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Scuba_Dave
07/17/2003, 08:19 PM
Just trying to see if there is enough interest. The last thread on Ushio vs Ab stirred some interest.

This would be a group buy thru a local LFS (he did the last AB grp buy). They need 12 bulbs of each type to get the deal.

I myself would be interested in (2) 250 AB 10k (13k) mogul bulbs.
Anyone else interested post here & we'll see if we have enough to make an order. If not I can wait & we'll try again.

This would be limited to local people (BRS & CARS), pu to be arranged.

The reason I won't buy this bulb from Hellolights:

HelloLights does not warrant any Aqua Medic "AB" metal halide bulb(s) per Aquamedic policy, not ours. Please read the following if you plan on purchasing an AB bulb from us OR if you have a bad Aqua Medic bulb purchased from us.

eddiem
07/17/2003, 08:26 PM
I might be interested in 2 depending on the price.

I was just looking at them. HelloLights has them for $79
http://www.hellolights.com/2510aqabcom.html

Reef-lite
07/17/2003, 10:11 PM
We can't discuss price here, but if it's the same pricing as last time I don't think you'll find a better deal. I bought two last time and I'm debating whether I should stalk up on some extras.

moe_k
07/17/2003, 10:23 PM
Do these folks make a 400 Watt bulb that'll fit in my (Brd1's old) mogul socket driven by a PFO tar ballast?
I may be interested in stocking up. Especially if the deal is done with the local guy. :p

RobboT
07/17/2003, 10:38 PM
Ditto what Moe said . . .

Moe are you in need of a bulb right away? I have a couple spares

Spudds
07/18/2003, 01:06 AM
I would be interested in one.

Spudds.

Scuba_Dave
07/18/2003, 08:57 AM
Ok, what we need is 12 of each kind - wattage & mogul or DE. So you need to specify the wattage 175, 250, maybe 400 etc. & type. I'll try to check to see what they have.

I listed 250w 10k (13k) as subject line but this can be 400w if there is a total of 12 400w bulbs ordered

Order so Far:
Dave.................(2) 250w mogul
Sea Serpent......(2) 250w mogul
Eddiem (2) ?
Moe (?) 400w mogul - if it works
RobboT (?) ?
Spudds (1) ?

Does anyone have any personal experience firing an AB on different ballasts?

This is for Boston Reefers Society & CARS members - you must be able to pu or arrange pu.

So far info: from pfo:
http://www.pfolighting.com/aqwebsite/BulbBallastCombination.htm
AB Bulbs: (Aqualine Buske)
They work on the HQI ballasts. Sometimes the fire on a standard ballast and sometimes they don't. Check with AB to confirm ballast design

So far I have only seen listings for 175 & 250, still looking

Sea Serpent
07/18/2003, 09:13 AM
I would be interested in 2 250 10K AB mogul bulbs. (I don't really need them now, but I will in a few months and would like to keep a few on hand)

I participated in the last group buy on these bulbs (from our local guy) and was VERY pleased with price/quality/timing/shipping.

skyedolphan
07/18/2003, 09:28 AM
I am interested in 2x 400 13 k mogul

Reef-lite
07/18/2003, 09:31 AM
You can take me off the list. My eyes are bigger than my wallet.

BTW, it's great to see that we're trying really hard to limit ourselves to one group buy per month. ;) heheh ..

Scuba_Dave
07/18/2003, 10:12 AM
Ok, there are listings for 400w AB's, so as long as we get enough people to order 12 of them we are all set

AB = Aqualine Buske = bluer then the Ushio 10k

Armando
07/18/2003, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by skyedolphan
I am interested in 2x 400 13 k mogul

who makes the 400 13k? How blue is it?

eddiem
07/18/2003, 10:30 AM
I 'm interested in 2 250 watt 10K Mogul

Pyrojon
07/18/2003, 12:52 PM
Put me on the list for a pair of 250W AB standard Mogul base.

Thanks

Scuba_Dave
07/18/2003, 12:58 PM
UPDATE Ok, what we need is 12 of each kind - wattage & mogul or DE. So you need to specify the wattage 175, 250, maybe 400 etc. & type. I'll try to check to see what they have.

I listed 250w 10k (13k) as subject line but this can be 400w if there is a total of 12 400w bulbs ordered

Order so Far:
Dave.................(2) 250w mogul
Sea Serpent......(2) 250w mogul
Eddiem ............(2) 250w mogul
Pyrojon ............(2) 250w mogul

Skydolphan (2) 400w mogul
Moe (?) 400w mogul - if it works
RobboT (?) ?
Spudds (1) ?

Does anyone have any personal experience firing an AB on different ballasts?

