Neptune's 220g Build Thread

[Neptune777]

Hey folks...
Never done a build thread....but I figured now would be a good time to do one :D

It will be SPS dominated with lots of fish (Tangs/Angels/etc. etc.) I am doing a custom rock job that will be along the lines of a sunken Polynesian ruin with hollow Tiki heads on either end of the tank that will have shallow sand beds inside for a couple wrasses (rest of the tank will be bare bottom)...for fun each of the Tikis will light up from the inside with Green or Blue LEDs (Just for kicks during RRC gatherings :D ) Sounds tacky but I hope it will look kinda cool when completed.

Flow in the system will be provided by a dart/oceans motions, 2 Vortechs, and the return.

Lighting to start will be 3 400w 20k XMs with Actinic suppliments.

Aside from the main Reef I will have my 30g cube connected and sitting on the cabinet to the side. This will be a micromussa display with a special fish of some kind (TBD)



First,
Here is the plan for the system (some minor modifications will be made as I go along).

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984schematic-med.jpg


I will start taking pics to post this evening...

[LB]

Dang I don't have a fancy diagram? I told you THIS IS NOT A CONTEST!!!!!





:D

[Neptune777]

How long has it taken you and I to get these tanks done? :D Atlantis moved locations and set up entire store during this time period I think!

By no means a contest ;)

[Neptune777]

Also, for those who don't know this tank was purchased used last summer. I believe it was bblair's setup previously. Never met em' but heard good things and saw pics of the tank in his gallery...looked awesome!

[LB]

you should just pull up bblair's build thread and pretend your already done :D

We definantley should get some sort of slow trophy for our efforts!!!

"Blame it on the kids"

[J. Montgomery]

. . . and I thought Jason was slow with his "I'm working on setting up a 75". Ya'll two make him look like Speedy Gonzalez.

[LB]

Neptune I have bblairs thread saved,from when I was thinking of buying that tank,if you want it.I just do'nt remember how to post a usable link?

[Hopeful Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11320595#post11320595 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by J. Montgomery
. . . and I thought Jason was slow with his "I'm working on setting up a 75". Ya'll two make him look like Speedy Gonzalez.

And if the darn 30g tank I was running hadn't sprung a leak and forced my hand, my signature would probably still say "I'm working on setting up a 75"... :D :lol2:

Nice mock up...can't wait to start seeing things build up...I wasn't even aware that Bill had gotten out of the hobby...I got a bunch of stuff from him that is working in my 75g right now...and I was due some of his corals as frags too...oh well...

Now then...where are them pics you promised...I don't see them yet... ;)

[mr294]

Looking forward to following this one :thumsbup:

[Hopeful Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11321418#post11321418 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mr294
Looking forward to following this one :thumsbup:

Hmmm...maybe I should finish my college degree after all so I can learn to spell...did they teach that in engineering schul? :lol: ;)

[Neptune777]

Here is the boring (and PITA) portion... I installed 2 x 20A circuits for this system...and the plumbing. One thing I hate with my 120gal is the electrical set up (something I aimed at correcting with this new tank). This will be hidden behind the stand.

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984DSCN0565.JPG

[Hopeful Reefer]

Nice and clean looking...are you running those outlets off of switches somewhere else in the house? Or are you gonna put in more switches and timers for your equipment? Are there any GFCI's in the mix?

[mr294]

I like the switchplate with the RO coming through :D

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11322273#post11322273 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Hopeful Reefer
Nice and clean looking...are you running those outlets off of switches somewhere else in the house? Or are you gonna put in more switches and timers for your equipment? Are there any GFCI's in the mix?


The equipment will all be plugged into rocker panels (they came with the tank). One 20A breaker is GFCI (for less critical items).

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11322372#post11322372 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mr294
I like the switchplate with the RO coming through :D


:beer:

It's one of coaxial cable plates. I saw it when I was buying stuff for the new circuits and thought it would be a nice way to run my my RO line....I likey!

[Neptune777]

I have tomorrow off from work, and the day is dedicated to working on the 220g ..... I will take tons of pics and post as I go along. :D

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11320658#post11320658 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LB
Neptune I have bblairs thread saved,from when I was thinking of buying that tank,if you want it.I just do'nt remember how to post a usable link?

Hey LB,
That would be handy...just copy and paste the URL into a post in this thread.

[rick s]

Here is the link to Bill's thread:
http://archive.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=785302

[Neptune777]

Thanks Rick! That was a good read...cool to see it in action with it's previous owner. I only hope I can do justice to what Bill managed to do with it.

[Charlie Davidson]

Tag... just don't want to miss any ;)

[LB]

Man,Rick I was going to show off my new highly technical computer skill(that any 6 year old can do),and post that link?Thanks Alot!! :D

I thought you might like that neptune,I went back to it many times when I was deciding on a tank.Then charlie tricked me into buying this goldfishbowl!!:thumbsup:

[Neptune777]

Don't let LB fool you with his pretend lack of computer savvy... This is him in his spare time...minus the hat :D

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984nerd.gif

[LB]

How did you get a pic of my mom!!!!:mad2:



For real though that's not me I don't smoke!!!



Man, that was pretty good,I almost spit my beer out I was laughing so hard :D

[rick s]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11329003#post11329003 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LB
Man,Rick I was going to show off my new highly technical computer skill(that any 6 year old can do),and post that link?Thanks Alot!! :D Sorry LB. The next time Brandon is stuck on one of his engineering algorithms, I'll hold back so you can help him out. :)

[Neptune777]

Here is a shot of the Oceans Motions 4-Way with a Dart in the background. When I first plugged the OM in it didn't spin so I had to take the whole thing apart to see what was wrong.....turns out I got a drip of PVC glue in there and it jammed the inner spinning drum. It was easy to remove and it worked perfectly afterwards!

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984DSCN0604.JPG




Here are my two drains in the sump. The lower valve goes to the return pump and chiller. The upper one is a drain for water changes. The drain will be connected to a pump to do quick draining.

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984DSCN0607.JPG


Here are the two overflow pipes with ball valves. One goes directly into the skimmer and the other just drains into the sump.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984DSCN0606.JPG


Here is the line into the skimmer:
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984DSCN0608-med.JPG


Here is the tank being filled to test all the bulkheads and unions for leaks. Only a couple found and fixed:
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984DSCN0609.JPG


More to come later!

[LB]

I guess that looks good,if your into getting a bunch of work done in one day!!! I do feel however you may be rushing the job somewhat :D

For real, I like the 4 way and dart in such a small area (looks alot cleaner than others I've seen!

