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justletmein
12/18/2003, 12:42 PM
Real Time - Web Based - Massive Multiplayer Free Online Strategy Game (http://www.astrowars.com/register/?r=27034)

http://www.omegarising.com/images/banners/astrowars.gif

No, I'm not associated with them, but I am playing the game.

justletmein
12/19/2003, 02:27 AM
Hundreds of players are in. Game is taking off a little slow, but as it builds steam is getting much faster. This will certainly keep you busy all night if you're up...

srit1
12/19/2003, 09:43 AM
Whats the premise of the game?
totally free?

justletmein
12/19/2003, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by srit1
Whats the premise of the game?
totally free?

The stratagy is to build up your planets and take over others. It's a little slow the first day, but I'm glued to the computer here on day 2, lots of stuff to do!

Yeah, totally free. It's in Beta 4, but will probably go commercial in a few releases. Check it out, it's a great timekiller at work! :D

cyclist1
12/19/2003, 06:42 PM
I just joined and agree that it is very slow at first. I tend to have a lot of time at work, so maybe this will give me something else to do to pass the time.

justletmein
12/19/2003, 10:15 PM
It starts to speed up on day 2 and 3. I almost didn't get any work done today ;)

srit1
12/21/2003, 11:13 PM
can you explain the population part of it to me? My Social Science is 3 but my population is only 2... why doesnt it go up to 6?

justletmein
12/21/2003, 11:30 PM
Social Science bumps up your Maximum population limit. If you want to increase population faster bump your levels up in Hydroponics first and that'll give you more +'s toward your population. Best thing to do is bump the Robotics Factory up a bunch of levels first, and that'll give you more Production Points per hours to build other stuff.

srit1
12/22/2003, 12:06 AM
awesome! thanks

Runner
12/22/2003, 10:32 AM
For those who are interested in turn-based space conquest games, go check out StarCon:

http://www.strategyguild.com/

It has just been developed over the last year and just got its (hopefully) final tweeks. They said they might start charging $5 per month sometime in the future, but so far the turns are free for as many games as you wish to join.

You make one move every 2 weeks (typically). Turns are received in text and XML formats. Some players have made mapping and turn-sheet generation software that is in beta and is free for the moment, anyway.

I'd love to see fresh players in the game pool. Come by and take a look.

srit1
12/23/2003, 12:29 PM
justlet,
why didnt you put the refer a friend link here instead of the straight up link?

also IT TAKES forever to upgrade culture - im all ready to take my first free planet and i cant go yet due to culture restraints

Perez14
12/23/2003, 03:52 PM
good game. maybe all the RC people should form an alliance.

srit1
12/23/2003, 04:27 PM
no doubt we should

but what are the chances that we are near eachother

Perez14
12/24/2003, 01:11 PM
srit- try increasing your galactic cybernets. i've been in it for almost 3 days now and im almost ready to go just a couple more days. i should be able to go once i get back.

srit1
12/25/2003, 01:32 AM
yeah i know.. it just takes forever - im up to 2 now and will have mysecond planet in 6 hours =) already sent the fleet

this IS fun

justletmein
12/25/2003, 04:35 PM
Stephen, I did put the referal link up. It doesn't give you much of a culture boost anyway, but every little bit counts. I finally got my second planet up and running well and about to take over my third. Too bad the SU's aren't worth anything right now, I'm sitting on two of them that I don't want to sell because the price will start going back up again.

I'm all for an RC alliance! That would be sweet! How many players do we have here?

dodofish
12/26/2003, 12:04 PM
I started a couple of days ago. Any hints or tips to get off to a good start?

justletmein
12/26/2003, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by dodofish
I started a couple of days ago. Any hints or tips to get off to a good start?

Well, I just started this round also. I can tell you to start off by bumping your Robotics Factory & Farms up to about level 6 before messing with anything else. Your Culture level will hold you back when ready to expand, so start up a Galactic Cybernet asap. Also, change that research off of the default Biology and put it to Social for now to have a higher population cap. You won't need Biology until later when you go to take over other star systems.

Got any questions please ask, we can get a little strategy discussion going on here ;)

What levels are you guys up to? I'm level three so far, got three planets that are starting to speed things up quite a bit. Working on my level 4 culture so I can take over planet #4, which I currently have under seige.

dodofish
12/26/2003, 12:14 PM
Here are my levels.
population 3
farm 1
Robotic 3
cybernet 7
research lab 0
starbase 2

Science
biology 6
Culture 1

I change my science to social.

So you think I should spend all my PP on robotic and farms for now?

justletmein
12/26/2003, 12:26 PM
Yeah, I'd bump Robotics & Farms up to about 6, then start spending elsewhere. They are your PP producers so you want to get them up so you can spend more dough on stuff later on. With that high cybernet you'll be able to start another planet pretty quick, so that will work to your advantage. Things start to take off when you have multiple planets contributing.

dodofish
12/26/2003, 12:33 PM
Thanks that makes sense. Is there a setting that will automatically spend the PP into category that you select so that you can build faster?

justletmein
12/26/2003, 12:35 PM
I wish there was, but unfortunately no. I can tell you there's no advantage to spending a point at a time, wait until they accumulate enough to give you a full upgrade and then spend them. This will also allow you to have them in reserve to upgrade a SB or something in case of an attack.

Cuervo
12/26/2003, 12:37 PM
My main planet is pop 10, hydro 8, robo lab 10
second planet is pop 6, hydro 7, robo 7

Culture will be hitting 3 in just a few hours, and my fleet should be arriving at my new planet just a hair before that.

I'm all for an alliance!

This is a fun game.. a little slow for the first couple days, but after that, it's ON!!

Joe

justletmein
12/26/2003, 12:42 PM
Hey Joe, what's your coordinance? I'm at 42/-1. Anyone else nearby?

DragonFish
12/26/2003, 02:28 PM
I couldn't live with myself if I didn't post www.gunbound.net simply the best free online game I've ever played. Totally addictive.

justletmein
12/26/2003, 02:38 PM
DragonFish, I tried to check it out but it's being blocked by our filtering software :(

DragonFish
12/26/2003, 02:42 PM
Lame... a must play

justletmein
12/26/2003, 02:49 PM
I'll give it a shot when I get home. I really enjoy this astrowars though because I can hit it from work.

Anybody looking for some additional AstroWars answers can get a menu here (http://www.astrowars.com/about/).

Perez14
12/27/2003, 10:59 AM
planet 1
pop-8
farms-6
factory-7
cybernet-7
lab-6
base-7

Planet 2 (just started it this morning)
pop-1
factory-1
everything else is 0

science
bio-7
eco-6
NRG-7
Math-6
Physics-6
Social-7
Culture-2

srit1
12/27/2003, 12:22 PM
i count 4players here...
srit1 (me) - and that my ID on astrowars
perez
justletmein
dragonfish

sorry i have a badmemory - was there another

srit1
12/27/2003, 12:23 PM
6 - cyclist and dodofish as well

srit1
12/27/2003, 12:24 PM
are yah all using the same usernames as here?

srit1
12/27/2003, 12:39 PM
is there anyway to learn the size of an opponents fleet at a given planet?

if i send 1 detroyer to attack it - would that reveal such information?

Perez14
12/27/2003, 07:52 PM
im using Gaunt as my name.

wdt2000
12/28/2003, 06:41 AM
This game is great!!!

justletmein
12/29/2003, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by srit1
is there anyway to learn the size of an opponents fleet at a given planet?

if i send 1 detroyer to attack it - would that reveal such information?

Not that I know of. If you send that 1 destroyer you'll get a message stating what percentage of the fleet you destroyed, but that's about it. A defensive player is far better off upgrading his starbase for defense, so if you hit a lot of ships he's probably building an attack fleet.

cyclist1
12/29/2003, 06:26 PM
My username on the game is Cyclingman78.

