Odyssea CFS4 Canister Filter Good or trash?

[happyface888]

A friend just gave me a Odyssea CFS4 Canister Filter
http://www.aquatraders.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=47
I was wondering is it any good and is it worth it to buy media for this thing.

[sfsuphysics]

I have zero experience with this particular piece of equipment, but in general Odyssea = Junk, doesn't matter about the equipment it's usually all crap.

I wouldn't recommend a cannister filter for any tank, but I really would not recommend any products made by the "Odyssea" (formerly Jebo) name brand, it really is a crap shoot if you get a product that works as advertised, or not. But if you want to risk it all in the name of saving a buck, then far be it for me to shy you away, and yes I realized you were given it (probably for good reason *laugh*) FYI they don't match their website prices if you go into buy it directly from their store front.

P.S. don't even think about buying any fish from Aquatraders.

[jazzmanb]

i use an odysea uv sterilizer and it works great...i realized a sterilizer is nothing but a uv bulb and a tube,doesnt matter what brand it is.....to tell you the truth i think some oddysea stuff is fine,of course if you have the money its better to buy other higher quality stuff,but for those on a budget,some of their stuff is just fine....the things by them that you shouldnt buy would be their tanks,livestock,heaters and their hallide systems...i had their pc unit and it was great....dont always believe the hype of how bad products are,the canister filter should be fine....

[marw99]

You get what you pay for. crap is crap. dont cry to me when you house burn down. EOM

[jmc74]

why everyone *****es about Odyssea, and they bring the "burn your house down" crap... I have only seen one person that had a faulty PC fixture that shorted the wires and burned, but no other damage has been seen, I do agree that Odyssea is low quality, but so are others, most stuff is made in china this days, why because is cheap labor, so large companies take their products there. I seen other people having problems with all types of stuff, but since they are not cheap in price, nobody bring the product down. I have several items from Odyssea, and I had owned several items, and I only had a defective UV sterilizer housing, and it was my fault because I broke it, even after the careful warning from Aquatraders.

so do us all a favor... QUIT your *****ING!! and don't buy if you don't like it, period.

[marw99]

We need to inform fellow reefer dont cut corner in this hobby. This I repeat is not a cheap hobby and care must be given to the animals that we house in our reefs. We should not patronage companys/LFS who don give a sh_t and just want to make a quick buck or reefers who chop shop corals or kills animals who dont know how to care for them.

[ianiwane]

I have that canister filter. I've been using it one a 10 gallon freshwater shrimp tank for over a year now. Before I had it on a 50 gallon planted tank for more than a year. I've heard one problem of that canister leaking but have never had a problem myself. I have thousands of dollars of crystal red shrimp in the tank and would not use this canister if I felt it was unsafe for them. I however would not use jebo lighting with/out checking the wires or for metal halides replacing the ballasts first (I don't have any jebo lights). Marw99 do you have any experience with this specific filter? If so please share it.

[orientalexpress]

i have a jebo chiller for 3 year now.not a single problem.i open it to clean it up.the compressor make in japan tho.Hell if i knew what i knew now,i wouldn't be in this stupid expensive addicting hobby in the first place.oh well ,too late now.Anybody want to buy a perfectly good tank?:)


lapsan

[delsol650]

I've read many a times about the lights catching on fire.. just search here on RC...

As for canisters, I wouldn't recommend cansiters for full reefs unless your going to make a dedicated effort to always keep that thing clean.. they're notorious for housing extra nutrients if not kept in check...

as for aquatraders stuff.. I've been there numerous times... I wouldn't really buy there tanks ( looks like bad seals, lights, skimmers etc.... )... I'd rather pay what your supposed to for KNOWN commodities that are reliable and do what they are advertised to do...

just my .02, you get what you pay for.

Im not about to start on the way they handle livestock there and the quality those stuff are being put in.

[bookfish]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10467677#post10467677 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by marw99
We need to inform fellow reefer dont cut corner in this hobby. This I repeat is not a cheap hobby and care must be given to the animals that we house in our reefs. We should not patronage companys/LFS who don give a sh_t and just want to make a quick buck or reefers who chop shop corals or kills animals who dont know how to care for them.
Agreed.

[jmc74]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10467677#post10467677 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by marw99
We need to inform fellow reefer dont cut corner in this hobby. This I repeat is not a cheap hobby and care must be given to the animals that we house in our reefs. We should not patronage companys/LFS who don give a sh_t and just want to make a quick buck or reefers who chop shop corals or kills animals who dont know how to care for them.


hey, you must be a millionare then, because I always seen people trying to get stuff cheaper, because; yes this is an expensive hobby, but just because is expensive, you don't have to mortgage you home to buy equipment.

hundred of people but Jebo and Odyssea, and some have excellent results, some don't. my tank is a 75g Glass JEBO bowfront seamless, and I always get complements on it, do I have problems with it? NO, my 2 sets of dual 250w MH lights are Odyssea, and I don't have problems with it, but I did upgrade the ballast on both. and my past tanks ( I had 4) there were also Jebo/Odyssea, and I never had any problem, I had their early skimmers, now people mod them and get great results.

and the deal you get, even after you upgrade anything, you still well below the cost of other brands, and get same or better results... Just read the almost 200 pages about the new MH fixture, and you'll see that alot of RC members are now happy... I know I am.