What's with all the white pipes?????


Hay, If you would hurry up and finish I could schedule you for some time over here, Just a thought :D

[LB]

What size deltec did you go with?

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11337063#post11337063 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LB
I guess that looks good,if your into getting a bunch of work done in one day!!! I do feel however you may be rushing the job somewhat :D

For real, I like the 4 way and dart in such a small area (looks alot cleaner than others I've seen!

What's with all the white pipes?????


Hay, If you would hurry up and finish I could schedule you for some time over here, Just a thought :D



White and purple!!! :D Man I can't keep that primer from dripping...

[Neptune777]

AP702

[Neptune777]

Anyone using LDPE containers for top off water or storing fresh salt water? I am trying to decide what to use for these containers....

[LB]

I have two 20 gal(I think) from agri supply not sure if there ldpe.One that has a high-low auto-top off so that I make 15or so gal of ro-di at once to offset TDS creep,this one feeds the tank.The other for salt. The two combined works nicely as I only add salt before changes,this leaves me with 40 gal of salt of fresh if needed.The guy that came up with auto top-off I hope is a millionaire.The 90 now that it's in the kitchen has to be top off the old fashion way. What a pita Its' been so long I don't know why I even had a tank when I used to lug water everday!!!

[mr294]

This is going to be an awesome setup :eek:

[Neptune777]

Thanks Brandon :)

Any progress on the Elos?

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11338247#post11338247 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LB
I have two 20 gal(I think) from agri supply not sure if there ldpe.One that has a high-low auto-top off so that I make 15or so gal of ro-di at once to offset TDS creep,this one feeds the tank.The other for salt. The two combined works nicely as I only add salt before changes,this leaves me with 40 gal of salt of fresh if needed.The guy that came up with auto top-off I hope is a millionaire.The 90 now that it's in the kitchen has to be top off the old fashion way. What a pita Its' been so long I don't know why I even had a tank when I used to lug water everday!!!


I'm thinking of sticking 2 20g High tanks in the cabinet. Anyone know if they are tempered glass?

LB- Which top off system did you go with?

[Hopeful Reefer]

Looks great so far...maybe I should replumb my system and have you do the plumbing!! :D

As for Auto Top-Off, I recommend Aquahub dot com...I used them for my build, and I really like the setup...they give you everything you need, including the MJ600, 1/2 OD tubing, wires, floats, float holder, electric project box, relay, etc...I got the premium pack...I think, or is it the delux? It was $49...great setup...

They also now have a system for hydroponic plants...surge system for $79...wonder if it would work with a MJ1200 as a wavemaker system...would be neat to try...

[mr294]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11340790#post11340790 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Neptune777
Thanks Brandon :)

Any progress on the Elos?

Picked up a small ultra max, one of the new ORA deepwater frags and the first fish went in last night :eek: Just waiting on my background to show up, but that should be any day.

[mr294]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11340800#post11340800 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Neptune777
I'm thinking of sticking 2 20g High tanks in the cabinet. Anyone know if they are tempered glass?

LB- Which top off system did you go with?

I don't believe they bother with tempering on 20g's but the LFS should have an AGA catalog which will tell you for sure on each tank size.

[JMBoehling]

Dave,

Looking real good my friend!

Later,

Jim

[LB]

I use this reefanatic on my 20 gal vat and a coralvue on the sump



http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=RF-RFLC&Category_Code=Dosers

[Neptune777]

Yesterday I picked up my bulbs, Phosban reactors, and I am also going to replace all my RO/DI filter cartridges.

Today I finished the plumbing outdoors for the return pump and chiller. Currently they are both recirculating a 5 gallon bucket of vinegar to get them all spiffy for the new tank.

I also did more rock work...will need to continue this part tomorrow.

I also managed to paint the bottom of the tank today (black) since I am going bare bottom and I like the black look:

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984DSCN0596-med.JPG

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984DSCN0595-med.JPG

[LB]

:thumbsup:

[Neptune777]

This is what I plan on using for my auto top-off:

http://autotopoff.com/products/DS1/index.htm

It will turn on an aqua lifter and feed water through my Kalk stirrer.

I decided to use 2 20gal High aquariums for my top off and mixed salt.

[Hopeful Reefer]

How wide is that tank? Is everything gonna be under the tank or is that space at a premium? What are ya using as your sump?

[Neptune777]

The tank is 24" wide. bblair had the stand built extra wide to fit the custom sump...I have over 4 square feet of available space next to the sump (which is where I am putting the top-off and salt tanks). There is also another cabinet to the right of the main stand that will hold my ballasts and other items.

[Neptune777]

My last day off I managed to get the following completed:

- Added a check valve to the return line to prevent a siphon from the tank during a power loss (plus some ball valves and unions for maintenance of the check valve)

- Cleaned the canopy and fixed some loose screws

- Cleaned the side cabinet

- Added supports under the tank in the crawl space

- Finished all plumbing for the chiller and return pump

- Opened my galaxy ballasts only to realize I need a proprietary cord for each in order to connect my MH's. Grrrrrrrr Ordered them today from Marine Depot.

- Replaced the missing exhaust fan in the canopy (which has 4)

- Added a RO/Di drain line connection to my sewer line.

- Tonight I finish my rock work... I'll take some pictures later.

[twon8]

i suggest ditching the check valve, it will eventually stick open; use a siphon break above the water level in the return pipe

[Neptune777]

Hi Anthony,
I was going to do that but I don't like the salt spray the siphon break creates. I added unions on either side of the check valve so I can pull it and do routine maintenance to keep it functional. Hopefully it will work OK... :)

[twon8]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11356360#post11356360 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Neptune777
Hi Anthony,
I was going to do that but I don't like the salt spray the siphon break creates. I added unions on either side of the check valve so I can pull it and do routine maintenance to keep it functional. Hopefully it will work OK... :)

salt spray is preferable to salty floors...

how often do you plan to clean it? I suspect you'll likely have to replace it often, if it is the one with the rubber seal. since it is open all the time due to the return being operational it tends to stay in that position.

[Neptune777]

I'll drill a couple holes just below the water line for insurance...I am determined not to have salt spray with this setup. :D

Did you have one Anthony?

[J. Montgomery]

I'm not sure that you really need any type of anti-siphoning safeguards, 220 gallons isn't really that much if you think about it . . . nothing Bounty couldn't take care of, it's the quilted quicker picker-upper!

On a serious note though, consider where your check valve is located and how easy it will be to take it off and clean it. If its going to take some effort to get to it, then you're less likely to clean it. Anthony does have a good point, that rubber and salt water do not go well together.

