Hydor Koralia on a wavemaker?

[383camaro]

I was thinking of purchasing a Hydor Koralia #4 or a Tunze NanoStream 6045. Can either of these be used on a wavemaker? I was thinking of using a Red Sea Wavemaster Pro. Any other pumps that would be better suited? Possibly an MJ Mod?

[wrenchhead]

I have the korila and a modded mj and I cant run either on a wave maker.The propellers bounce around a lot before they seat in place.My seio 1100 does the same.

[383camaro]

What type of wavemaker are you using? I was thinking of using the Wavemaster Pro because it has a soft start feature and I was hoping that that would help.

[onano]

I have the tunze's. They have to run at least 15 min. on and 15 min. off per cycle or you will burn them up. The 6055's can run on a controller. Mine have been on a 30 min. on and 15 min. off cycle for 9 mos. without issue. My 75G build post explains my programming sequence.

[383camaro]

Thanks.

[capn_hylinur]

I have the hydor ones on a 30 sec waver timer receptacle. They are ok but the hydor threes won't take it--they clunk when they restart.

[IndyReefMan]

Try the SEIO controller instead. They don't shut the pump on and off like the Wavemaster Pro. The SEIO controller will throttle up to 100% then down to 50% so the pumps don't turn off all the way. I run (2) 6045's and it works great. Others on this site have reported running Korralia's on them as well.

[capn_hylinur]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10730020#post10730020 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by IndyReefMan
Try the SEIO controller instead. They don't shut the pump on and off like the Wavemaster Pro. The SEIO controller will throttle up to 100% then down to 50% so the pumps don't turn off all the way. I run (2) 6045's and it works great. Others on this site have reported running Korralia's on them as well.

what's the cost of the seio controller?

[IndyReefMan]

Here is ona at PA

http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=RIO-SEIO-10136&Category_Code=

[csb]

The seio controller works very well with the Koralia pumps... I'm running K3's on a Seio controller with very good results

--csb

[capn_hylinur]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10730326#post10730326 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by IndyReefMan
Here is ona at PA

http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=RIO-SEIO-10136&Category_Code=

thanks---as suggested I added it to my gift list :)

[Paradiddle7]

So, you aren't using the Tunze controller or the SEIO controller with your 6055's? You are only using a standard computerized controller to turn them on for 30 minutes and then off for 15 minutes?

Is there any sort of documentation to back this? I've been told that running them with any other type of controller other than the tunze controller will void their warranty. That's not what I want to do at over $200 a piece.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10727693#post10727693 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by onano
I have the tunze's. They have to run at least 15 min. on and 15 min. off per cycle or you will burn them up. The 6055's can run on a controller. Mine have been on a 30 min. on and 15 min. off cycle for 9 mos. without issue. My 75G build post explains my programming sequence.

[jeffhand]

My Hydor Koralia #4 will not run on a wavemaker.It makes a loud clunk sound at start up.

[Toddrtrex]

I am running my #4 on the wavemaker that is part of the Reefkeeper ( the 1st one )
Been running that way for about 3 months now. Once in a blue moon I will get a little noise, but most of the time I can't notice it turn on.

Granted, I was given the #4 from a guy I knew who wasn't using it, so I didn't have anything to lose by trying it.

And I think I am lucky with powerheads, I have a bunch of Seios on wavemakers (( the red sea one and part of another reefkeeper )) for over 3 years now without any issues.

[capn_hylinur]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10847848#post10847848 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Toddrtrex
I am running my #4 on the wavemaker that is part of the Reefkeeper ( the 1st one )
Been running that way for about 3 months now. Once in a blue moon I will get a little noise, but most of the time I can't notice it turn on.

Granted, I was given the #4 from a guy I knew who wasn't using it, so I didn't have anything to lose by trying it.

And I think I am lucky with powerheads, I have a bunch of Seios on wavemakers (( the red sea one and part of another reefkeeper )) for over 3 years now without any issues.

Todd--what's the interval rate on the #4-----I tried 30 secs---the one would take it the 3--no way--and of course the power heads take it.

[Toddrtrex]

Not sure exactly what the interval is, but I want to say that I have it set around 10 minutes or so. Pretty much in-between 7-10 if I had to guess.