Andrew

cyclist1
12/29/2003, 06:51 PM
Location: -32/45

Planet 1:
Population 10
Hydroponic Farm 11
Robotic Factory 10
Galactic Cybernet 10
Research Lab 10
Starbase 9

Planet 2:
Population 5
Hydroponic Farm 5
Robotic Factory 3
Galactic Cybernet 2
Research Lab 4
Starbase 4

Science:
Biology 8
Economy 9
Energy 10
Mathematics 9
Physics 10
Social 11
Culture 3

srit1
12/30/2003, 01:05 PM
ok - so I am dominant in my system - 3 planets - soon to be a fourth... first 3 are all highest pops, higheststarbase etc.... but what scares me is that there is another player who has a high pop but shows no other signs of anything... im thinking there is a huge fleet there.... i think i'll just sum up my fleets to the closest planet and send 100 destoyers her way.. that should work right?

justletmein
12/30/2003, 01:15 PM
That ought to work. They're probably just bumping up the factory and such instead of spending on starbase etc. You may have a landslide victory, but it's better to be safe ;)

Runner
12/30/2003, 02:09 PM
I just signed up and was given a planet. It seems I share a system with one other newbie and four empty planets. I am still trying to figure out the rules and see what I should do. Thus far, I have placed my points in farms.

Am I in the same game/galaxy with you guys? If so, I'd be happy to join the Reefer Alliance -- if ya'll will still have me. :D My coordinates are 53/2. My AstroWars name is "Runner", of course.

ijneb
12/30/2003, 02:28 PM
Im "ijneb"
Planets at Alpha Azmidiske (-17/-53)

Aneille
12/30/2003, 03:02 PM
I just joined. I am Zenovia.

Probably wont have time to figure it all out to later tonight though.

Aneille
12/30/2003, 03:06 PM
Runner you are in the same system as me.

Runner
12/30/2003, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by Aneille
Runner you are in the same system as me. Heh. There have been two players added to our system since I started (including you). Looks like we are in the newbie sector. I reckon we could gang up on one of the other two. :)

justletmein
12/30/2003, 06:59 PM
You new guys are in the same game, but are placed around the edges so that you don't get wiped out by the experienced players. It's great that you guys are in the same system, I've seen first hand how powerful it is in this game to have an ally nearby.

srit1
12/30/2003, 07:14 PM
i am not near anyone I recognize from here - however i did see your post justletmein about leaving for a few days... i was worried about 18 hours the other day when i couldnt check =)

Aneille
12/30/2003, 10:15 PM
I don't really know what I am doing but I am slowly getting addicted. I just sit here waiting and waiting for more PPs...

NewMariner
12/30/2003, 10:21 PM
LOL I have joined as well......Im MercifulOne...

Im on Alpha Arrakis 24,28

justletmein
12/31/2003, 12:42 AM
If you guys get attacked post here. I'm beginning to know a bunch of experienced players and they can help out in a pinch.

sammystingray
12/31/2003, 01:53 AM
Just joined in, and I have no idea what I'm doing?!??!!:eek2:

I feel so helpless like anyone who even sees me can just walk in and take my planet. Do I have to wait for PPs to build up to 150 before I can do anything? How do I make changes to my planet?

sammystingray
12/31/2003, 01:58 AM
Alright.....figured that out.:D

Coral Dilema
12/31/2003, 03:28 AM
Jeez, and I thought my 100 sided dungeons and dragons die was cool.

Coral Dilema
12/31/2003, 05:52 AM
Im playing, just started 10 minutes ago, im on Alpha Baham 7, name is Omen

Runner
12/31/2003, 09:14 AM
After almost one day of play, I have the following stats:

Population 2
Hydroponic Farm 2
Robotic Factory 1
Galactic Cybernet 0
Research Lab 1
Starbase 2

Biology 2
Economy 0
Energy 0
Mathematics 0
Physics 0
Social 0
Culture 1

Any recommendations for my next points? And my science? Even though my biology is 2, I still do not see any neighboring star systems. How long before I can actually do anything but build up my production point base? This seems like it will take forever. :)

-Scott

Aneille
12/31/2003, 10:26 AM
This is mine after about a day of playing. It does seem to be taking forever. Runner we need to team up in a few days and take up some of the other planets in our system. I think in a few days time we own most of it. Although I am not real sure how to go about doing any of that yet! And an RC alliance would be realuy nice.

#1 lvl Progress Remain
Population 2
Hydroponic Farm 1
Robotic Factory 3
Galactic Cybernet 1
Research Lab 0
Starbase 2

Biology 0
Economy 0
Energy 0
Mathematics 0
Physics 0
Social 2

Culture 1

srit1
12/31/2003, 10:33 AM
Runner - tkae Farms and Factories up to 6 or 7 before doing anything else

on science - social is a good way to start - you wont need math,physics,bio for a long time

energy is just nice to have but isnt useful till later when u have a fleet

srit1
12/31/2003, 10:34 AM
runner - then start getting your GCs up - so u can take another planet

srit1
12/31/2003, 10:39 AM
Here's my run down:
Bio - 4
Econ - 10
Energy - 9
Math - 11
Phys - 11
Social - 13
Cul - 4

planet 1
farm - 7
factory - 8
gc - 8
lab - 8
base - 8

planet 2
farm - 7
factory - 8
gc - 9
lab - 8
base - 8

planet 3
farm - 7
factory - 6
gc - 5
lab - 3
base - 2

up to about 80 destroyers in my fleet - rdy to make a major attack soon I think

Aneille
12/31/2003, 10:52 AM
We need to find a chat room once we all get up with our fleets so the alliance can coordinate attacks/defence and stragety.

This is really cool.

Runner
12/31/2003, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by srit1
on science - social is a good way to start - you wont need math,physics,bio for a long time I figured that out just a few minutes ago. I ignorantly left my science on bio overnight and it went up when I wasn't looking. Starting on that now -- plus building a GC as soon as my next robotics gets its upgrade.

This game is starting to look very addictive.

:)

Runner
12/31/2003, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by Aneille
We need to find a chat room once we all get up with our fleets so the alliance can coordinate attacks/defence and stragety.

This is really cool. For direct communications, you can use my ICQ number: 46515018

I think ICQ can support multiple conversations. If not, we can always find an IRC server somewhere.

So, what do we name our alliance? It has to be something the general public understands. Hmmmm. How about "The Galactic Nemos". ;) Ah, well. I'll let the experienced people handle that. I feel like a gnat on a horse's butt at the moment.

justletmein
12/31/2003, 12:03 PM
Galactic Nemos, I like that! ;)

dodofish
12/31/2003, 12:17 PM
Is it better to attack a very week planet or build longer and try to take a stronger planet with more infrastructure in place? Or is it better to work out an alliance with a strong player in your system.
I will be getting my third planet today and pretty soon I'll be ready to make a move.

Any advice?

justletmein
12/31/2003, 12:25 PM
dodofish, having an ally in your system is very powerful, the two of you can fight off just about any invader with coordinated attacks. As for the planets, I like taking the higher-level planets as they're ready to go and have PP's and infrastructure waiting for you, plus you get more experience. If you're already to the next culture level though and it'll take a long time to get the higher-level planet you're probably better off grabbing whatever planet you can get right now and getting the ball rolling, then hit the other one when your next culture point kicks in.

dodofish
12/31/2003, 12:31 PM
Thanks! This game really picks up once you get a couple of planets.

Perez14
12/31/2003, 12:36 PM
planet 1
pop-9
farms-9
factory-10
net-9
lab-9
base-9

planet 2
pop-8
farm-7
fact-8
net-7
lab-7
base-7

planet 3 (not even a day old)
pop-2
factory-3
everything else is 0

science
bio-10
eco-9
NRG-10
Math-9
Phys-9
Social-10
Culture-3

don't have that big of a fleet but I should be a PITA to try and beat.

Coral Dilema
12/31/2003, 01:06 PM
after about 8 hours (i started playing 4am this morning) I have:

population 1(+2)
hydroponic farm 1
research lab 1
starbase 2
my production poitns are (+1) also


I have level 1 social science, and a science point rate of +2 per hour.

My strategy is to increase my point rate first, then increase my population, then . . Try to take over the world! er . . universe.

srit1
12/31/2003, 06:01 PM
galactic nemos - very good

the GN Alliance

now i wish I was near one of you

srit1
12/31/2003, 06:09 PM
anyone had this problem:

i cannot log into my personal inbox and send messages and things - therefore i have no way of asking an admin for help

i want to offer an alliance to a person in my system before we kill eachother - on that note:

i own planets 3,4,6,7 in my system
she has 1,2,5 - i was on my way to 5 so i had a nice block and she took it! I kinda just want to anniilate her but im afraid of a huge fleet in waiting

Coral Dilema
12/31/2003, 07:56 PM
Im at X - 53 Y - 54 in the alpha baham system, planet #7

srit1
12/31/2003, 09:13 PM
im at 14 -47 - planets 3-8 areat least guarded by me

what do you think this means? My opponent in my system colonizes a free planet and i had already sent a destoyer there to orbit - their colony ship got there first then I arrived and there was no battle. So they dont have a fleet there (yet). Maybe they dont have a fleet at all... I think I may put on the full attack tomorrow

justletmein
12/31/2003, 11:06 PM
Stephen, I can PM them if you want. There was an issue with the PM system on their board a few days ago, but I thought it was resolved.