This is for Boston Reefers Society & CARS members - you must be able to pu or arrange pu.
This will stay open for a while to see who is interested & give everyone a chance to get in.

So far info: from pfo:
http://www.pfolighting.com/aqwebsite/BulbBallastCombination.htm
AB Bulbs: (Aqualine Buske)
They work on the HQI ballasts. Sometimes the fire on a standard ballast and sometimes they don't. Check with AB to confirm ballast design

Armando
07/18/2003, 01:07 PM
Dave,

I'll be OK with the current bulbs for now. But good job putting this and other buys together. I vote for you as our official "Group Buys Coordinator"! :D

Willistein
07/18/2003, 03:02 PM
I would be interested in (1) 175 AB 10K if it is possible. I can pick up, just let me know where...

Dan

RobboT
07/18/2003, 07:06 PM
RobboT = 1 - 400W mogul base

matt-davis sq.
07/19/2003, 08:45 AM
I'll take two, 250W Aqualine 2xEnd/HQI bulbs, but I don't see any other interest,

Matt:cool:

Scuba_Dave
07/21/2003, 09:13 AM
Bumpin back up

UPDATE Ok, what we need is 12 of each kind - wattage & mogul or DE. So you need to specify the wattage 175, 250, maybe 400 etc. & type. I'll try to check to see what they have.

I listed 250w 10k (13k) as subject line but this can be 400w if there is a total of 12 400w bulbs ordered

Order so Far:
Dave.................(2) 250w mogul
Sea Serpent......(2) 250w mogul
Eddiem ............(2) 250w mogul
Pyrojon ............(2) 250w mogul

Total:................8 250w moguls


Matt davis sq......(2) 250w DE


Skydolphan (2) 400w mogul
Moe (?) 400w mogul - if it works
RobboT (1) 400w mogul
Spudds (1) ?

Willistein (1) 175w AB 10k mogul

Does anyone have any personal experience firing an AB on different ballasts?

This is for Boston Reefers Society & CARS members - you must be able to pu or arrange pu.
This will stay open for a while to see who is interested & give everyone a chance to get in.

So far info: from pfo:
http://www.pfolighting.com/aqwebsite/BulbBallastCombination.htm
AB Bulbs: (Aqualine Buske)
They work on the HQI ballasts. Sometimes the fire on a standard ballast and sometimes they don't. Check with AB to confirm ballast design

Willistein
07/21/2003, 09:53 AM
yeah, mogul

eddiem
07/21/2003, 03:51 PM
I was just made aware of a few people having problems running these bulbs on the same ballast I have (Hamilton Tar Ballast). Apparently the bulbs don't always fire...and sometimes shut off prematurely. Therefor, I am going to have to hold off.

I really wish I had an HQI or Pulse start ballast :(

Spudds
07/21/2003, 09:50 PM
I have a CSL prism pendant, I spent some time trying to figure out if these bulbs will fire on the ballast. Anyone have any idea? I even went as far as to check out the CSL website and they do not mention. On the socket it says "4-kV pulse rated triboro" or something to that effect. I imagine this means the ballast is a pulse (in addition to the fact that CSL is an American company) but I'm not sure why it would specify the ballast type on the socket. Thoughts? Think the bulb will fire on my ballast? If so, I would like a 250w mogul bulb.

Spudds.

JeremyR
07/22/2003, 12:24 AM
All the sockets will say pulse rated.. that has nothing to do with the ballast. Basically, *some* of the 175's are finicky, very few of the 250's are, and the 400's seem even less so. The vast majority of the finicky ones quit being finicky after they burn in. Aquamedic is pretty good about replacing lamps that refuse to fire. If all that bothers you.. ushios work fine.. just not quite as nice as the AB's.

Scuba_Dave
07/23/2003, 09:56 AM
Not enough for an order yet....

UPDATE Ok, what we need is 12 of each kind - wattage & mogul or DE. So you need to specify the wattage 175, 250, maybe 400 etc. & type. I'll try to check to see what they have.

I listed 250w 10k (13k) as subject line but this can be 400w if there is a total of 12 400w bulbs ordered

Order so Far:
Dave.................(2) 250w mogul (maybe one spare too)
Sea Serpent......(2) 250w mogul
Pyrojon ............(2) 250w mogul
Deanp..............(2) 250w mogul
Spudds ...........(1) 250w mogul

Total:................9 or 10 250w moguls

Matt davis sq......(2) 250w DE

Skydolphan (2) 400w mogul
Moe (?) 400w mogul - if it works
RobboT (1) 400w mogul

Willistein (1) 175w AB 10k mogul

Scuba_Dave
07/24/2003, 11:53 AM
UPDATE Ok, what we need is 12 of each kind - wattage & mogul or DE. So you need to specify the wattage 175, 250, maybe 400 etc. & type. I'll try to check to see what they have.