[Neptune777]

It's very accessible. But like I said I am putting some holes in the pipe as well (under water). Should be fine...no worries.

Onto another topic...I finished the rock work tonight!!! I went for something really different on this one and I think I did it. Many might not like it but I think it looks kind of cool...going to look really good covered with lots o' SPS ;)

[33g]

Your tank looks great, cant wait to see the completed product.

[LB]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11357915#post11357915 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Neptune777
It's very accessible. But like I said I am putting some holes in the pipe as well (under water). Should be fine...no worries.

Onto another topic...I finished the rock work tonight!!! I went for something really different on this one and I think I did it. Many might not like it but I think it looks kind of cool...going to look really good covered with lots o' SPS ;)


Pics! :)

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11357916#post11357916 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 33g
Your tank looks great, cant wait to see the completed product.



:beer:

[xxtriggermanxx]

Did you go with the red or blue lights?

[twon8]

so lets see the tiki heads...

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11358275#post11358275 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by xxtriggermanxx
Did you go with the red or blue lights?


Blue :)

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11358295#post11358295 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by twon8
so lets see the tiki heads...


Soon... Muhaaahahahaha. :D

[gnrlee]

I have to tell you David, I give you props on the plumbing work. A job well done.

[mr294]

less talk, more pics.

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11387675#post11387675 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mr294
less talk, more pics.


I have consulted the Tiki Gods and they have spoken! "Unga Bunga...let her fill with fresh RO/DI and Tropic Marin!!!!" :D

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984tiki.gif

I will post picks as soon as it is filled :sleep:

[mr294]

http://smiliesftw.com/x/bowdown.gif

[rick s]

It's sounding great Dave! Looking forward to seeing it up and running.

[J. Montgomery]

I hope the Tiki's will save some room for their good friends the Moai
http://www.factropolis.com/uploaded_images/Easter-786539.jpg

[xxtriggermanxx]

filled yet? we are waiting!

[Neptune777]

Who wants to do the first sacrifice?

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984Tiki2_12-15-2007_4-46-44_AM.JPG


http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984Tiki3_12-15-2007_4-50-21_AM.JPG

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984Tiki1_12-15-2007_4-55-38_AM.JPG


Tanks is only 1/4 filled....pics aren't that great.

[phurst]

LOL, OMG, that's fabulous!

[xxtriggermanxx]

They are SWEEEET! can't wait to see fish in there! :thumbsup:

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11387305#post11387305 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by gnrlee
I have to tell you David, I give you props on the plumbing work. A job well done.


Thanks Jason! Beats my other tank with the pipe maze...

[JMBoehling]

All I can think of is the"Nemo" scene with "Mount Wanna Hocka Lugey".... Very intersting Dave :)

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11391645#post11391645 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JMBoehling
All I can think of is the"Nemo" scene with "Mount Wanna Hocka Lugey".... Very intersting Dave :)

Funny...hope it's not as kitschy as that :D

[mr294]

Oh man thats awesome!! http://smiliesftw.com/x/turbobowdown.gif

[J. Montgomery]

Me likey!

Is there something inside the head, like a tube?

[LB]

I guess that's ok!! If you like fancy?:rolleyes:



Looks like its goin to be very nice. Nice job!:thumbsup:

[33g]

Ive looked here on reefcentral and never really posted for a few years now and i have to say thats the most creative and coolest rockwork ive seen!great job.

[Neptune777]

Thanks everyone! :)

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11392074#post11392074 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by J. Montgomery
Me likey!

Is there something inside the head, like a tube?


There is a 4" ABS pipe cut lengthwise in half. The bottom of the head (inside) has an end cap that will have an inch or 2 of sand for a wrasse to call sleeping quarters. We'll see how it goes.

[Hopeful Reefer]

Dave, that is freeking awesome!!! Can't wait for you to get that thing up and running and host a frag meet for all of us to come see that monster!!

I too was thinking of Nemo when I saw that... :lol: Ooh ha ha ha, Ooh ha ha ha, Ooh ha ha ha, Sharkbait, Ooh ha ha!! :D

[bblair]

It de ja vu all over again!

Neptune, I can't wait to see it up and running again! I knew you bought it and I've been checking the treads to see it - come back to life!

Smart move mounting the Oceans Motions on it's side. I had to take it apart several times due to the original piston design and sand. I replaced the piston with a new design that works much better. I recommend not turning it on for a few days until all the sand settles. You'll know if it jams. Theres a large clicking sound that occurs when the magnetic coupler breaks free on every cycle. No harm is done, just annoying.

I'm sure folks are asking - why did I take it down? My biggest fear was leaving the chillers under the house- unattended or monitored. I also worried about leaking. I pulled a RO/DI hose loose once and made a mess. (Wife never saw it so don't tell her! :)

I'm thinking about putting a small tank in my office this summer.

Keep posting and good luck!

[Neptune777]

Hi Bill!
Hope I can get the same growth you experienced on your setup! Your tank looked great in your gallery ;)

[Neptune777]

Here is my fish list thus far:

Majestic, Blue Face, Imperator Angels (all already waiting for me at Atlantis :) )
Naso Tang (baby waiting at Atlantis)
Dwarf Golden Moray (waiting at Atlantis)
Achilles Tang
Chevron Tang (Already in my 120)
Flame Hawk (Already in my 120)
Yashi Hashi (Already in my Cube)
Mystery Wrasse
Potters Wrasse

That's it for now...I will most likely pick up some Atlantic Blue Tangs as well.

[LB]

Thought you might enjoy this!!! Although I'm a little late :)

<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/wnderbra/DSCN2506.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>

[LB]

By the way, that was'nt meant to be ugly !! Just a good thing to know that it comes in clear.:thumbsup:

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11397962#post11397962 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LB
By the way, that was'nt meant to be ugly !! Just a good thing to know that it comes in clear.:thumbsup:


Man I had no idea!!! Well...that will be for the next upgrade ;)

[LB]

I can't give you all my secrets!!!!!




My buddy works at a plumbing company that we share a building with and I asked him if you even needed primer? He said that they only use it because code calls for it (probably reason for purple) and that if the pipe is clean(no mud,ect) that you did'nt need primer.He also told me about the clear(last Thur.) or I would of passed it along. Good to know anyway:)

[Neptune777]

Almost full!

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984FSTiki_12-16-2007_8-52-10_AM-med.JPG

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984FSTiki3_12-16-2007_8-53-24_AM-med.JPG

[mr294]

That looks so cool, good to see someone do something different :cool:

[Hendersonracing]

very cool!!!!!!!!!!