Their system had no defenses, so your destroyer just cruised in and took control. She probably thinks you did it on purpose, so ya might expect a counter attack.

Anybody out near me in -42/1?

srit1
01/01/2004, 01:32 AM
if you wouldnt mind justletmein tha'd be great

my id there is srit1 like here

i think you are right - i expect a counter attack - im counting on it =) I am hoping she is sending the preponderance of her fleet there - planet 1 to 5.... long trip at this stage in the game

then once her fleet arrives there launching an attack fleet against her main planet - we shall see... this is fun

question though: 1) if a planet is owned by another and they have 0 starbases, pop=1, and you have ds in orbit: can they still develop the planet?

2) if you are orbiting a free planet with ds what if another's colony ship arrives?

we've got a good number of of people here so lets continue the strategy talk and alliances! i sure wish i had one of you near by

justletmein
01/01/2004, 02:22 AM
I'll send the PM now.

1) They cannot spend any PP's while under seige, and nothing will accumulate if they don't login. If they keep logging in you'll get their accumulated PP's when you get there with your transports.
2) Your DS will swat the other player's colony/transport ship like a fly.

srit1
01/01/2004, 07:27 AM
AWESOME!!!
Planet 5 is MINE MINE MINE (in 60 hours when i get cul=5)

Thanks for the info justletmein.

btw - a fleet has yet to arrive from this person and they have logged in but nada - they may be trying a planet farther from me now - they have 1,2 - I've blocked off 3-8 =) Time to occupy 9,11,12 now with just 1 DS

srit1
01/01/2004, 03:58 PM
finally she attacked - and lost =)

Aneille
01/01/2004, 04:50 PM
Cool! Congratulations!

srit1
01/01/2004, 05:00 PM
Thank yah!

Coral Dilema
01/01/2004, 07:50 PM
UPDATE:

Omen, Alpha baham 7, (53/54)

Population 5
starbase 2
hydroponic farm 5
robotic factory 3
galactic cybernet 2
research lab 1

mathematics 3
physics 1
social 5
culture 1


Going to be pushing hydro farms and robotic factories hard, then research labs.


Im in a system with 3 other noobs

one has pop2 starbase 2
one has pop1 starbase 2
the last has pop2 starbase 2

Im wondering if these guys are building fleets? maybe I should up my starbase defences.

I own planet 7, the others that are owned are 1,4, and 10.


Cool game, would be better with more graphics instead of pure text.

srit1
01/01/2004, 07:56 PM
sounds like two ofthose players arent playing really

attack them with 10 ds when you can and take your new planets that way

looking good though

Aneille
01/01/2004, 08:10 PM
I haven't built up my starbases yet. When should you start doing that?

Coral Dilema
01/01/2004, 08:12 PM
Starbases are your planetary defence, build them up if you suspect you are going to be attacked .. actually, if you think your going to be attacked, its probably already too late.

Coral Dilema
01/01/2004, 08:13 PM
since there are only 4 or 5 of us playing this, I may set up a dedicated server and run Roger Wilco or something similare on it to host for us . . I did that when I was playing Dark Age of Camelot.

Aneille
01/01/2004, 08:29 PM
Don't think I am going to be attacked yet. Plus I have an ally in my system. There is 4 of us and Runner is in my system as well. I figure the earliest I could be attacked is sometime tomorrow or Friday. That is only if the others spent the majority of their PP's on a fleet and on GC's. It is more likely this weekend.

I used to have Roger Wilco set up back in the days when I played a lot of online games. Don't know if my PC can handle anymore junk on it now though!

ijneb
01/01/2004, 08:32 PM
07:39:11 - Jan 03 Attention !!! We have evidence of an incoming fleet around that time.
7 Destroyer
going to attack Alpha Azmidiske 7!
We suppose its the Fleet of Marinela. :mad:

So what do i do now?

srit1
01/01/2004, 08:55 PM
only 7...
how many starbases do you have? just upgrade those

use the battle calculator to determine howmnay you need (provided you have enough PP)

Coral Dilema
01/01/2004, 10:19 PM
everything is on cruise control for the next 3 hours till i build up some PP (9 per hour so far) Time to go play Americas Army for a bit . . www.americasarmy.com free to download, free to play.

Coral Dilema
01/01/2004, 11:25 PM
OK, just took an audit of this thread, it appears we hae 10 reefers playing

Justletmein
srit1
perez (gaunt on aw)
dodofish
cyclist1 (cyclingman78 on aw)
ijneb
zenovia
mercifulone
sammystingray
Coral Dilema (Omen on aw)

if anyone is using a different AW name than these, please post.

srit1
01/01/2004, 11:32 PM
fyi my brother is srit157 if thats near any of you - no where near me

hey - justletmein - anything on the PM?

NewMariner
01/01/2004, 11:39 PM
Congrats Justletmein.......seems your in the highest points after one week ranking
Number Points
41 justletmein 72

http://www.astrowars.com/rankings/interval1.php

Perez14
01/02/2004, 12:15 AM
I just won my first battle, attacked the next planet in line. I can now trade and all that fun stuff but have no idea what I'm doing. Anyone have any idea how to do all of this?

Coral Dilema
01/02/2004, 12:18 AM
im still working on beefing up my point rate, havnt even thought about building a fleet yet, beefed up my defences a bit too. I have 44 hours in the game so far.

srit1
01/02/2004, 12:42 AM
hopefully justletmein can shed somelight on trading cause it still eludes me

srit1
01/02/2004, 12:56 AM
holy crap batman - justletmein has the second highest referral points.. nice dude

justletmein
01/02/2004, 02:46 AM
srit1, I sent you a couple PM's here on RC. Did you get them? They had a few questions about your problem, and I sent you a link to the thread on their board.

What info about trading did you need to know?

NewMariner, what stats are those? I had a big battle earlier and should jump up the levels tomorrow when the server update hits (about 9:00PM CST).

justletmein
01/02/2004, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by Perez14
I just won my first battle, attacked the next planet in line. I can now trade and all that fun stuff but have no idea what I'm doing. Anyone have any idea how to do all of this?

Oh, sounds like you went up to level 1, congrats! :)

If you look in your trading screen you'll now see you have 1 SU (Supply Unit) in inventory. You can sell this for AstroDollars and turn around and buy Production Points or use it for ONE full upgrade to one of your facilities except for starbases. In the trading screen you'll see that prices for these items vary depending on market, if a lot of people are buying SU's the prices will go up (which they are, fast) and there's a spreadsheet you can click on to get history. At this point of the game do not waste your SU by upgrading a facility, it's much better to sell it for A$ and buy PP's, which you'd get about 450 of at the current rate, then use those PP's to upgrade a bunch of stuff. Now, once you get your factories and such up to where it takes 1800 PP's to get to the next level, that's when you spend the SU for the upgrade instead of selling it.

Whew, that was a lot of typing. Any questions?

justletmein
01/02/2004, 03:48 AM
Originally posted by Aneille
I haven't built up my starbases yet. When should you start doing that?

I have a friend that recruited me to the game, he's ranked like 34 and all his starbases are still at level 2. For some reason nobody has attacked him on his home turf, but he's always fighting elsewhere. Right now your enemy's energy science is going to be at a low level, so you'll get a notice of an incoming fleet like 18 hours before it arrives. Later when they've been researching energy they can planet hop to an empty planet next to yours and hit you with only 5 hours notice.

vinsane
01/02/2004, 07:11 AM
I knew I should be more active posting on forums ;) Ever since you sent me that e-mail 'Cosmic Flounder' just keeps coming to mind... oh well guess I'll raise all my SB's to 3

Nek
01/02/2004, 07:52 AM
Im in as Nek, Alpha Ed Asich 7,

It is taking forever to bump up my culture (+7).

vinsane
01/02/2004, 07:57 AM
Hey look justletmein,

It's Penut Butter Jelly Time!!!! thas so cool...

Runner
01/02/2004, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by Coral Dilema
OK, just took an audit of this thread, it appears we hae 10 reefers playing [...] Make that eleven -- you forgot me. I am playing under "Runner", of course.