I listed 250w 10k (13k) as subject line but this can be 400w if there is a total of 12 400w bulbs ordered

Order so Far:
Dave.................(2) 250w mogul (maybe one spare)
Sea Serpent......(2) 250w mogul
Pyrojon ............(2) 250w mogul
Deanp..............(2) 250w mogul
Spudds ...........(1) 250w mogul

Total:................9 250w moguls

Matt davis sq......(2) 250w DE

Skydolphan (2) 400w mogul
Moe (?) 400w mogul - if it works
Jeremy said the 400 will work for you Moe
RobboT (1) 400w mogul

Will not be able to place order for 175 unless we
have more interest

Willistein (1) 175w AB 10k mogul

Looking at confirmation from everyone to place this order. Please post here or respond to PM/E-mail that I will be sending.

Once everyone confirms I will let Jeremy know & post info on who/how to pay. Please DO NOT post any reference to pricing on any thread. Thanx

Sea Serpent
07/24/2003, 12:21 PM
I'm still in for 2 250 mogul AB 10K bulbs. Just tell me where to send $ . . . . Can I use paypal?

Willistein
07/24/2003, 12:59 PM
Don't worry about the 175W, I see there won't be enough interest.

Dan

Scuba_Dave
07/24/2003, 01:51 PM
DeanP - reduce order to (1) only

Pyrojon
07/24/2003, 03:38 PM
I'm still in for 2 AB 250W Mogul

Scuba_Dave
07/24/2003, 04:00 PM
Jeremy wants to order Friday, I would like to confirm all tonite if possible. Waiting on 3 people.
He will order all of the bulbs except the 175's - unless there is a last minute rush to order more 175's
(Willistein (1) 175w AB 10k mogul ) sorry Willistein

Order so Far:
Dave.................(2) 250w mogul (and maybe one spare)
Sea Serpent......(2) 250w mogul
Pyrojon ............(2) 250w mogul
Deanp..............(2) 250w mogul
Spudds ...........(1) 250w mogul......... waiting on confirmation

Total:................9 250w moguls

250 DE
Matt davis sq......(2) 250w DE

400w
Skydolphan (2) 400w mogul ............... waiting on confirmation
Moe (?) 400w mogul ...................... waiting on confirmation
Jeremy said the 400 will work for you Moe
RobboT (1) 400w mogul

Total (4)? 400w mogul

Willistein
07/24/2003, 04:11 PM
no prob

Scuba_Dave
07/24/2003, 09:50 PM
Jeremy wants to order Friday, I would like to confirm all by noon tomorrow if possible. Waiting on 2 people.
He will order all of the bulbs except the 175's - unless there is a last minute rush to order more 175's
(Willistein (1) 175w AB 10k mogul ) sorry Willistein

Order so Far:
Dave.................(3) 250w mogul (added one spare)
Sea Serpent......(2) 250w mogul ........confirmed
Pyrojon ............(2) 250w mogul ........confirmed
Deanp..............(2) 250w mogul ........confirmed
Spudds ...........(1) 250w mogul......... waiting on confirmation

Total:................10 250w moguls

250 DE
Matt davis sq......(2) 250w DE ........confirmed
Seasno ........(3) 250w DE.........confirmed

400w
RobboT (1) 400w mogul confirmed

Moe (?) 400w mogul ...................... waiting on confirmation
Jeremy said the 400 will work for you Moe

Total (2) 400w mogul

Hey Moe, Hey Moe!! Spudds where are you!!??

seasno
07/24/2003, 09:58 PM
Dave:

I will take three 250w AB 10k DE if you are still looking for orders?

Craig

Pinkskunk
07/25/2003, 06:24 AM
Pinkskunk here:

i am looking for (1) 400W mogul (for my PFO ballast). Can you tell me how much? Please PM me if price are not allowed in public.


Also please tell me how much for the 250 Mogul.


Thanks.