[capn_hylinur]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10847924#post10847924 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Toddrtrex
Not sure exactly what the interval is, but I want to say that I have it set around 10 minutes or so. Pretty much in-between 7-10 if I had to guess.

just for fun--crank the time down to under one min intervals and see if you get the clunking noise.
I had the LFS check this out--there is no caution that you should not run the HK's on an interval timer and that the gurantee still is good---I just can't stand hearing the clunking sound---it detracts from the ambiance--LOL

[darkcirca]

I wouldn't trust using the koralias. My fear would be my fish swimming in at just the right time, and bam, a fish smoothie. Mine are known to swim up the top and I know with my bad luck it would happen.

[Toddrtrex]

You going to buy me a new one if it breaks. ;) ;)

But, yea I will try that. And for all know it does make noise more often, but that tank is upstairs, so I am not there all the time. Though I do understand what you mean about the ambiance. For some reason my SEIO 1100 makes more noise hooked up to the Red Sea wavemaker compared to the wavemaker that is part of the Reefkeeper. That tank is in my family room ( or living room, what ever the TV room is called. ;) ) so it did bother me.

[Toddrtrex]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10848147#post10848147 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by darkcirca
I wouldn't trust using the koralias. My fear would be my fish swimming in at just the right time, and bam, a fish smoothie. Mine are known to swim up the top and I know with my bad luck it would happen.

I can sort of see what you are saying, but I don't have that concern. On mine I added the screen that was part of a SEIO to the end of it -- the #4 was moving my sandbed too much otherwise.

If you look on the right hand side of this picture you can see what I am talking about.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/toddrtrex/newbulbwithflash.jpg

[arts007]

I run both my K2's on a DJ timer that has 4 outlets in either 2 or 4 channel mode. They sell it has a wavemaker for about 50 bucks but got it as the DJ timer for 25 bucks. They do clank once in awhile but works fine, there was a cleaner shrimp in it "cleaning" it and it came on and blew him across the tank, kinda funny

[Adam G]

I have three of the 4's on the Reefkeeper 2 wavemaker function. It has been going good so far. I do get the occasional clicks when it starts up, but not too often. Mine run on 6 minute cycles.

[litllespot]

I use my 4,s on a wavemaker, does fine. Never had a problem with my fish going in it.

[m2434]

I was looking at the Hydor Koralia as a wavemaker, but decided against after the feedback I got. Does anyone have any experience with a good wavemaker powerhead? I guess ideally I'd want something with a clutch that starts slowly, i.e. doesn't just start at full throttle. Any comments would be appreciated!

[TTSupra]

Most koralia's make a loud clunk on start up. Both of my 3's do, and I couldn't imagine hearing that noise every 30 seconds if they were on a wave maker. I'd suggest a different brand for it.

[BangkokMatt]

I run 2 Koralia 4s with a Seio controller. The results are excellent.
You need to run them with wavemakers which don't turn the powerhead off, but lower the voltage and power.

[capn_hylinur]

wouldn't you like to hear from a Hydor rep right about now----I wonder if there is a sponsor out there that would like to comment on this ???

[capn_hylinur]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10848165#post10848165 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Toddrtrex
I can sort of see what you are saying, but I don't have that concern. On mine I added the screen that was part of a SEIO to the end of it -- the #4 was moving my sandbed too much otherwise.

If you look on the right hand side of this picture you can see what I am talking about.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/toddrtrex/newbulbwithflash.jpg

is that an older model---it has a big opening on it compared to mine---
http://archive.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1207565


I find the newer ones--directing the flow more out to the sides--then out the front---so they can be placed a litttle closer to the sandbed.
Plus I am only using a three in a 120-----yours might be a little too powerful for a 75

[derrikd]

i just got 3 #4's for my 125.... i am going to try a wavemaker.... any more updates on how they do please keep them comming

[Toddrtrex]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10853267#post10853267 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capn_hylinur
is that an older model---it has a big opening on it compared to mine---
http://archive.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1207565


I find the newer ones--directing the flow more out to the sides--then out the front---so they can be placed a litttle closer to the sandbed.
Plus I am only using a three in a 120-----yours might be a little too powerful for a 75

I am not sure if it is an older model or not, it was given to me ( used ) by a fellow reefer. But it should be noted that I put the screen from a SEIO on the end of it to help prevent it from moving my sandbed so much.