Edit
And I've just started playing around with ships this morning. I sent a colony fleet to an unoccuppied world and a destroyer to another. At present culture growth, I won't be able to take a world until sometime tomorrow, though. This is Day 4 for me and things are finally starting to get interesting.

vinsane
01/02/2004, 09:01 AM
You could count me too, although I joined the game before posting on this forum...

Runner
01/02/2004, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by vinsane
You could count me too, although I joined the game before posting on this forum... So is Justletmein using Astrowars to recruit reefers now? Or were you one of those before posting, too? :D

vinsane
01/02/2004, 09:12 AM
No actually, I've talked with him about on and off for the last year now... Unfortunately he manages to talk me out of it with is statement... "If I knew how much it was gonna cost me... I woulda never bought the tank in the firdt place." Of course I think he's afraid to get me into it, cause every time I ask him for a tank he offers it to me at cost (which is too expensive in my mind) and offers it to someone off the board at a really really really ridiculously low price ;)

Aneille
01/02/2004, 10:09 AM
My cousin started playing the other day too. So we may be able to add one more to the alliance. Although he doesn't own a fish tank.

Runner
01/02/2004, 10:13 AM
Heck, with 5300+ people playing, we can use all the friendlies out there that we can get. Aneille and I are fortunate to share the same star system.

As near as I can tell, the game has also been going on for four weeks now. Is that correct? Some players have some very large fleets out there. I am glad they hid us new-comers in some corner of the galaxy...

vinsane
01/02/2004, 10:46 AM
No, the game only started on the 15th... imagine how it will be in another two weeks ;) It's always good to have allies close to you...

Runner
01/02/2004, 12:43 PM
Guys, I just got the following message:

20:37:25 - Jan 03
Attention !!! We have evidence of an incoming fleet around that time.
2 Destroyer
going to attack Alpha Gienah (Cyg) 4!
We suppose its the Fleet of telssa.Is this a joke? Or is it a precurser to weaken my Starbase before the real fleet comes in? This guy has been behind me in production (I assumed), so I am not sure if this is a serious threat or not.

I have been active for 4 days now. My stats are as follows:

Population 7
Hydroponic Farm 6
Robotic Factory 6
Galactic Cybernet 5
Research Lab 4
Starbase 4

Science:
Biology 3
Economy 0
Energy 5
Mathematics 4
Physics 4
Social 7

Is there any advice you can give me? Could there be more or less destroyers than listed? This sounds like a free bump up to Level 1, but I don't want to be too cocky...

P.S. I have 3 destroyers of my own, but they are enroute to some vacant worlds.

Runner
01/02/2004, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by justletmein
If you look in your trading screen you'll now see you have 1 SU (Supply Unit) in inventory. You can sell this for AstroDollars and turn around and buy Production Points or use it for ONE full upgrade to one of your facilities except for starbases. In the trading screen you'll see that prices for these items vary depending on market, if a lot of people are buying SU's the prices will go up (which they are, fast) and there's a spreadsheet you can click on to get history. At this point of the game do not waste your SU by upgrading a facility, it's much better to sell it for A$ and buy PP's, which you'd get about 450 of at the current rate, then use those PP's to upgrade a bunch of stuff. Now, once you get your factories and such up to where it takes 1800 PP's to get to the next level, that's when you spend the SU for the upgrade instead of selling it. So, does this mean that Aneille and I should throw a few destroyers at each other so that we can get a couple of free supply units? The costs are far less than the gains...

vinsane
01/02/2004, 12:57 PM
Yes... if you don't have your 1st level... send a couple of ds at their SB that will give them 6 points in which to gain a level... you can do this for ever... but you'll have to keep sending more nad more ds...

srit1
01/02/2004, 01:27 PM
runner - i wouldnt worry - 2 cant hurt you but if you are worried up your starbase

also instead of attacking aneille to get your points why not attack the other players in your system? the guy attacking you perhaps - get aneilee to at the same time attack another planet of his

Runner
01/02/2004, 02:09 PM
Another question -- I sent out my colony ship to a world before my culture could support taking that world. My culture will not be high enough when it arrives, either. What will happen to it? Will it sit in orbit until my culture is high enough? Or do I have to send it out-and-back?

dodofish
01/02/2004, 02:15 PM
Hey runner.

The same thing happened to me. I sent 3 colony ships with 3 destroyers. They arrived before my culture level was ok to take on another planet. They stayed in orbit - it said the planet was under seige and I could not take over. Even after my culture value was updated it still would not take over the planet. I ended up sending them all to another planet and they took it over with no problem.

Not sure why this happened anyone else encounter this?

srit1
01/02/2004, 02:32 PM
your culture lvl must be high enough when the colony ship is launched to take that planet - you can send the colony ship that is now orbitting to the sameplanet its on and ittakes a few hrs but then u get the planet

sammystingray
01/02/2004, 03:02 PM
Hey guys...any advice for a new guy?? I started 2 and a half days ago. this is what I have so far (see below). I am planet one in a world of 12. There are three other people on 4, 7, and 10. The players on 7 and 10 were idle so long that I thought they left, and they started after me. Thankfully they logged back in today, and now both have pops of 3 and starbases of 2. Does anyone know how much longer the game will last? This will be very very important in deciding what I do. I could use some advice. thanks.

Population lvl 7
Hydroponic Farm 6
Robotic Factory 8
Galactic Cybernet 3
Research Lab 5
Starbase 4
Production is +15 per hour

Science (+12 per hour)
Biology 4
Economy 0
Energy 5
Mathematics 2
Physics 0
Social 7
Culture (+3 per hour)
Culture 1

sammystingray
01/02/2004, 03:10 PM
Also, there is an unknown planet in the next system, and I believe I read they can sometimes give you artifacts, so should I go for that, or a free planet in my own system first?? I am lucky enough to be the most senior player in my system, but not by much...........maybe about 14 hours. I have the week off from work though, and have had plenty of time to keep up on things. I think I should just keep getting my PP rate up until it's nice and high, and then go crazy building a fleet, but I am so tempted to start working on other things!:uzi:

srit1
01/02/2004, 03:43 PM
when u can take out one of thoseother players so you can upgrade to player level 1 - then u get an SU which is (right now) worth over 400PP which is HUGE for you this early on

the game should last a few more months - thats what i've gathered.

oh and i'd get your GCs up since conquest and colonization is fun

justletmein
01/02/2004, 03:44 PM
sammy, These games are supposed to last about three months. I wouldn't spread out to another system just yet, you'll be spreading yourself thin and it'll be hard to defend or re-take you planet if someone nabs it from you.

sammystingray
01/02/2004, 03:53 PM
OK, thanks guys. The player on 4 seems to have joined and left, and may not come back. He's been idle for two days. [b]Is that planet a waste since he probably won't log back in? What should I try to send to the nearest active player described above??

srit1
01/02/2004, 03:56 PM
you can take that idle player and get an easy 5 exp

10 ds is plenty - you are right that attacking and beating a larger fleet is better but obviously you need more to do it.

justletmein
01/02/2004, 03:57 PM
I took over a planet from an idler early on and it wasn't worth it. You get 5 exp points for killing the starbase though...

vinsane
01/02/2004, 04:13 PM
Best advice... Push out Colony ships, 3 of them, and try to take a planet as soon as your culture lets you (not just launch when your culture goes up but try to time your colony ships to get ther just after you make your next culture point. Take the 30 PPs you get from the two colony ships and punch 'em straight into Robofac... watch your Galactic Cy and rais it a level at time... focus on those right off and as you acquire more planets, switch to some of the other things... try to shoot a 1 planet jump as this will allow you the shortest amount of travel time... I was the last one to satrt in my sytem... and I have half the planets now that everyone is fighting for scraps...

srit1
01/02/2004, 04:45 PM
agreed vinsane - did the same thing

killing an idle at first gets you toplayer lvl 1 - thats why doing it early is worth it - after that, not so much

NewMariner
01/02/2004, 06:08 PM
Im screwed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

News
21:16:23 - Jan 02 Attention !!! We have evidence of an incoming fleet around that time.
23 Destroyer
going to attack Alpha Arrakis 8!
We suppose its the Fleet of tellop.
10:30:29 - Jan 02 Attention !!! We have evidence of an incoming fleet around that time.
101 Destroyer
going to attack Alpha Arrakis 7!
We suppose its the Fleet of tellop.
10:29:27 - Jan 02 Your defending fleet was defeated by tellop at Alpha Arrakis 7. You killed about 75%.