Scuba_Dave
07/25/2003, 07:34 AM
Pinkskunk, sent you a PM

For anyone else: we want to place order at about noon, let me know before then. Again, this is for local BRS & CARS members.
Thanx

Scuba_Dave
07/25/2003, 10:21 AM
Jeremy wants to order Friday, I would like to confirm all by noon Friday. Waiting on 1 person
He will order all of the bulbs except the 175's - unless there is a last minute rush to order more 175's
(Willistein (1) 175w AB 10k mogul ) sorry Willistein

Order so Far:
Dave.................(3) 250w mogul (added one spare)
Sea Serpent......(2) 250w mogul ........confirmed
Pyrojon ............(2) 250w mogul ........confirmed
Deanp..............(2) 250w mogul ........confirmed
Spudds ...........(1) 250w mogul......... confirmed

Total:................10 250w moguls

250 DE
Matt davis sq......(2) 250w DE ........confirmed
Seasno ........(3) 250w DE.........confirmed

Total ..............5 ...250w DE

400w
RobboT (1) 400w mogul confirmed

Moe (?) 400w mogul .................................. waiting on confirmation
Jeremy said the 400 will work for you Moe

Total (2?) 400w mogul

Tobyt
07/29/2003, 09:16 AM
Please put me down for (2) 250W 10K AB mogul bulbs. Jeremy?

Scuba_Dave
07/29/2003, 09:45 AM
I'll PM Jeremy to see a status on this & how many "extra" bulbs he ordered. I have one "spare" that I ordered if there aren't enough.
Please note, I have had Ken2001 PM me prior to this to add to order, so he is 1st in line.
DeanP decreased his order to 1 from 2 so we do have 2 "extra" bulbs not including any extras Jereremy ordered.

Ken2001
07/29/2003, 10:05 AM
Dave,

Thanks for setting this up -- I'm glad to have been able to get in on it. BTW, as you may have guessed since I'm in on this, I was able to repair my balasts over the weekend and have light again in the tank.

Ken

Scuba_Dave
07/29/2003, 11:41 AM
Jeremy just sent me a PM, he will let me know once the bulbs are in & at that time setup access/payment. He also said that he shoudl have enough 250w bulbs for Toby. I'll post again once they are in.

Tobyt
07/30/2003, 07:50 PM
Thanks!

Originally posted by Scuba_Dave
Jeremy just sent me a PM, he will let me know once the bulbs are in & at that time setup access/payment. He also said that he shoudl have enough 250w bulbs for Toby. I'll post again once they are in.

Scuba_Dave
08/01/2003, 08:57 AM
Order UP! BIG Thanks to Jeremy!! :D

He sent me a PM, and I have sent PM's to everyone that placed & confirmed their order.
You were only sent the link to the bulb you ordered. The order is sold out (at present), so please do not forward to anyone.

I am going to CRA on Saturday to PU mu bulbs. Let me know if anyone wants me to PU theirs at the same time (you pay!).

I work in Wellesley, live on South Shore, wife works at World Trade Ctr. Let me know!

Scuba_Dave
08/01/2003, 09:59 AM
Ok, I'm resending the links, or try again

Links seem to be working, resent them

Ken2001
08/03/2003, 04:00 PM
Wow, these lights are great -- Bought em yesterday, lit them up today, what a difference! I'm very happy with these. Thanks Dave, and thanks CRA, for setting this up.

Ken

RobboT
08/03/2003, 05:23 PM
Got mine yesterday (400W) curious to know what color everyone gets and what ballast they use, even on the 250Ws. Mine is very yellow and although I like it very much it's not what I expected from a 13000K bulb.

Anyone have any 55W Actinic PCs (square pin) they want to unload?

Scuba_Dave
08/03/2003, 07:12 PM
Thanks Jeremy!!

I put mine in yesterday, it's my understanding that they can tale 100 hours to properly burn in. I have mine on a PFO HQI ballast - mogul. I did a side by side (before purchase) vs Ushio & like the AB better.
Packaging lists 10,000k & 13,000k kinda confusing. I like them better then the Ushio. Time will tell.

Craig I have your bulbs.

Ken2001
08/03/2003, 08:17 PM
I'm running them on a Hamilton 250 TAR (I think it's TAR - they're not electronic) ballasts. I also have a pair of 40w NO actinics. This is the fourth set of lights I have run on these ballast - and in fact, these are the same as the ones I started out with. I'm really pleased to come back to what I started with.

Before this, I was running Iwasakis 6500K, which give a yellow light, as though I'd poured beer in the tank. Before the Iwasakis I ran a pair of Belgium 10Ks I bought from Inland Reef, which were very (too) blue, very little yellow. The colour I'm getting from the ABs is what I'm most pleased with, so I hope the colour doesn't change too much with burn in.

Ken

JeremyR
08/03/2003, 10:36 PM
In both the ushio and AB the 400w are more yellow than the 250 and 175w, but the AB is generally whiter than the ushio.

Pyrojon
08/05/2003, 04:45 PM
Thanks Dave and Jeremy, I picked my bulbs up this weekend. I am sure that I will be as happy with these bulbs as my last set of ABs. Can't beat the price! :)