[Neptune777]

Thanks guys! :thumbsup:

[Hopeful Reefer]

That is just awesome!! Looks like the pics came right out of a portfolio of an underwater archeological venture somewhere off the coast of South America!! :D

[twon8]

what are the teeth made out of? shells?

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11405382#post11405382 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by twon8
what are the teeth made out of? shells?


That and coral skeleton.

[commabc]

are you going to be putting sand in?

[Neptune777]

No sand on the bottom as I prefer bare bottom tanks. There will be a very small quantity of sand inside each tiki head for wrasses to sleep in (like an inch or two).

[rick s]

Dave,

It is obvious how much thought and planning you've put into this tank. All that time has surely paid off. Simply, amazing! Even without anything living in it yet! Can't wait to see it in person.

[J. Montgomery]

This thing is starting to look pretty damn cool!

How are all the inhabitants in your 125 doing after the UV exposure?

[Neptune777]

Rick/Josh,
Thanks very much! I hope it looks good all stocked :)

As far as my bulb break in the 125 it did not go to well. Things just went spiraling down after the exposure. I lost a bunch and hair algea sprouted up everywhere. I also have a ton going on so I didn't have the time to keep up with proper maintenance...so Jason from Atlantis was kind enough to hold all my living corals till I get the new system up and running. I wouldn't wish a bulb break on anyone :(

[mr294]

We need more updates...and by updates I mean pictures.

[xxtriggermanxx]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11426059#post11426059 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mr294
We need more updates...and by updates I mean pictures.

kettle black is that you? or are you the Pot? :D

[xxtriggermanxx]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11426059#post11426059 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mr294
We need more updates...and by updates I mean pictures.

kettle black is that you? or are you the Pot? :D

[mr294]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11426899#post11426899 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by xxtriggermanxx
kettle black is that you? or are you the Pot? :D

Unlike David, I have made zero progress since I last posted pictures ;)

[Neptune777]

:D I'll see if I can get some shots up tonight.

[Neptune777]

BTW I picked up some awesome fish for the new tank tonight:

Pair of baby Picasso Clowns
Show size mint Achilles Tang (Long term captive....I am in heaven!!!)
1 Dwarf Golden Moray

I took home my Baby Imperator, Naso, and a cleaner wrasse (who eats flakes BTW) earlier this week.

All fish are eating and living happily in QT (transfer will be in about 6 weeks)...

[mr294]

You need to find a better host, the pictures are taking forever to load...

[mr294]

:D

[J. Montgomery]

Wow, theres definitely a whole different league of fish to choose from with such a large tank!

[ReefEze]

hahaha this is awesome... lets some some pictures... I hope that eel decides to live in one of those heads haha

:thumbsup:

[ReefEze]

By the way, what did you make that rock out of? And did you form it in the tank and let it dry there?

Because that's how it looks...

again --> :thumbsup:

[Oldude]

Very cool and unique look. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Slipstream]

Dang man, thats AMAZING.. thats so surreal looking at that, and creepy and cool all at the same time.. Wish i could have the time or the patience to make something like that.

[Hopeful Reefer]

Brandon you are right, that picture host is sure taking a while to load even on our slow satellite connection... ;)

One thing is for sure, once the tank is up and filled with fish and a few frags you will have to host a frag swap just so everybody can come and look at the tank at the same time... :D

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11431325#post11431325 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Hopeful Reefer
Brandon you are right, that picture host is sure taking a while to load even on our slow satellite connection... ;)

One thing is for sure, once the tank is up and filled with fish and a few frags you will have to host a frag swap just so everybody can come and look at the tank at the same time... :D


Absolutely! A RRC meet will happen....but not before I get things looking a bit populated with life. ;)


As far as pics.....I've been wicked lazy (and tired so I didn't get much accomplished). I did get my salt levels up to PAR, cleaned out my CA Reactor, and picked up more equipment (drain pumps etc...)

I will get off my can this weekend and post some I promise!

[Neptune777]

ReefEze/Oldude/Slipstream: Thanks for all the kind words! :)

[michika]

Very cool! I love the heads, somewhat subtle in that they blend in, but still kind of overt and in your face. Two thumbs up for you!

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11431939#post11431939 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by michika
Very cool! I love the heads, somewhat subtle in that they blend in, but still kind of overt and in your face. Two thumbs up for you!


WOW! I am so happy that people like the heads! I was concerned that they might not go over too well.

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11428994#post11428994 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mr294
You need to find a better host, the pictures are taking forever to load...


Brandon, any luck finding some Sunburst Anthias?

[Neptune777]

Also, I was considering not using my 2 Vortechs on this system because of the glorious amount of flow the OM and Dart produces...I decided to upgrade to the new wireless wave controllers for the Vortechs to really mix things up....my Achilles and SPS will be very happy I think :D

I also have two spare wet side Vortech assemblies on the way to swap them out for routine cleaning.

[LB]

Do you have the latin name for the particular money tree that you have. It seems to be producing well!!! :D

Sounding good but a little shy on pics!

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11432246#post11432246 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LB
Do you have the latin name for the particular money tree that you have. It seems to be producing well!!! :D

Sounding good but a little shy on pics!


Sure do! It's called "Hardworkis determinationis".....very rare and hard to find these days :D


pics will be on the way...man you guys are demanding!!! ;)

[Hopeful Reefer]

Demanding? Us, demanding? Nahhhhh... ;)

I do beleive as someone said previous that must have been Mr. Kettle Black...or Mr. Pot...one of them, asking for the pics... :D

[Neptune777]

On a side note for everyone my QT sessions will incorporate the following:

- QT tank is a 55gal Kit from Walmart (Included tank/hood/filter/heater). They are cheap and effective.
- Six week duration. ALL FISH: No excuses
- Hyposalinity
- Prazipro for External Flukes
- Food containing praziquantel (Which is in Prazipro but will handle internal parasites this way), metronidazole, and levamisole for a shotgun treatment of all the most common intestinal worms and parasites. Jungle makes this product and it's called Anti-Parasite. These drugs are the real deal and most often used by vets to treat for these issues.

Since 99% of the fish available are wild caught I feel this QT session is necessary. Going back to my reptile keeping/breeding days It was mandatory to treat for internal and external parasites to ensure your animals live a longer happier life, and increase the chances of breeding. (The drugs listed above were used for them as well). Wild animals (they all have parasites...trust me) kept in enclosed systems will cause parasite populations with direct life cycles to climb exponentially. Treating before introduction will help me to get a head start...