Hostile forces in the orbit of Alpha Arrakis 7!

justletmein
01/02/2004, 06:21 PM
You need a SB of 7 or more to defend Arrakis 8. What are your coordinants? Maybe we can get someone to clean those destroyers from your planet.

NewMariner
01/02/2004, 06:33 PM
I had a SB of Level 9....Then I had about 20 Destroyers in orbit.....he sent 101 Ships, wiped me out....I have some 200 something PPs to spend but I cant spend them while hes in orbit.........

My coordinates are 24/48.......

justletmein
01/02/2004, 06:37 PM
I'm nowhere near you, but maybe someone else is. I'll ask elsewhere too.

What's your SB at your other planet that he sent 23 destroyers to?

srit1
01/02/2004, 06:40 PM
i'm not close enough. Nor is anyone I know - sorry.

Are those your only two planets? If so can you launch a Colony ship somewhere and start over from there....

justletmein
01/02/2004, 06:41 PM
Also, he's only got about 25 destroyers sitting on your planet 7 so if you can launch enough fleet from planet 8 before his forces get there you can re-take your planet 7 before his transports get there. Then, you can use your accumulated PP's on planet 7 to go re-take planet 8. (I hope I didn't get the numbers mixed up)

Runner
01/02/2004, 09:29 PM
I was able to look out into the galaxy and can see that my neighbor has a whole system to himself. Planet 4 is under seige, so I reckon he took out the Starbase there.

Planets at Alpha Ak (52/4)
ID Population Starbase Owner
1 9 4 StrangeWalker
2 5 3 StrangeWalker
3 0 0 Free Planet
4 1 0 roudoudou
5 0 0 Free Planet
6 0 0 Free Planet
7 1 0 doudou
8 0 0 Free Planet
9 0 0 Free Planet
10 1 2 taurusss
11 0 0 Free Planet
12 0 0 Free Planet

Should I contact this guy at all? He started 5 days ahead of me. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to play nice with him.

The other star system that I see started at the same time I did and has two active players. Sheesh. Figures I would end up in the system with all four active (even if the two non-RC players started late).

srit1
01/02/2004, 09:50 PM
sure why not? Friends always help.

Ok so a question: If I have a planet under siege can I take its population down to zero before I have enough culture points to actually own it? Then when my culture goes up assume control?

I know you cant do the analagous sequence with CS but I'm hoping you can with transports.

vinsane
01/02/2004, 10:02 PM
Unfortunately the population grows and the lower it is the faster it grows... best to wait til you got the culture before bring it down, or else it might go back up to 3 before you get there...

justletmein
01/02/2004, 10:43 PM
You can send as many transports you want, but the pop will always be 1 if your culture isn't high enough to take over. Then, like vinsane said, it'll keep growing back up and you'll need more and more transports. Best to send them all so they arrive about 30 minutes after your culture level goes up. Note: You must login between the time you culture goes up and your ships arrive.

srit1
01/02/2004, 10:53 PM
awesome guys, thanks!

NewMariner
01/02/2004, 10:55 PM
Im Doomed!!!

Your defending fleet was defeated by tellop at Alpha Arrakis 8. You killed about 85%.

Both planets Alpha Arakis 7&8 are now under siege......

Ironically I did finally get a few destroyers to one of his planets Alpha Arakis 1 and am now laying siege to it........

justletmein
01/02/2004, 10:58 PM
you can use those destroyers to get your planets back. He's only got 15% left of those 23 he sent to your planet, plus the other ones on your other planet. Good job on seiging his planet, but you can't make any transport ships to colonize it.

srit1
01/02/2004, 10:59 PM
hmm - you took out ALOT of his fleet(s) - PM someone near by and ask for help - anyone with a decent fleet would like the exp and you could offer money or something or just to return the favor in the future.

I thought of another reason not to drop the pop before u can take full control: (correct me if I am wrong)

If they have a higher pop then they have a higher PP/hr right. Therefore leaving it high until you can totally take it will give you more PP to use once you do take it. Right?

justletmein
01/02/2004, 11:02 PM
That's correct as long as they're still logging in. If they don't login you get what the planet had the last time they logged in.

Good point on the PM. NewMariner, there should be someone nearby who's willing to swat those destroyers off of you. They'll have the advantage because you can tell them exactly how many are sitting there.

srit1
01/02/2004, 11:10 PM
Good point justletmein - thankfully this person is logging in everyday

ChrisIsBored
01/03/2004, 12:54 AM
If I were anywhere close i'd offer to help you out. I've formed a bit of an alliance with 3 other users and so far we've got the strongest little group out of the 18 star systems on my screen.

;)

srit1
01/03/2004, 11:38 AM
if I attacked an already seiged planet and nothing happens, no battle, does that mean they were seiging with a colony ship? cause a transport would drop the pop right and disappear...

wdt2000
01/03/2004, 12:21 PM
Any tips for getting my culture to move up levels faster?

Anyone near me? Alpha Megrez (-27/52)

I am also near Alpha Mintaka & Alpha Pish Pai

Aneille
01/03/2004, 12:25 PM
My cousin is at -5/54. If your in his system he is willing to make alliances. Marsnut his is name.

srit1
01/03/2004, 12:36 PM
i'm not super far from you wdt or your cousin aneille

im at -14/47 - in time i may run across them

sweet - finally something kinda close =)

wdt - raise GCs - take over a newplanet and build its GCs up
a lvl 1 gc does thesamething as lvl 10 so a its cheaper to colonize a newplanet and get its GCs up

later in the game there are artifacts and trade agreement to help

Nek
01/03/2004, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by wdt2000
Any tips for getting my culture to move up levels faster?

Anyone near me? Alpha Megrez (-27/52)

I am also near Alpha Mintaka & Alpha Pish Pai

Im -27/51. Which I would assume is pretty close. How do I find out???? My name is Nek.

Its taking my culture forever to raise to 2. I already sent out my colony ship which should arrive just after my culture raises to 2.

srit1
01/03/2004, 12:57 PM
Nek - not sure thats gonna work for you. I think when your CS arrives it wont colonize unless you resend it to the sameplanet from that planet - let me know cause i want to know the definitive answer

but yes if your corrdinates are not far off in either x or y then you are close

the corrdinates are just corrdinates as on a cartesian plane - high school algebra

Nek
01/03/2004, 01:07 PM
Thanks srit1... I thought I read somewhere as long as the Colony arrives AFTER the culture is bumped I will be OK. I hope this is the case, otherwise I wasted 60 points and about 24 hrs.

Is there a master "grid" map somewhere where I can see everyone???

Aneille
01/03/2004, 01:13 PM
I tried it but my culture went up after the ship arrived, I think. Anyway you don't lose the ship, it just sits in orbit. I've re-sent mine to the same planet and it should now colonize the planet.

Nek
01/03/2004, 01:18 PM
Can someone outline how to attack another planet????

Perez14
01/03/2004, 02:45 PM
To attack another planet get a group of destroyers together and then go to your fleet tab. From there launch that group to the desired planet and your done. Not to hard to do, just takes a bit of time to get a good sized fleet when you are a newer player.

WTD I am also near you at -26/49. Name is gaunt and I pretty much control my system. I have an aliance with the only other participant in my system but I may go ahead and get rid of that in a week or so. All depends on what ships I have. I control 4 of the planets but I could dontrol up to 9 of them if my culture allowed. And by that time I would be able to take over the rest very easily.

Nek
01/03/2004, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by Perez14
To attack another planet get a group of destroyers together and then go to your fleet tab. From there launch that group to the desired planet and your done. Not to hard to do, just takes a bit of time to get a good sized fleet when you are a newer player.



Thanks. Do you send transports at the same time???

Perez14
01/03/2004, 03:39 PM
if you want to take over the planet you should, but you could also send them when you send the CS to colonize the planet.

srit1
01/03/2004, 03:39 PM
Maybe.
If you meet these conditions I would:
1) You are SURE you are gonna win - otherwise you'll lose everything
2)You have sufficient culture to own the planet
3)Have enough transports to drop pop to 0

Nek let us know when you CS arrives and what happens.

srit1
01/03/2004, 03:41 PM
perez - you dont need a CS to colonize a planet you have defeated - just enough transports to drop the pop to 0

lilswanwillow
01/03/2004, 03:42 PM
okokok, Just joined

Alpha Alphekka (22/-58)

srit1
01/03/2004, 04:07 PM
should i buy cruisers or battleships? any thoughts?