[capn_hylinur]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10853414#post10853414 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Toddrtrex
I am not sure if it is an older model or not, it was given to me ( used ) by a fellow reefer. But it should be noted that I put the screen from a SEIO on the end of it to help prevent it from moving my sandbed so much.

yeah---I think that accomplishes what the new ones are doing.

by the way the "new hydor 3 ' that I have ----placed 3/4 of the way up on a 28 high 120--will churn the surface and at the same time give enough flow across the substrate that you can see flake food carried away---------


now that's a pump boy---that's a pump
:D
(eddie murphy--Delierious)

[capn_hylinur]

sorry Todd---rude of me---that's a nice tank--I love the colour of that mushroom---all I seem to find around here are tan or beige

[Toddrtrex]

lol that wasn't rude at all.

But, calling my blue carpet ( haddonii ) anemone a mushroom was. ;)

Mainly because I used to have mushrooms in that tank -- way too many. Ended up selling off all the rock because of them.

That is interesting about the new ones, I might have to try a smaller one on my 29. Sounds like the flow is a lot better.

[capn_hylinur]

lol it looks exactly like my mushroom-- in the centre:

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r107/reefescapetangster/IMG_4186.jpg

[Toddrtrex]

Nice tank.

Ahh, I see what you are talking about. Here is a close up of mine, easier to tell the difference.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/toddrtrex/carpetsunlight3.jpg

[capn_hylinur]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10855059#post10855059 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Toddrtrex
lol that wasn't rude at all.

But, calling my blue carpet ( haddonii ) anemone a mushroom was. ;)

Mainly because I used to have mushrooms in that tank -- way too many. Ended up selling off all the rock because of them.

That is interesting about the new ones, I might have to try a smaller one on my 29. Sounds like the flow is a lot better.

all this talk about hydors---I just picked up a 2 on the way home from work---two three in each corner and the 2 in the middle---

Tim the tool man would be proud---ooh ooh power yes :smokin:

[capn_hylinur]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10855888#post10855888 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Toddrtrex
Nice tank.

Ahh, I see what you are talking about. Here is a close up of mine, easier to tell the difference.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/toddrtrex/carpetsunlight3.jpg


nice--really nice--does that stay put ?

[Toddrtrex]

Except for when I redid the rocks, it hasn't moved at all.

[capn_hylinur]

I asked this on another thread --can you figure out what these are--I think they attacked by bubble coral til I move it out of the way---they are hurting the xenia--but what does?
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r107/reefescapetangster/IMG_4539.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r107/reefescapetangster/IMG_4540.jpg

[capn_hylinur]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10855916#post10855916 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Toddrtrex
Except for when I redid the rocks, it hasn't moved at all.

If I placed one on the rock that the Rose is under--would they live in bliss together?
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r107/reefescapetangster/IMG_4518.jpg

[Dr Begalke]

i'm thinking of trying some koralia's on a jbj wavemaker... i have seen other posts stating this works... does anyone here use this setup?

"Comments: I bought 2 Hydro Koralia 850 pumps and hooked it up to JBJ Ocean Pulse - DUO Wavemaker! It has an extremely smooth flow from one pump to the other. "

from: http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewItem~SearchStr~jbj%20wavemaker~action~view~idProduct~JB6111~idCategory~FIWMEW~category~JBJ_Oc ean_Pulse___DUO_Wavemaker_(2_pump_Capacity)_Saltwater_Aquarium_Supplies_Wavemakers_External~vendor~. html

[capn_hylinur]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10855987#post10855987 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dr Begalke
i'm thinking of trying some koralia's on a jbj wavemaker... i have seen other posts stating this works... does anyone here use this setup?

"Comments: I bought 2 Hydro Koralia 850 pumps and hooked it up to JBJ Ocean Pulse - DUO Wavemaker! It has an extremely smooth flow from one pump to the other. "

from: http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewItem~SearchStr~jbj%20wavemaker~action~view~idProduct~JB6111~idCategory~FIWMEW~category~JBJ_Oc ean_Pulse___DUO_Wavemaker_(2_pump_Capacity)_Saltwater_Aquarium_Supplies_Wavemakers_External~vendor~. html

keep us posted--let us know if it works

[monti1]

Do you guys think 2- korolia 3's on the seio controller would be too much for a 75 gallon? Iwant to go with a decnent amount of SPS but also would like some sort of sand bed.