IMO most fish deaths that do not show any visible external signals can in most cases be attributed to internal parasites consuming nourishment (tapeworms), or consuming blood and body tissue (flukes, protozoans, hookworms, roundworms etc.). Ever wonder why your seemingly healthy fish just up and dies one day....I would bet my paycheck it had internal parasites that it could not keep up with.

[LB]

I watched a old show on the largest aquarium in spain the other night and they had a large spadefish.They we're feeding him by hand and adding medications but the cool part was when they held his mouth up out of the water and poured freshwater in to kill off parasites in his stomach.Maybe on smaller fish we could use a sippie cup??I wish that they had gone more into there quarantine procedures but I guess that does'nt sell!!

[Hopeful Reefer]

What about QT on frags in the same tank? Do any of those meds contain copper or otherwise cause harm to corals? I hadn't thought about a 55g kit from Wal-Mart, although I guess they are rather inexpensive...unless you don't have an RO/DI unit like me and have to run back and forth to the LFS for water to fill the thing!! :eek: ;)

[Neptune777]

These meds should not be used on corals. This QT will be only for fish.

My corals will be dipped in Fluke Tabs, and hit with Interceptor. All frag mounts and bases will be cut off before the coral goes into the main tank.

Since my plan is to get mostly LE frags, or frags from very reputable people/sources, and the dips, my chances of an issue are greatly reduced. Notice I said frags....this is my plan because it is much easier to inspect a frag rather than a colony for pests. Plus the LE stuff tends to be babied more than other corals.

[Hopeful Reefer]

How long do you have to QT corals with that method...what about TMPCD? Is that stuff any good...have read alot of people use it...

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11432726#post11432726 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Hopeful Reefer
How long do you have to QT corals with that method...what about TMPCD? Is that stuff any good...have read alot of people use it...

20-30min dip...This will be with an overdosed quantity of Interceptor.

TMPCC is OK, I've used it but it is pricey and I have had great success with the ones I have mentioned.

[J. Montgomery]

What are "LE" frags?

[LB]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11432991#post11432991 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by J. Montgomery
What are "LE" frags?

He only buy's em if he "like's em"

[JMBoehling]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11432991#post11432991 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by J. Montgomery
What are "LE" frags?

Limited Edition :D

[mr294]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11431960#post11431960 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Neptune777
Brandon, any luck finding some Sunburst Anthias?

I'm currently looking for 3 types of anthias to pretty much finish things off, but I haven't had luck locating any. Glad to see your fish selection is coming along though :D

[Neptune777]

Fish updates:

Marvin got in some awesome and seldom seen Algae Blennies today. They are the bright yellow Golden Algae Blenny (not to be confused with a Midas).....Stunning. I picked one up...and there is another one at the shop ;)

I also picked up a LTC Powder Blue Tang to be buddies with Mr. Achilles .... now was the only time to do this since they both are confused witht he tank transitions. They hit it off fantastically!!! Swimming together without any aggression.

Lastly I nabbed that Scopas Hybrid that has bee lurking at Atlantis since the old store...it's really starting to get some cool colors.

That's it for fish for at least 6 weeks.

[mr294]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11434766#post11434766 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Neptune777


Lastly I nabbed that Scopas Hybrid that has bee lurking at Atlantis since the old store...it's really starting to get some cool colors.



Glad to see him go to a good home!

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11434784#post11434784 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mr294
Glad to see him go to a good home!


My wife Susan wanted a yellow tang so I thought he was a good compromise :)

Brandon...did you look at these guys for your Elos. Would look super sweet!!!!
http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?ddid=32816&siteid=20

[mr294]

I was eyeing those and the resplendent pair they sold earlier. I really want this though....

http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?ddid=33022&siteid=20

[mr294]

How about that orange rhinopias for the 30? :D

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11435697#post11435697 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mr294
I was eyeing those and the resplendent pair they sold earlier. I really want this though....

http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?ddid=33022&siteid=20


Holy Scolymia Batman!!!!! That ROCKS!!!!!

Did you see the red/orange Rhinopias they just got in?

http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?ddid=33099&siteid=20

Even more stunning than the purple one they had...

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11435706#post11435706 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mr294
How about that orange rhinopias for the 30? :D


hehe...you beat me to it!

[mr294]

Yeah that scoly is :eek:

I might have missed it, but are you planning on using a controller?

[33g]

Looking good thats all i can say.Cant wait to see it with your corals and fish moved in.Excellent fish list.

[33g]

Brandon, thats one cool lps!

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11435804#post11435804 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mr294
Yeah that scoly is :eek:

I might have missed it, but are you planning on using a controller?

I upgraded my Vortechs so that they have the wireless wave controllers now. Just got them in the mail today...another fun gadget to tinker with.

[Reeftanks6]

hey sounds like you are doing great so far show us some pics of the new fish

[LB]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11435697#post11435697 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mr294
I was eyeing those and the resplendent pair they sold earlier. I really want this though....

http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?ddid=33022&siteid=20

How about rhis one!
http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?ddid=32738&siteid=20

[mr294]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11438354#post11438354 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LB
How about rhis one!
http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?ddid=32738&siteid=20

I'll take 2!











if you're buying :o

[LB]

If we get 100 people to go in together it might be doable!!!

[Hopeful Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11438394#post11438394 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LB
If we get 100 people to go in together it might be doable!!!

That would be one hell of a custody arrangement!!!! :lol2:

[Neptune777]

Here is a closer look at one of the heads:

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984TikiSide_12-22-2007_3-49-41_AM.JPG

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984Tiki1_12-22-2007_3-42-45_AM.JPG


And Here are some horrible Fish pics....too fast to get clear pics:

Baby A grade Picasso Pair:
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984Picassos_12-22-2007_3-47-25_AM.JPG

Group O'Fish
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984group_12-22-2007_3-43-54_AM-med.JPG

Golden Blenny
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984Yellow_Blenny_12-22-2007_3-44-55_AM.JPG



My Sump Area: The 3 Phosban Reactors will be the Trifecta of Water polishing (Carbon, Purigen, GFO):
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984Sump.gif

[virginiadiver69]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11439245#post11439245 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Hopeful Reefer
That would be one hell of a custody arrangement!!!! :lol2:

We could do a timeshare. :D Just draw week numbers from a hat.

