helppp here we go agin!!!!!!

[myth]

not agin,,hi all i got a problem please dont bash me..i have a 30 gallon cube as you can see..tonight when i got home i have webs on my kenya tree..the last few days it has looked sickley it kind of turned white not bleached like powdery and now it has webs on it and a fish my 6 yearold got me for mothers day is looking bad its a sailfin tang..now i know my tank is to small for this fish but i didnt have the heart to tell her and i figured i would upgrade to a bigger tank to keep this fish she got me..the fish is loosing color and getting some splits in its fins..i have enclosed pictures..i tested my water and it is a s follows ph8.2 ammonia0 nitrite0 nitrate0 i use a test kit called saltwater masters by aquarium phar. the others in the tank are a maroon clown a perk clown a red lip blenny and a bengi cardnal..the only thing thats different is the tank just befor mothers day went throught a move from one room to another due to remolding the house.heres somes pictures http://www.geocities.com/myth6662001/index.html

[TragicMagic]

Hi myth,

The only thing I can think of is stray current in the tank. You may want to try a grounding probe.

Thank you,
Tony

P.S. A maroon and perc SHOULD not get along together, and if yours do, eventually the maroon will get too big and dominate the perc to death, so when you get your upgrade tank for the tang, you should split them up. Perhaps the maroon in the new big tank with the tang as it is the bigger fish.

[myth]

thanks tragic..its funny my perk and maroon sleep in the same cave..i have never seen them fight or chase..but the maroon attacks me everytime i put my hand in the tank..i have had thease two fish for about 6 months got them together ..i had a sea bay in the tank and the perk would chase the maroon around if it went near its seabay funny fish..and i will get a grounding probe tommarrow and check for stray current..thanks ..any idea aout the webs..i have seen lots of baby snails in my tank latley their the kind with no shell could they be causing the problem and if they are how do i get rid of thease things they only come out at night..

[TragicMagic]

Hi myth,

The grounding probe isn't for testing current, all it does is introduce a conductive surface, the probe, to you water column, and then ground to your power outlet. From what I understand it must be a truly grounded outlet to work properly, and it will close the circuit of current in your water and send it to the ground. I really have no experience with it, my tank has no probe, but I have read that electric current can cause the erosion on fish. Do a search for grounding probes, and read up.

As for the clowns, again I have no experience, but I love clowns and have asked about them and the consensus is eventually one will dominate the other, which will eventually be the maroon, and will likely kill the perc. You should ask around in the anemone and clownfish forum, great advice there, JHardman particularly seems to be an expert, at least he offered the most advice when I was doing my research.

I have no idea about the “webs� if you have baby snails, it could be some type of larva or something. If that is the case, it should be harmless, and provide good nutrients to your filter feeders.

Thank you,
Tony

[Casino]

My only guess as why the tangs fin is ripped is that since he is in such a small tank, he prolly miss judged a corner or something and ripped it by mistake. He dosent realize he is out growing that tank. This is also putting stress on him, this is why he is loosing color, he is letting you know he is not a happy camper. You might start to notice cuts on him if he continues to swim like that. Try to build your new tank as soon as you can. Deceide which one of the clowns you like the most, split them or give 1 of them away. I know its hard but chances are the marron will kill the perc, its in the maroons nature. As for the tree, what are your calcium, alk, and especially magnesium levels? I had the same issue with a candy cane, it grew cotton like on all polyps, cob webs, then one of the polyps got white. I took it back to my LFS cause I thought it was dead, The guy told me it wasent and placed it in his tank in the store. In 4 days it was looking much better. He tested my water for CAL, ALK...everything fine, he then told me..have you checked MAG, I had never, when he did check it was very low. I dosed MAG and in 2 weeks, the levels were up and I brought home the candy cane and its doing wonderfully. HTH.

[myth]

thanks casino for the help i have never did any of thease tests so its off to the lfs today to get them checked ..i bet my calicum is probley low too beging i dont add any additives except marine buffer..as for the sailfin..i'll start looking for a tank asap..and if i chose which clown to go it will me the devil maroon i'm tired of trying to clean the tanks with a stick to chase him away from my hands..thanks for the help you rock...