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ibnozn
12/12/2007, 05:26 PM
I have a 150w 14k pendant hanging over my 35 hex and I realize that 14000K lighting doesn't need to be supplemented with actinic. Would there be any benefit if I did it anyway?

I'm looking at these Powerbrite LEDs from Current:
http://www.current-usa.com/powerbrite.html

I have SPS growing nicely about 12" under the surface. Think one 460nm bar on each side of the tank (2 total) would be intense enough to benefit my corals? Or would these lights just help a little aesthetically and not much else?

JediReefer
12/12/2007, 05:41 PM
The blue spectrum of lighting is all aesthetic.

aquaman67
12/12/2007, 05:44 PM
I vote for not much.

I have some LEDs I keep on all the time and when the my 150 watt 14k bulb is on, you can't tell the LEDs are even on.

mg426
12/12/2007, 05:59 PM
I run some actinics over my 125. I run them with my hamilton 14ks.

acrodave
12/12/2007, 05:59 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11371274#post11371274 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JediReefer
The blue spectrum of lighting is all aesthetic.

untrue photosynthesis take place in the 420-460 nm range

Craig Lambert
12/12/2007, 06:10 PM
Some people run 14K Hamiltons or Phoenix without supplimentation. If you do suppliment, you won't need much.



<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11371274#post11371274 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JediReefer
The blue spectrum of lighting is all aesthetic.

Not so. Actinic is mostly in the 420-460nm range and provides useable light.


Part of a thread by "waterkeeper:

Our eyes are most sensitive to light in the yellow-green region centered on 555 nm. When lumens were introduced as a measurement system it was decided to use this single wavelength as the benchmark. If you use a photographer's light meter the meter is "weighted" to favor this region of light.

This is all well and good in the area of photography but not so hot when it comes to keeping things alive in a reef tank. Photosynthetic life is important in a healthy reef. Be it coralline on the live rock or zooxanthellae harbored in the coral they need light to survive. Unfortunately, light at 555 nm is not it.

Well, the entire visible spectrum plays a role in photosynthesis, it is just 555 nm is not exactly the wavelength that most algae would choose if put to a vote. If I plan to take a picture then using a regular light meter is fine. If I plan on illuminating a reef tank it tends to fall short.

One of the first lights to make headway into the world of reefing was the actinic fluorescent. Actinism is the term for light that induces chemical reactions. It just so happens that light in the region of 420-450 nm is very important to photosynthesis, a chemical reaction. Actinic lights produce much of their light at this wavelength. Actinic lighting may have been somewhat of a novelty turned important. When it first came out around the late 70's it was mainly touted as great tank lighting because in highlighted the fish. The LFS loved it and many of their SW tanks had it. If you can see a tank with just actinic lighting in use you'll see what I mean. Under actinic the water appears more transparent and fish and coral tend to stand out. Some corals even fluoresce under these lamps.

It was only after they were in use for awhile that the other benefits to a reef tank became apparent. An actinic lamp has a terrible CRI (about as bad as you can get ) but in a reef tank it adds an abundance of useable photosynthetic radiation. That, and with its ability to highlight the critters inside the tank, made it all the rage. Suddenly corals that have never been able to survive in a tank where not only surviving but growing. Actinic lighting is one of the great advancements in reef husbandry.

http://archive.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=550860&highlight=actinic+useable+light+spectrum

JediReefer
12/12/2007, 06:18 PM
You all beat me too it. I was reading a book to double check my statement and it looks like I was wrong!

Craig Lambert
12/12/2007, 06:30 PM
Probably more people think it's only aesthetic than don't. I believe the wavelength travels deeper also, so you figure that deep water acros use whatever they receive.

acrodave
12/12/2007, 06:43 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11371558#post11371558 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JediReefer
You all beat me too it. I was reading a book to double check my statement and it looks like I was wrong!

you cant learn any thing by being right all the time. I hate lipping off before i check my books. lol

JediReefer
12/12/2007, 06:45 PM
Very true haha.

snslarison
12/12/2007, 06:45 PM
I say no supplemental lighting. I dont use any.

AquaReeferMan
12/12/2007, 07:07 PM
They would help out a lot. They are very strong little lights. We put 3 strips over a 10 gallon tank and compared them to a 96w quad power compact. The PC got a reading of 375 while the LEDs were around 450 from a Milwaukee Inst. Lux Meter. A couple of them would be beneficial. It would like nice also.

twon8
12/12/2007, 08:04 PM
i run 14k 250s and use an 11k t5 as supplemental

usmc121581
12/12/2007, 08:10 PM
Even though they are 20k 250's. I still have 4 65w 420 nm actinics, That are on 12 hrs a day. I was wondering the same thing. I was thinking that I didnt need them. You barely notice that they are on when the MH's are on.

barjam
12/12/2007, 08:52 PM
Nearly 100% of the light in my tank is at 420-450nm and corals grow fine. Wait.... the horse is dead? I guess I will quit beating it then.