[virginiadiver69]

Dave, it's looking great!
I hope you and LB don't mind...but I'm making mental notes (stealing ideas) from both of your builds for my upcoming project. :p

[LB]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11440368#post11440368 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by virginiadiver69
Dave, it's looking great!
I hope you and LB don't mind...but I'm making mental notes (stealing ideas) from both of your builds for my upcoming project. :p

my stuff's copyrighted!!!Leaks and all:D

[Neptune777]

Ohhh Brandon...ohhh ahhhh:
http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?ddid=32818&siteid=20

[Neptune777]

I managed to drain and remove all the old equipment/tanks/stands from my old set up today. What a nighmare! The good news is the floors under where they were have extremely little water damage. What is there will be hidden under some built in book cases I plan on making here in the near future.

I also connected my Vortechs with the new controllers and placed them on the new tank. They are working very well! I love the different modes it comes with. The Tangs and Corals are going to really dig the flow in this aquarium!

[mr294]

Good deal. It's always a nervous moment when you break down a tank thats been in one spot for awhile. Never quite know what the floors are going to look like :D

[Neptune777]

Updates:

My QT seems to be working very well thus far. It's a large fish load for the 55 gallon but I am doing several things to make sure the water stays healthy (Several have mentioned their concern so I thought I would explain how I am maintaining water parameters ;) ) :

1) Frequent water changes (every 3 days)
2) Frequent Filter Cleanings (I am using a Magnum HOT as the primary Filter) I remove the filter and clean with tank water daily to remove all collected waste.
3) I have an Air Pump running 24/7 with an air stone to keep the water well oxygenated.
4) Salinity has already been dropped to 1.009 and all fish are showing no signs of stress (actually the opposite...they seem very happy). Fish that had several spots of ICH now look spotless :)
5) I dosed my first run of Prazipro last night. This stuff is fantastic! Fish have shown ZERO signs of stress after dosing and I found several dead worms and flukes on the bottom of the Tank this AM!!!!
6) Water Temp is at 78...

[xxtriggermanxx]

Hello, need my fix! Update please....put anything in yet? snail ,crab, coral maybe ....I need something fast I'm starting to get the shake'sssss sorryyy can'ttt stoooopppppp.

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11473600#post11473600 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by xxtriggermanxx
Hello, need my fix! Update please....put anything in yet? snail ,crab, coral maybe ....I need something fast I'm starting to get the shake'sssss sorryyy can'ttt stoooopppppp.

Here are some nuggets to satisfy your fix ;)

Here are the dual 20g High tanks for RODI (background) and Mixed Salt (foreground). I am using float switches from autotopoff.com and float valves from Atlantis to keep these guys filled. The RODI feeds a Deltec Kalk Stirrer via the aqualifter mounted on the side of the stand ( with a float switch in the sump). The fresh salt water is pumped via a maxi-jet through the blue silicone tubing and is activated via my rocker panel when I want to do a water change:
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984Top_Off_12-28-2007_10-46-42_AM-med.JPG


Here is a quick shot of the Kalk Stirrer in front of my Ca Reactor. Aside from cleaning up the wires in the background this puppy is done.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984Kalk_12-28-2007_10-47-29_AM.JPG


Here are my opposing Vortechs in action. They are running now with the upgraded wave controllers.:
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984VTECH2_12-28-2007_10-49-42_AM-med.JPG

Here are the Controllers mounted on top of my canopy. The one with the blue light is the master and the orange a slave. I currently have them set to pulse mode. I have it programmed so that they work inverse of each other (One is full throttle the other the opposite...they switch like this back and forth etc.) There are many modes to choose from but I decided to play with this one for now...
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984VTECH3_12-28-2007_10-51-41_AM.JPG


No life added to the tank yet. No algae or anything for snails to eat...I am going to test all water parameters in the next day or so to see where it is and then maybe start adding corals :)

[Hopeful Reefer]

Looks great Dave! Awesome setup...

Did you add any seed liverock to this thing or are you going to allow the rock to seed itself as you add life?

This was just enough to tease us ya know... :lol: We need more pics...I suppose maybe there should be some life in there first...so...maybe throw in one of them undergravel filters and an airstone and throw a damsel in or something...nothing too tough to start you out! :lol2:

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11477271#post11477271 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Hopeful Reefer
Looks great Dave! Awesome setup...

Did you add any seed liverock to this thing or are you going to allow the rock to seed itself as you add life?

This was just enough to tease us ya know... :lol: We need more pics...I suppose maybe there should be some life in there first...so...maybe throw in one of them undergravel filters and an airstone and throw a damsel in or something...nothing too tough to start you out! :lol2:

Thanks! I am not going to add any live rock but rather introduce aquacultured pods, and some coralline, and I've been thinking of getting involved in Project DIBs and thus seeding the tank with 100% aquacultured inverts:

http://www.projectdibs.com/forums/misc.php?do=page&template=DIBSSpeciesPrices

[phurst]

Looking great Dave. I've got lots of plating coraline if you want some to scatter.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e332/pearsonhurst/HPIM3024.jpg

[Neptune777]

Pearson,
That coralline looks awesome! I would love to get some from you.

[mr294]

Great selection of equipment there.

Can't wait to see this monster in person :D

[33g]

This tanks just getting better every time i see it.I was curious as to how your calcium kalk reactors are in the sump are they elevated some or are they sitting on the bottom?im planning on moving my tank soon and had thought of placing my calcium reactor in the sump because of space.Thanks.

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11480698#post11480698 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 33g
This tanks just getting better every time i see it.I was curious as to how your calcium kalk reactors are in the sump are they elevated some or are they sitting on the bottom?im planning on moving my tank soon and had thought of placing my calcium reactor in the sump because of space.Thanks.


They are currently sitting right on the bottom. I feed the Ca reactor via a rodi line that is connected to the main return pipe (along with a mini ball valve). The Kalk is the only one I would be worried about spilling it's contents in the sump if it tipped over, but it appears to be very stable.

[mcliffy2]

Noticed you have the 3 phosbans hooked up in series and powered by one pump. What pump did you use to get the proper flow rate through these?

[Neptune777]

Maxi 1200 is all that is needed. I am running carbon/purigen/ and pelletized GFO...so no need to create a fluidized reactor, just need to push water through the media. The 1200 should push more than enough.

[Neptune777]

Here is a shot today of the Gang in QT..still doing great at 1.009 salinity and one round of Prazipro. Everyone is officially Ich free and now just needs to wait until the 6 weeks are up.

You can just see the Gloden Algae Blenny on the far left...what you can't see in this shot are the picasso clowns behind the Magnum HOT, the Flame Hawk, the little Chevron Tang, Scopas, and my Yashi gobi. All the fish really dig the maze of ABS pipes on the left.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984QT_Gang_12-30-2007_12-41-35_AM-med.JPG

[melev]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11391450#post11391450 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Neptune777
Who wants to do the first sacrifice?

