitz
07/05/2004, 10:25 AM
Well, these aren't great pics but people keep asking for more photos so here goes... I just re-aquascaped the tank (really for the first time) and I snapped these photos just to show a bit of the rockwork.

Well, I don't feel like going through the trouble of posting all these pics again (I did it on the BRS forum first)...so, if you're interested in looking at them then follow this link to the BRS forum website:

http://216.235.242.50/forums/showthread.php?t=1347

z_rivers
07/25/2004, 12:03 AM
looks awesome. cant wait to see some more pics.