ChrisIsBored
01/03/2004, 04:56 PM
Battleships are nice, but Cruisers are more economic for their power.

srit1
01/03/2004, 05:28 PM
true

they have equal CV to cost ratio but obviously its split differently between attack and defense....

Nek
01/03/2004, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by srit1

Nek let us know when you CS arrives and what happens.

It wont arrive until tomorrow sometime.

I just reached culture level 2, and I have 3 days until level 3!!!!! That stinks.

srit1
01/03/2004, 07:04 PM
same here - at 5 - 3 days till 6 - just keep up on the GCs

so there's this guy in my system that has logged in onlya few times over the span of 12 days

each time he has used all points on SB so he got pop5 starbase 11 which mean if i wanted to take him out I'd need 150 ds or so - neat

sammystingray
01/04/2004, 12:09 AM
WAR!
I am now finally ready to start building my fleets. I have two folks in my system that have only logged in a few times, and since I have stuck with it....I have far surpassed them as best I can tell. They both have pops of 3 and bases of 2, but they should have some PPs sitting there.

I am planning on sending about 7 destroyers, and four transports, with a math of 7 and a physics of 6, to the closer one......the fleet shall leave by day break.:) :uzi: The calculator gave me a 99% chance with just 6 destroyers.

Perez14
01/04/2004, 12:20 AM
Well the remaining player in my system decided to play again today and took over his third planet. His fist one has a SB of 0 so it would be really easy to take over but the other two would take some power. I will be able to purchase cruisers in a couple hours so that should definetly help. He must be building his fleets.

Coral Dilema
01/04/2004, 01:36 AM
WE NEED TO FORM AN ALLIANCE SOON! I just found out that you have to join an alliance before you get 200 points or you cant join . .however, i have NO CLUE how to form/join one . . someone get this going!

Aneille
01/04/2004, 01:47 AM
I read that today too. However you also need to be level 5. I am not even level 1 yet. And you need A$, another thing I don't have at this time.

This is the link for alliance information: http://www.astrowars.com/about/glossary/id/43/

NewMariner
01/04/2004, 02:11 AM
Is anyone near 24/48? I need some help lifting a siege.........This guy hasnt sent any other ships......just sittin on top of me.....restricting my production.

Dlckwood
01/04/2004, 03:02 AM
Well I just joined the game about a hour ago. As far as I know I am alone.
Alpha Alrischa 1
(58/-36)
DLCKWOOD

srit1
01/04/2004, 03:53 AM
sorry NewMariner - nowhere close - try PMing people around you for help

I just launched my largest attack yet - 86ds and 6 cruisers versus 0 SB and whatever she has sitting there

i hope i destroy her! this is maybe a bit nerdy/obsessive but I launched my attack 30min after she logged in since I've been watching and she only logs in once or twice a day. Since its a Sunday morning in Germany maybe she will be gone for 8 hrs and never see my fleet is coming. That'd be cool

sammystingray
01/04/2004, 04:10 AM
I have no patience......I just launched an attack without waiting, and there's only 4 destroyers going. If the person doesn't log back in within the next 20 hours, I'll already be there, but if they do, and actually read their news, I could be in trouble. This person has only showed up twice so far in four days, and the first was signing up, so I am hoping to get lucky, and the second look they made will help me as well with what I get from this. I just wish I could get there quicker!

Nek
01/04/2004, 07:18 AM
OK--- The CS I launched before my culture went to 2 arrived AFTER my culture raised and was able to take the free planet. Its all about timing.:) :)

Anyone interested in an alliance just fill me in.

Im 27/51. We should really look into this alliance thing as most high scorers have 10-15 in their alliance. They will crush us alone.

srit1
01/04/2004, 12:12 PM
Awesome - thanks Nek

Perez14
01/04/2004, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by Aneille
I read that today too. However you also need to be level 5. I am not even level 1 yet. And you need A$, another thing I don't have at this time.

This is the link for alliance information: http://www.astrowars.com/about/glossary/id/43/

I think thats only to start an alliance, not join one, but I could be wrong.

lilswanwillow
01/04/2004, 12:31 PM
is anyone here level 5 yet?

srit1
01/04/2004, 01:00 PM
I will be shortly - but dont have 8000 $A

Aneille
01/04/2004, 02:19 PM
So maybe someone can trade some $A money to Srit when attains 5th level. Then we can all join.

srit1
01/04/2004, 02:40 PM
what benefit does a formal alliance give us?

lilswanwillow
01/04/2004, 03:00 PM
As an alliance creator you are then responsible for inviting players into your alliance. Sending, nor receiving an invitation costs anything but in order to accept an invitation to an alliance you must also have a minimum player level of 5 with a maximum points score of 200.

As a member of an alliance the only benefit you will receive is that it is possible for your alliance to win the game. In order for an alliance to win the game you must have a minimum of 5 members, have a cumulatively positive transfer balance, and have an alliance score greater than or equal to 470 points and maintain this for a period of 3 days.

The alliance score is calculated by taking the average score of the members, however, if you have 10 or more players then the lowest scoring member is not included in the average used to calculate the alliances overall score, and if you have 15 or more players then the 2 lowest scoring members are not included in the average used to calculate the alliances overall score.

srit1
01/04/2004, 03:09 PM
ok but there is no help to each of us as an individual?

srit1
01/04/2004, 03:10 PM
given that we arent near eachother

Runner
01/04/2004, 03:43 PM
I would say that an official alliance between us wouldn't do much good. But the offer to help each other in need (if we can) would be great.

I reached level 1 last night when a neighbor wasted 2 DS against my homeworld. I just reached level 2 today because my target sent 3 DS to clear out an empty world I was seiging next to him. I have 8 DS in waiting. I just reenforced with more than double that.

I sold one of my SU's this morning. I reckon it won't go through until 0300 GMT tonight. I tried to sell the second SU, but it won't let me. Any idea why? Is there a limit on selling them? I could have an instant mega-fleet with PPs I could buy for the value of those SUs.

srit1
01/04/2004, 04:11 PM
u can only make one order per day

Runner
01/04/2004, 05:56 PM
Darn. Thought it was something like that. I tried to sell the SU last night, but realized that I missed the update by 30 minutes. And I didn't expect to see another SU fall in my lap today. That'll learn me...

Runner
01/04/2004, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by srit1
u can only make one order per day Can I only buy production points once per day? Or as many times as I want. Rephrased: when I buy PPs, can I still sell an SU later?

srit1
01/04/2004, 10:35 PM
yes you can I believe.

I think you can buy PP whenever - it actually happens when you click the button

As far as I've gathered you can put in ONE sell order per day in whatever quantity up to 10SU's. You canot do 5 and 5 - it must be one. As far as buying other items - i suspect its 1 buy order per day as well but imnot so sure on that. Heres the faq:

http://www.astrowars.com/about/faq/#kap1d

Runner
01/04/2004, 10:50 PM
Crap. The update came and went. It shows my SU is still for sale, and no A$ in my account. What gives?

sammystingray
01/04/2004, 10:58 PM
The anticipation is killing me......my first attack will hit in almost exactly two hours.:eek2: I have another going to a planet I plan to take, and it will hit at noon tommorrow. I have spent the last five days getting my planet ready, and now I finally feel like I'm in the game!!:uzi:

Runner
01/04/2004, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by Runner
Crap. The update came and went. It shows my SU is still for sale, and no A$ in my account. What gives? Even weirder, I just tried to sell my second SU, and the orders line reads:

Supply Units -1
Supply Units -1

Is this right? Or is it a bug? I thought I couldn't have two seperate orders for supply units?

Dangit, I want my A$! I was planning an attack on an active neighbor, too.



sammystingray: Good luck!

sammystingray
01/04/2004, 11:03 PM
Hey, when I click on a system on the map, the planets show as different colors, how come? Green, red, and grey???

Aneille
01/04/2004, 11:07 PM
Red means there is a destroyer or destroyers in orbit on that planet ( the planet is under siege).