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984Tiki2_12-15-2007_4-46-44_AM.JPG


http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984Tiki3_12-15-2007_4-50-21_AM.JPG

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984Tiki1_12-15-2007_4-55-38_AM.JPG


Tanks is only 1/4 filled....pics aren't that great.

I really like this. It seems like the tank would look best with only actinics or lights coming from within the two masks.

I just peruse the 7 pages of this thread, but didn't see specifics about what corals you'll keep. However, due to the gear you've got hooked up, I'm thinking a full blown reef. How do you hope to keep the masks from being lost in the mix?

Keep up the great work. I really like the quarantine system.

[virginiadiver69]

That is one pretty group of fish. Along with Triggers...the Naso, Powder blue and Achilles are my all time favorites.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11483000#post11483000 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Neptune777
I feed the Ca reactor via a rodi line that is connected to the main return pipe (along with a mini ball valve).
How and why do you have and RO/DI line connected directly to your return? Top off? I'm not a Ca reactor user so forgive my ignorance.

[erics3000]

Wow this is really cool..

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11484380#post11484380 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by virginiadiver69
That is one pretty group of fish. Along with Triggers...the Naso, Powder blue and Achilles are my all time favorites.


How and why do you have and RO/DI line connected directly to your return? Top off? I'm not a Ca reactor user so forgive my ignorance.

It's just the rodi tubing (not rodi water ;) ) that carries water from the return line to feed the reactor. I used RODI because there are many fittings available to easily connect to PVC pipes.

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11484235#post11484235 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
I really like this. It seems like the tank would look best with only actinics or lights coming from within the two masks.

I just peruse the 7 pages of this thread, but didn't see specifics about what corals you'll keep. However, due to the gear you've got hooked up, I'm thinking a full blown reef. How do you hope to keep the masks from being lost in the mix?

Keep up the great work. I really like the quarantine system.

Hi Melev,
It will be an all SPS system. I am going to carefully place corals so as not to bury the Tiki ruins and hopefully accent them.

Not sure what you mean by looking best with only actinics or the lights in the masks...If by giving it a surreal or eerie look that would certainly do it :)

[jnarowe]

man, I would probably put some wicked zoanthids on the masks.

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11484380#post11484380 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by virginiadiver69
That is one pretty group of fish. Along with Triggers...the Naso, Powder blue and Achilles are my all time favorites.


How and why do you have and RO/DI line connected directly to your return? Top off? I'm not a Ca reactor user so forgive my ignorance.

That Achilles is #1 on my list :)

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11485557#post11485557 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
man, I would probably put some wicked zoanthids on the masks.

I am temped to do that. I am a little leary of my Juvenile Imperator though... I have some True Blues from my previous tank that I might give a whirl and see if he has a taste for them :love2: This is my first large Angel and I want to see what he/she will let me get away with. If these survive then I will get some others as well.

[jnarowe]

They can also be picky and only eat certain ones. Tough on the wallet experiment though! :rolleyes:

I have seen scribbled rabbitfish completely clean a tank out of all kinds except for one, which apparently made them sick or didn't taste good. I have about 20 different kinds in my tank and someone in the tank has decided the peach center ones tsate good, but all others are left alone.

[Neptune777]

As my luck would have it they would eat only the most expensive and spectacular...leaving the ugliest to thrive :)

[virginiadiver69]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11485448#post11485448 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Neptune777
It's just the rodi tubing (not rodi water ;) ) that carries water from the return line to feed the reactor. I used RODI because there are many fittings available to easily connect to PVC pipes.

Ahh...I see. That would make sense and very clever.

[mrcrab]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11485631#post11485631 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Neptune777
I am temped to do that. I am a little leary of my Juvenile Imperator though... I have some True Blues from my previous tank that I might give a whirl and see if he has a taste for them :love2: This is my first large Angel and I want to see what he/she will let me get away with. If these survive then I will get some others as well.

My Imperator never aquired a taste for zoos. He liked the acans! :eek1:

[jnarowe]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11485891#post11485891 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Neptune777
As my luck would have it they would eat only the most expensive and spectacular...leaving the ugliest to thrive :)

Well ya got me there...that is THE rule isn't it! It's only your favorite coral that RTNs while you are at work trying to make enough to keep the system going! :lol:

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11486209#post11486209 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mrcrab
My Imperator never aquired a taste for zoos. He liked the acans! :eek1:


Now that could be really hard on the wallet!

[mrcrab]

Luckily I only had a small colony that I bought to try as I was concerned he might tak a liking to them. I gave the corals away to a good friend.

[Dudester]

Very unique aquascape, I think it's going to be fun. The blue silicone tubing is cool, where did you get it, and does the blue help prevent algae growth inside (akin to the Eheim green tubing)?

Mike

[J. Montgomery]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11494398#post11494398 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dudester
The blue silicone tubing is cool, where did you get it, and does the blue help prevent algae growth inside
If light can't get in, algae can't grow on the inside of the tube. Though thats not to say that the occasional cleaning for preventative maintenance isn't necessary.

[Dudester]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11494498#post11494498 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by J. Montgomery
If light can't get in, algae can't grow on the inside of the tube. Though thats not to say that the occasional cleaning for preventative maintenance isn't necessary. True, I was asking because I couldn't tell if the tubing was somewhat transparent or not. The Eheim tubing, for example, is green, but some light still penetrates the tubing and algae does grow inside. If the blue is more inhibitive I would give it a try.

[mrcrab]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11494634#post11494634 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dudester
True, I was asking because I couldn't tell if the tubing was somewhat transparent or not. The Eheim tubing, for example, is green, but some light still penetrates the tubing and algae does grow inside. If the blue is more inhibitive I would give it a try.

They sell a black. That's what I use for my RO and Ca rector.

Ooops, I was thinking of another type of tubing but they do sell a black vinyl that size.

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11494398#post11494398 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dudester
Very unique aquascape, I think it's going to be fun. The blue silicone tubing is cool, where did you get it, and does the blue help prevent algae growth inside (akin to the Eheim green tubing)?

Mike


Thanks.
The Silicone Tubing was supplied by our LFS. It still lets some light penetrate but since my tank bottom is painted black the sump area is in darkness all the time unless I turn on the cabinet lights. I got it because it looks nice, and it does not have a memory like vinyl.

[mr294]

It's about time for some post-weekend progress pics!

