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Frankysreef
10/01/2003, 01:32 PM
Hi all , I have a 135 gal reef tank.

150 lbs live rock ( big wall with tons of caves... very cool )
2 175 mh 10k
2 vho blue
30 gal sump w/ 50 lbs aragonite sand
aqua 2 skimmer
multiple powerheads

Water parms
78 deg
1.024 sal
9 dkh
3.43 alk
450 calc
ph 8.2
ammo 0
nitrate 0

current inhabitants
1 hawaian red fern plant
some halimeda
lobophytum
sarcophytum
lotsa hairy mushrooms
some zooanthids
some button polyps
euphyllia's ( torch and frogspawn )
a frag acropora ( went from brown to green tips the other day !)
( got it for 6 bucks )
a pistol shrimp ( came off a rock )
a cb shrimp

fish
blue tang, rabbitfish, 2 dwarf angels, and 1 brazilain gramma

very peaceful tank, everybody leaves each other alone

Here is what I am thinking...

1 flasher wrasse
1 naso tang? ( I have tons of macroalgae, the red fern is huge )
1 copperband butterfly ( I have tons of life all over the rock , amphipods, copepods, wormy looking shrimp with big legs, black worms, white worms )

What do you guys think?

I am setting up my qt system tomorrow...

And if not these suggestions, some others?

midas blenny?
firefish?

thanks

Frank

ozadars
10/02/2003, 09:14 AM
I would put more then one probably 1 male - 3 female flasher wrasses
You have two big active swimmer (rabbit and the tang) so no more tang, big angel or rabit...
Copperband is possible but very hard to make him eat something, i would prefer long nose butterfly which is much more easy and good looking i think

Frankysreef
10/02/2003, 01:19 PM
I think the naso is out...

If I can find a copperband that eats at the lfs that would be good.

It is hard to find female flashers sometimes...

F

ozadars
10/02/2003, 02:07 PM
Maybe you can try trio of gramma, 6line wrasse or chromis instead of flashers?

Frankysreef
10/02/2003, 06:10 PM
It has been my experience of 2 or more of the same species of fish will usually fight, sometimes to the death.

the flashers in the us are 19.99 - 35 dollars a piece here... so I really wont take that chance..

Maybe 1 flasher, and 1 copperband and a midas blenny to round things out.

F

ozadars
10/03/2003, 09:30 AM
Frankyfish, the fight is about the kind of the fish these fish that i listed wont find? What fish did u tried, probably firefish?

Tarasco1
10/03/2003, 12:07 PM
Franky-

where are you finding $20 flasher's in newport? I'm looking into getting some myself.

If you want to avoid fighting, get a male and a female or two. Try to avoid mixing males.

Frankysreef
10/03/2003, 04:04 PM
they were on sale at jeff's exotic fish a few weeks ago...

http://www.exoticfish.com/

just sign up for the fish club and they will email you the specials...

But sadly they arent on sale any more...

I just started my qtine tank back up, so no fish for 2 weeks for me...

But the qtine is soooo nice... I havent lost one fish since I started using it.

F

Frankysreef
10/03/2003, 04:06 PM
ozodar...

I had 2 male flashers some time ago...

And they fought until the stronger one won, and killed the other.

I tried to get 1 male and 1 female... ffexpress screwed up the order and sent me 2 males...

But the one flasher lived a long time, till an unforeseen incident...

F

Tarasco1
10/03/2003, 04:11 PM
Yeah, I live near Jeff's. I was out there a couple of weekends ago, and they only had one flasher for sale for $25. The problem with only 1 flasher is that they don't "flash" as much. You need females around to keep their coloring good, and for their best personality. Sometimes they flash when they see their reflection, though.

I dunno about the copperband, you'll probably have a hard time finding one that'll feed in a LFS. Your tank is certainly big enough for him, though, to pick stuff off of the rocks.

ozadars
10/03/2003, 04:45 PM
You should select the female ones... Also i dont know much about flassher wrasses but Maybe you can try trio of gramma, 6line wrasse or chromis instead of flashers?

Frankysreef
10/04/2003, 04:08 PM
My old flasher would flash at my gramma all the time...

GreenGoblin
10/04/2003, 08:14 PM
hmm if that were mine i would add:
1 or 2 false perc clowns
firefish
and a royal gamma