Green free planet.

grey owned planet.

sammystingray
01/04/2004, 11:20 PM
Thanks.....the guy in the next system is growing FAST, and he has a four day head start on me. He could be trouble for me eventually. He has three planets, and now I assume he is on the fourth only lacking the culture to take it.:eek2: :eek2: I almost think if he spreads thin enough, that I could take his main planet with a large attack. His main planet has a starbase of 5, a pop. of 10, and this is his first victory if he wins the unknown. The rest were free when he took them.

srit1
01/04/2004, 11:35 PM
that is weird runner

maybe wait a day and if nothing happens post a bug report

goodluck sammy

sammystingray
01/05/2004, 01:34 AM
VICTORY!! I only lost two destroyers. :fun2:

How long do I have to wait for my next level to show and get a SU??? where is the trade screen?? Thanks.:)

srit1
01/05/2004, 02:17 AM
depends on what lvl you are at. trade screen shows up between fleet and science.

congrats - i also just won a battle (3 of them actually) I'm ranked now =)

sammystingray
01/05/2004, 02:42 AM
Congats srit1, I have two more fleets on the way to war right now, and that would give me all 12 planets in my system to work with unless someone comes in from another. My victory was about an hour and a half ago, and still no trade screen or level increase????:confused:

Also, if I have destroyers orbitting a planet, can I send a transport without an escort to it??

sammystingray
01/05/2004, 02:47 AM
Actually.....I just went and logged in, which I normally do NOT do, and it was right there. OK, how do I get PPs for a supply unit??

EDIT OK, I got it. I used it for a robotic factory which are getting pretty freakin pricey lately!! woohoo!!! PP rate is +21 right now, and the game is starting to move a little faster which I thank god for!:D

sammystingray
01/05/2004, 05:37 AM
WOW, did I f up.:mad: Those two I thought were idle just signed in. I destroyed his base, but didn't bother taking the planet because I thought I had plenty of time........soon as he logged in 15 minutes ago...his pop jumped from 3 to 7.:mad: :mad: It's going to take me 7 transports now instead of three......what a freakin' impatient mistake. Hopefully they'll up their bases a little. The two on the outer edge are OBVIOUSLY a cheat.....they both joined the same time, both have "carol" in the name, both have logged on three times now, and it's always at the exact same time......death is their, or I mean his/her, fate.

Nek
01/05/2004, 07:00 AM
Sent my first attack last night. When I woke up, the player who I am attacking jumped his player level to 6???? Not sure what this means for me (my attack hasnt landed yet, only 5 Dest. and 2 Trans) , but his culture is only 2 and science 8.

Runner
01/05/2004, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by sammystingray
WOW, did I f up.:mad: Those two I thought were idle just signed in. I destroyed his base, but didn't bother taking the planet because I thought I had plenty of time........soon as he logged in 15 minutes ago...his pop jumped from 3 to 7.:mad: :mad: It's going to take me 7 transports now instead of three......what a freakin' impatient mistake. Hopefully they'll up their bases a little. The two on the outer edge are OBVIOUSLY a cheat.....they both joined the same time, both have "carol" in the name, both have logged on three times now, and it's always at the exact same time......death is their, or I mean his/her, fate. I would report this activity to somebody. It is obvious in the rules that playing two positions is not acceptable.

I tried to blockade the system I was in so my opponent could not grab the free worlds. Just last night, though, the one free world that was open (conveniently between my two worlds) was just colonized by this guy. Sheesh.

And my A$ finally came through. I bumped up my robotics, and then sent a fleet of 17 DS towards the war front. Too bad I didn't see the colony sooner or I would have sent it to that location with a transport in tow. :D

justletmein
01/05/2004, 09:28 AM
Sammy, send a PM to MultiAdmin (on the www.astrowars.com/forums board) with the information on the cheaters.

dodofish
01/05/2004, 12:02 PM
How do you calculate or predict the outcome of a battle? I understand how ds have and attack value and a defense value and you add them up to get a combat value. Then is it simply the the person with the greater value wins? Also how is a star base included in this calculation? Does the bases value just add on to both the attack and defence value of the fleet you have at that planet.

I'm just curious because I'm going back and forth with someone trying to control a planet and I want to make sure that I can stop him. The planet is mine - so is it better to increase SB value or send more DS there?

Thanks, Kirk

I'm at -15/-52 anyone close

Aneille
01/05/2004, 12:04 PM
Kirk there is a built in battle calculator you can use.

Go to your home page, and click on help. The last item on that list is the calculator.

It will figure it all out for you.

justletmein
01/05/2004, 12:15 PM
Hey Kirk,

It's far better to bump your starbase value for defense, the Combat Value per PP is much higher.

There's a lot of info at the follwing URL:
http://www.astrowars.com/about

dodofish
01/05/2004, 01:53 PM
Thanks! The battle calculator helps alot and thanks for the link that explains my questions.

Here is another question what I have gained 5 SU and I put in an order to sell for A$. Was this smart or should I have done something else with them. When I get the A$ I was planning on buying PP is this smart?

justletmein
01/05/2004, 02:15 PM
That's the norm. The only problem is right now the price of the SU is really low. As more people start buying them the price will go up over 1000 where it started. You can download a price history in excel or txt format.

ElectronRider
01/05/2004, 03:09 PM
Now you all have me sucked into this! sheesh! Like I dont have enough things to keep track of in my life! LOL

OK, I am tronic28 in the game, and I am located at -39/56

I messed up with my first few free points, I started towards a colony ship without reading the rest of the thread...Oh well.

srit1
01/05/2004, 03:17 PM
lol Electron

we can all blame justletmein

srit1
01/05/2004, 09:35 PM
what are people taking their buildings up to?

ive taken all 5 of my planets up to:
8 farms
9 robo
10 gc
8 labs
9 starbase

where would you upgrade from there?

Perez14
01/05/2004, 09:42 PM
I would go after gc's and labs with the occasional starbase and factory. You could also throw a farm in there once in a blue moon.

justletmein
01/05/2004, 09:44 PM
Stephen, looks good. You can always up the robos.

justletmein
01/05/2004, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by Perez14
I would go after gc's and labs with the occasional starbase and factory. You could also throw a farm in there once in a blue moon.

Yeah, those GC's start making an impact real quick.

Perez14
01/05/2004, 09:53 PM
planet update. Just got my 5th planet and 6 is already waiting for my culture to change.

Planet 1
Pop-11
Farms-9
Fact-10
net-11
lab-10
base-9

Planet 2
Pop-10
farms-9
fact-10
net-9
lab-9
base-9

Planet 3

Pop-9
farms-9
fact-9
net-7
lab-9
base-7

Planet 4
pop-4
farms-3
fact-5
net-6
lab-4
base-6

Planet 5
pop-1
farms-1
Fact-1
net-0
lab-0
base-0

Science
bio-11
eco-10
NRG-11
Math-15
Phys-13
Social-12

My fleet is gettin to be pretty big, approaching 100 total ships.

NewMariner
01/05/2004, 10:02 PM
Nicely done...how about sending some of your fleet to my planet and helping me get rid of my seige?

I have over 1600 PPs on one of my planets and I cant use them because Im being seiged......

TheUPSguy
01/05/2004, 10:52 PM
Alpha Secunda Giedi 1 (-22/-58)
#1 lvl Remain
Population +6 5 25
Hydroponic Farm 5 38
Robotic Factory 6 45
Galactic Cybernet 3 17
Research Lab 3 17
Starbase 4 13





lvl Science (+8 per hour) Remain
Biology 6 11 1:21
Economy 0 5 0:37
Energy 0 5 0:37
Mathematics 0 5 0:37
Physics 0 5 0:37
Social 4 16 :58
Culture (+3 per hour)
Culture 1 264 3 days


any ideas what i should do next? My system seems to be with 3 others, and i am the strongest one there is seems with the stats

Perez14
01/05/2004, 10:58 PM
mariner, where are you located.

NewMariner
01/05/2004, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by Perez14
mariner, where are you located.

24/48

srit1
01/05/2004, 11:41 PM
upsguy

up the GCs and keep Social ahead of the game - start on math or phys so u can build nicer fleets and win more battles

sammystingray
01/06/2004, 01:26 AM
Hey guys, if I have a planet with a base of zero, but my fleet took it and is still sitting there, if someone attacks the planet, will my fleet fight?? Or will they take the planet and get my fleet?

Basically, does the fleet a planet has sitting there add to the defense?

Nek
01/06/2004, 06:17 AM
How do you know how big a fleet another planet has??? I sent 5 destroyers to a planet with culture2, pop 2 and got beat. Took out 75% of his, but still lost.

justletmein
01/06/2004, 08:25 AM
Sammy, yes, if your fleet is sitting there and someone sends another they will duke it out.

Nek, there's no way to tell how large the fleet is sitting on the planet. Best thing is to overkill it.