[capn_hylinur]

IMO---it depends how far you want the flow to spread.
for eg mine tank is high----so my reef is built high to accomodate sps coral(as soon as I change my halide bulbs :) ) Its good for me to have the heavy flow and turbulance near the top of the reef.
Half way down I have a huge toadstool that absolutely hates any kind of turbulant flow. The korolia three doesn't reach that layer.

In your case I would not want any more then ttwo threes or your going to have turbulance all over the tank--if you are keeping lps corals --they won't like that.

[capn_hylinur]

I've been searching all over for a schematic diagram of the flow coming out of a korolia. Does anyone have a link to that?
(as how much comes out the sides of the pump compared to the centre cone)

[Dr Begalke]

i've never seen such a diagram... i'd imagine there is some variability between pumps.

[capn_hylinur]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10856846#post10856846 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dr Begalke
i've seen such a diagram... i'd imagine there is some variability between pumps.

I would think only in gph----I interested in the flow patterns

It's easy to predict with a normal lateral flowing power head and easy to adjust.

[monti1]

capn,

Do you think 2 korilia 2's would give enough movement on the top of the tank and allow for some LPS at the bottom of the tank?

[Pmolan]

I've ben looking at seio wavemakers and was wondering about the ones that say (for Models M1100, M1500 & M2600 Only). Are there different wavemakers for different models? If so which can be used for the K4's.

My Flame Hawk sits on the K4 all day long. I dread the day he figures out that there is a cave in the front. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smiley-ghost.gif

[capn_hylinur]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10857383#post10857383 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Pmolan
I've ben looking at seio wavemakers and was wondering about the ones that say (for Models M1100, M1500 & M2600 Only). Are there different wavemakers for different models? If so which can be used for the K4's.

My Flame Hawk sits on the K4 all day long. I dread the day he figures out that there is a cave in the front. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smiley-ghost.gif

one of the poster--Todd? stated he put a screen over it.

[capn_hylinur]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10857277#post10857277 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by monti1
capn,

Do you think 2 korilia 2's would give enough movement on the top of the tank and allow for some LPS at the bottom of the tank?

how high is your tank---to answer the question I'm trying to find a flow diagram for these--then it will be alot easier to figure out

[monti1]

It is 24" high

[derrikd]

i just got 3 4's today, there is no openings in mine at all, there is a peice that covers the front and all sides, no way a fish can get in there at all. they must have improved it, the screens were all seperate so you can run them with or with out the screens..

[Pmolan]

Good to know. Maybe Ill email them, see where that gets me.

http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smiley-pickin-on-horse.gif

[capn_hylinur]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10857947#post10857947 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by derrikd
i just got 3 4's today, there is no openings in mine at all, there is a peice that covers the front and all sides, no way a fish can get in there at all. they must have improved it, the screens were all seperate so you can run them with or with out the screens..

can you post a pic---I just bought one yesterday and it wasn't like that---I don't like paying new prices for old stock esp if improvements have been made

[capn_hylinur]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10857819#post10857819 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by monti1
It is 24" high

this isn't scientific but my three is placed at 24 inches and as long as it isn't pointed directly down it is not hitting the sand bed hard enough to stir it up.

[randy8876]

All the references I see about the seio controller say it can't be used with non-Seio pumps. Is there any reason why they make this claim, or is it just a "stick to our brand" sales tactic?

[BangkokMatt]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10994222#post10994222 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by randy8876
All the references I see about the seio controller say it can't be used with non-Seio pumps. Is there any reason why they make this claim, or is it just a "stick to our brand" sales tactic?

There aren't many powerheads that can be used with the Seio Controller. Its designed for low wattage PHs such as the seio PH but....because HKs are low wattage they work fine. I am using this set up with 2 x K4s.

[capn_hylinur]

would an aqua control jr work the same as a seio controller?

[BangkokMatt]

No it wouldn't because it creates the wave motion by switching the powerheads on and off. For the HKs to work properly they need to be on a power changing circuit ie the pumps run at 30% power then at 100% then at 30% etc. Only the Seio controller can do this so it is the only option for the Koralias.

[capn_hylinur]

thanks--I wish Hydor came out with this statement---before I bought the variable timer. My supplier who is also a good friend checked this out with them and they said no problem. Plus there is no contraindication for not using them only with a Seio