[Neptune777]

Pressure…Pressure…

Ok, no new pictures but I do have something new for you to chew on. I have decided that I will completely automate my water changes and have the display water feed a QT tank without having the potentially contaminated water go back into the main tank. The water changes will be done continuously at about 1% daily. This will accomplish several things that I think are important:
• Achieve great stability while exporting unwanted by-products from the system. It has been shown that 1% daily water changes are just about as effective as 30% once a month. My guess would be that under normal operating the 1% changes are better because they will prevent the depletion of trace elements that ordinarily get replenished at the monthly water change (thus avoiding any big swings). I got the idea from a Reef Chemistry article here: http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-10/rhf/index.php
• It will allow me to use the 30g as a coral QT without an extra Ca reactor, and the seasoned main tank water will keep the smaller cube more stable. This will be the case because it will be fed with main tank water at a rate of about 2.2 gallons each day. For the cube this will be a 7% water change over daily.
• Allow me more time to sit on my can in front of the Reef and soak in the eye candy.

How will this get accomplished you ask without screwing up the salinity levels in the main reef? Why the answer is fairly simply my friend! I will be using a high quality Reef Filler dual pump (http://www.championlighting.com/product.php?productid=17517&cat=386&page=1
) that will draw water from the mixed salt and the display at the same drip rate…just like you do dosing Parts A/B . The water that is drawn from the reef will feed the 30g Cube and the overflow in the Cube will go directly into the sewer. The system will be closely monitored and I am going to get an automatic salinity monitor with an alarm system to let me know if things have drifted too far.
Crazy? Might be…but I like pushing things to the edge :D

Here is a schematic to show what I mean:

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984ReefFiller.jpg

[Hopeful Reefer]

That is actually a pretty cool looking idea...hope it works for ya...

[Neptune777]

Thanks... can't wait to start setting it up!

[jnarowe]

so how do you keep the salt tank topped off, and how do you deal with evap?

[Neptune777]

Salt tank will be mixed and filled biweekly via my auto-top-off and me filling it with fresh salt. The evaporation will be handled by my other auto-top-off that will come on twice daily via a timer. The water change drip rate will be slow enough so not to be messed up with the evaporation replenish. The evaporation replenish will not be impacted because the water change will not effect the overall water level in the system since the same amount is entering and exiting at the same time.

[jnarowe]

all sounds good. I have a buddy locally that has built his own DIY slightly saline top-off system, but every time he discusses it with me, I can't exactly understand what he's saying. :rolleyes: He is actually topping off with saline water I believe, while removing water from the system.

[Neptune777]

slightly-Saline? That sounds odd...does he top off with fresh water as well?

[jnarowe]

as I stated, I just don't understand it. Yours makes sense to me. Apparently he is pulling water out and exchanging it with more water volume, but at a lower salinity. It is odd.

[Neptune777]

Update:
Golden Boy finally started eating this week :D The only problem was he decided to eat my Yashi Goby :( I actually saw him do it the other morning. He is now eating silversides with gusto!

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984Golden_Boy_1-9-2008_7-42-07_AM.JPG

[jnarowe]

Expensive snack...I know how that feels!

[Neptune777]

Boy you aren't kidding ;)...I felt bad for the little guy. I was under the impression that GDM's were not fish eaters per say........but I guess he had enough of his self imposed hunger strike and ate whatever was easily available.

Also goes to show that there are no rules set in stone in this hobby...every animal has a smidgen of free will .

[jnarowe]

Especially long skinny ones! :lol: We have a local reefer that did his "research" and determined that Snowflake eels were "reef safe". He put it in his tank and it ate every friggin' fish he had.

[Neptune777]

Fortunately at 10-12" max this guy is going to be very limited as to what he can tackle.... ;)

[maxxII]

I've got a GDM that I bought from another reefer. She said he might have eaten a Neon goby, but wasnt sure.

I've had him almost a year with no issues, until recently. I didnt see him do it, but I'm pretty sure he ate the smaller of my two White Bonnet Clownfish, (A.leucokranos). As its missing now, and I havent found a body anywhere...

Nick

[mrcrab]

The pigs at the buffet always go for the beluga caviar...don't they? :rolleyes:

[Neptune777]

Yeah...that and the Dom Perignon :D

[Dudester]

Would you mind describing your Fluke Tab dip? If I recall, you were pretty active in the AEFW thread, but maybe at that time you had a different avatar? I still have Fluke Tabs leftover from my AEFW treatment, and I wanted to have a dip for all new corals as well. Thanks!

[Neptune777]

Sure...I believe it was 4 Fluke Tabs for 5gal of water for 20min. This is what worked for me and I had zero loss with this treatment.

[Neptune777]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11540267#post11540267 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Neptune777
Pressure…Pressure…

Ok, no new pictures but I do have something new for you to chew on. I have decided that I will completely automate my water changes and have the display water feed a QT tank without having the potentially contaminated water go back into the main tank. The water changes will be done continuously at about 1% daily. This will accomplish several things that I think are important:
• Achieve great stability while exporting unwanted by-products from the system. It has been shown that 1% daily water changes are just about as effective as 30% once a month. My guess would be that under normal operating the 1% changes are better because they will prevent the depletion of trace elements that ordinarily get replenished at the monthly water change (thus avoiding any big swings). I got the idea from a Reef Chemistry article here: http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-10/rhf/index.php
• It will allow me to use the 30g as a coral QT without an extra Ca reactor, and the seasoned main tank water will keep the smaller cube more stable. This will be the case because it will be fed with main tank water at a rate of about 2.2 gallons each day. For the cube this will be a 7% water change over daily.
• Allow me more time to sit on my can in front of the Reef and soak in the eye candy.

How will this get accomplished you ask without screwing up the salinity levels in the main reef? Why the answer is fairly simply my friend! I will be using a high quality Reef Filler dual pump (http://www.championlighting.com/product.php?productid=17517&cat=386&page=1
) that will draw water from the mixed salt and the display at the same drip rate…just like you do dosing Parts A/B . The water that is drawn from the reef will feed the 30g Cube and the overflow in the Cube will go directly into the sewer. The system will be closely monitored and I am going to get an automatic salinity monitor with an alarm system to let me know if things have drifted too far.
Crazy? Might be…but I like pushing things to the edge :D

Here is a schematic to show what I mean:

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/117984ReefFiller.jpg



I put my order in today for the Reef Filler 2000 6.5gpd unit. I will post some pics of the setup when it arrives....the plan for now is to get my 30g Cube plumbed into the sewer drain tomorrow (should only take 5min).

[mr294]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11575480#post11575480 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Neptune777
...(should only take 5min).

Famous last words :lol:

[Neptune777]

:D