Runner
01/06/2004, 08:41 AM
I have been having a successful war (with the aid of Aneille). I am already up to level 5 -- and we both control 2 planets. I am about to take my nemesis' seiged colony tonight when my culture rises. I must say, there have been some close calls, but I think we'll get him by attrition -- we have growth though expansion and he does not. And the three SUs I am about to cash in tonight will certainly help. ;) Aneille is playing chicken with the other guy we share our system with. With luck, she should colonize the disputed world today.

It seems really hard to knock off a homeworld. The resources to drop his population alone are staggering. I think I've dropped into the mode of taking out any colony he makes until I have enough DS to handle splatting against a level 9 battlestation (just in case).

wdt2000
01/06/2004, 10:29 AM
I won my fist attack!! The players name was Gaunt.

Aneille
01/06/2004, 10:40 AM
I think Gaunt is another member of this board..I think...

wdt2000
01/06/2004, 10:50 AM
Thats no good.:eek: I had already sent my fleet to take over that planet when he arrived, so it was not an intended attack.

Runner
01/06/2004, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by Aneille
I think Gaunt is another member of this board..I think... Yes, he is an RC person. He is known as "perez" on this board. Perhaps you guys can work it out...

wdt2000
01/06/2004, 11:04 AM
I sent him an email letting him know that I would pull out and he could have the planet back. When I sent my fleet it was an Unknown planet, about 4 hours later Gaunt arrived. At that point on fleet was already on its way.

justletmein
01/06/2004, 11:52 AM
Whoopsey! I guess that's why it's called AstroWars ;)

originally posted by GAUNT
My fleet is gettin to be pretty big, approaching 100 total ships.

srit1
01/06/2004, 01:09 PM
Oops! I made a mistake: Dont repeat it:

Successfully seiged a planet with pop 13. Culture has 9 hours to go until lvl 6. I sent 14 (one extra) to the planet with a 10 hour travel time. Result: Pop drops to 1 using 13 transports, 1 remainings in orbit (with escort fleet). Solution: resend Transport to same planet hoping the pop doesnt lvl up before it lands again - 5 hour delay.

What did I do wrong: Didnt log in between culture going to lvl 6 and the transports landing. Oops!

Aneille
01/06/2004, 05:59 PM
Stephen I did the same thing today. But with a free planet so no transports involved. I was out and couldn't log in so my CS was just sitting in orbit. Should be mine tonight though.

srit1
01/06/2004, 06:09 PM
Well - even with my mistake and resulting delay it was well worth it! I got her planet with these inherited stats:

farms:12
facs:12
gc:13
labs:8

pp : 240

awesome!

justletmein
01/06/2004, 06:13 PM
Nice! :thumbsup:

Runner
01/06/2004, 06:19 PM
Almost makes you feel like losing all those destroyers and spending some PP on twelve transports worth it... ;)

Congrats. I hope to repeat your feat in about 3 days -- but with a population 10 world.

srit1
01/06/2004, 06:44 PM
oh my gosh - its a great investment

40ds (lost) * 27 + 14tran * 60 = 1920 PP cost

a lvl 12 buildings is a total of 1287PP * 2 + 1936 (lvl13) + 246 (lvl8) + 240PP = 4996PP gain

yeah - ill take that =)

also this new planet instantly contributes

justletmein
01/06/2004, 08:29 PM
It's worth much more than raw numbers because everything is bumped up and starts building instantly. Your culture and science bonuses start going up fast this way. :D

srit1
01/06/2004, 08:37 PM
exactamundo

Perez14
01/06/2004, 09:47 PM
wtd-
Don't worry about it. I had a fleet already on its way to protect the planet when you sent yours so if they met up it wouldn't have been pretty. Somethin like 34 ds and 2 or 3 cruisers. No biggie, honest mistake. If you want I'll build stuff up a bit more and move out. I just went to the planet to see if there was any artifacts. I would rather have total control of my system.

TheUPSguy
01/06/2004, 09:47 PM
just a quick question. Can I send a Colony ship to a free planet un escorted, and take the planet, or do I need to send a ship with it?

Perez14
01/06/2004, 09:54 PM
You can send it without an escort. I would though just incase someone wanted to attack it.

TheUPSguy
01/06/2004, 10:00 PM
Ok here are my stats as of 9:50pm

population level 7 remain is 104
farm is at level 5 remain is 38
robot factory is at level 6 remain is 45
cybernet is level 7 remain is 57
research lab is level 6 remain is 57
starbase is level 5 remain is 38
producion points are at 83 and I get +13/hr

I have 1 destroyer

SCIENCE is at +12 per hour

biology is level 6 with reamin 11..... 54 min
economy and energy are at level 0
math is at level 4 remain is 24 with 1:58 left
physics is at level 5 remain is 27 with 2:11 left
social is at level 7 remain is 85 with 7:01 left

culture is doing +6 per hour and has level 1 remain is 148 with 24:36 left.

should i spend my pp on starbase upgrade and a factory or should i get another lab or a colony ship? or just save?


thanks guys





EDIT the other guys in my sector are at sci 4, pop 3 starbase 4 idle for 1 day..................sci 7 pop 5 starbase 4 idle for 5 hours........and my favorite and closest sci 0 pop 1 starbase 2 idle for 3 days.

srit1
01/06/2004, 10:42 PM
keep social going so u dont top out with your pop

ok so u have 24 hrs till u can take a planet meaning you need to sendyourcolony ship at a free planet in 12 (or so - use arrival calculator to get it more exact)

meaning you need to have a colony ship 12 hours from now and it does no good until then. so 93PP + 13*12 = 249PP to spend in the next 12 hours. Spend the last 60 on a colony ship - meaning 5 hours out from launch start saving. Take away those 60 and you have 189 to spend in the next 7 hours. I would upgrade farm, factory, farm, factory.

(Some people will make 2 extra colony ships and send them along to the new planet cause it gets it off the ground much faster)

TheUPSguy
01/06/2004, 10:49 PM
thanks for the input

TheUPSguy
01/06/2004, 11:13 PM
AH did the server for awars go down???? i got a cannot find server blank page. this sucks.




I need my fix................I got money to spend and i cant spend it. AHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA

Aneille
01/06/2004, 11:21 PM
Went down for me and I really hope it goes back up and soon. I had some changes to do before bed.

***Edit: it is back up***

Perez14
01/06/2004, 11:53 PM
It's still down for me.

justletmein
01/06/2004, 11:54 PM
Seems to be going up and down.

Aneille
01/06/2004, 11:55 PM
It went up long enough for me to cash some $ into PP's and then it went down again. I have a GS landing at 11pm my time and it was well past that when I got on and it still hadn't landed.

Server must be all messed up.

TheUPSguy
01/06/2004, 11:55 PM
Perez it was up for like 10 mins and then went back down. I wonder if they are getting alot of traffic or something.

justletmein
01/07/2004, 12:05 AM
Nah, traffic doesn't ever seem to hurt them. Probably some drunk took out a telco box that provides their circuits or something...

Aneille, when the space/time continuum freezes your clocks keep moving but ships and beings are frozen in time :D

sammystingray
01/07/2004, 12:05 AM
^%$^%#$^%$^^ and %$#^$#^$!!!!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:

I flooded them four times, and I'm locked out for 24 hours!:(

I had twenty nonrelated windows open and still got a flood warning??? I'm afraid to even hit a button because it floods them all the freakin" time. I have two fleets enroute to war, and a war within my system going on......I am defenseless right now. I am GMT -5 and they said I will be back at 3 GMT....what time is that for me??

Also, you guys close to each other.....why not waste a few destroyers sending them at each other to boost levels?? One destroyer sent at me right now would give me 433 PPs via the level upgrade SU and a bar boost on robotic factories....nice trade off.

Anyway....would that be 10PM?? I just now got home from work, and I wasn't even home at 10 PM??????? THIS SUCKS!!! I had a few hours left before my first week ended, and I needed only two points to make it into the top fifty for points in a week. I planned to jack up the research labs, and then hit my quickest sciences....this sucks.



:( :( :( :(

justletmein
01/07/2004, 12:09 AM
I've never had a flood warning before and have had up to 3 windows open at a time.

I think 3 GMT would work out to be 18:00 for you.

srit1
01/07/2004, 12:09 AM
lol - yes 10pm for you sammy - they should freeze everything IMO

say u got a warning about 100 incoming.. if they get frozen but u accumulate points you could up SB and turn the tide on the battle