[jmc74]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10467677#post10467677 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by marw99
We need to inform fellow reefer dont cut corner in this hobby. This I repeat is not a cheap hobby and care must be given to the animals that we house in our reefs. We should not patronage companys/LFS who don give a sh_t and just want to make a quick buck or reefers who chop shop corals or kills animals who dont know how to care for them.


this sound like PETCO & PETSMART....


oh, BTW; the care of Animals and corals have nothing to do on how much you spend, just because you buy a $5000 tank or a $3000 light fixture (hmmm, SOLARIS) , is does not make you a better reefer.


and also, SOLARIS fixture, you know the $3000 fixture.. few people have reported that the ballast burned, and if you search on line, one person indicated that it melted the wires...

[marw99]

I hope you have good fire insurance

[delsol650]

I just dont get the idea of buying something cheap, spending more money to get better parts for it and moding it.. just to get it to work up to par with better brands or supposdly work better than the top of the line stuff out there.... puzzles me... I'm on the buy it set it and forget it.

Neither do I get people who spend $$$$ on corals and fish yet SKIMP out on equipment and other stuff... very puzzling...:hmm2:

[jmc74]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10468357#post10468357 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by delsol650
I just dont get the idea of buying something cheap, spending more money to get better parts for it and moding it.. just to get it to work up to par with better brands or supposdly work better than the top of the line stuff out there.... puzzles me... I'm on the buy it set it and forget it.

Neither do I get people who spend $$$$ on corals and fish yet SKIMP out on equipment and other stuff... very puzzling...:hmm2:


well, when you consider a similar fixture...

lets say the coralife aqualight, new it retails for $900+, and it has exactly the same housing, legs, celing mount, etc. except, ballast and PC bulbs, now the Odyssea retails for $380, then you add 2 new ballast, let's say; IceCap or CoralVue, each is $100, now the fixture is $580, well if you did like me and sell the Odyssea ballast on ebay, you can recover about $100-150 for the pair. so you are back down at about $400-450, and even if you didn't sell the ballast, you can still use the $400 difference on other equipment.

now I don't own a DELTEC like you, or work for a BIOSCIENCE Lab, so I can't afford a $1000 skimmer, so I do away with a Euroreef, not the same but I get good results.

is like just because you can afford an AMG Benz, and I can do a Ford or Chevy, well still a car, still gets me places, and I can mod both to make them just as fast, or fun or both.

it comes to this, if you are handy, and have a brain and can clearly see the posibility of saving some $$,by getting equipment that has potential, the go ahead, but if you can tell the difference between a corless screwdriver and a drill, then buy the premium stuff, already made.... maybe since some people here are so rich, they should hire some of us poor people to take care of their tanks...:rolleye1:

[delsol650]

Wow. spitefull arent we...

FYI- I live month to month as well... not rich either... just saved for years thats it... I did not pay close to a " G " either... I just figure If I have a Ferrari already why use knockoff tires and try to go 200 MPH with it.. Or why buy a honda spend 80K on it and say its better than a lambo/porsche.

I am handy and have a brain like most people here on RC. I just figure I already spend enough time and money on this HOBBY why spend more time on INFERIOR equipment and modding just to make it work like it supposed to...

FYI- I sold my other car JUST to be able to afford and get back in to this hobby. what I spend with is the residual of what I had left over from selling my car.

and with an attitude like that most wouldn't hire you either... :lol:
J/K had to put that out there.. hahahha

[jmc74]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10468528#post10468528 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by delsol650
Wow. spitefull arent we...

and with an attitude like that most wouldn't hire you either... :lol:
J/K had to put that out there.. hahahha


attitude? what's that?


I knew I had to fix something... to get hired :lol:

[delsol650]

:lol: :thumbsup:

[sfsuphysics]

Ok before people put words in my mouth.. too late...

I'm not saying all Odyssea/Jebo stuff is crap, a lot of it is, but a lot is as mentioned, standard stuff. I've seen people buy from aquatraders and get burned either by damaged goods, or prematurely dying of electronics, doesn't mean everything is that way.

Yes lots of it is made in china, most things are, however you have to realize Chinese made does not mean it's all the same quality, the reason why the Odyssea stuff is cheaper is because they request cheaper stuff.

Also I never said money = quality, only a fool wood. Yes this is an expensive hobby, yes people do try to cut corners and save bucks here and there (I'm one of them), however a lot of it comes down to how much are you really saving, in the long run. If your pump dies, and you need to buy another, sure it was 1/2 the cost of "brand X" but you just paid the same of brand X for buying two pumps.

And Lapsan, what the heck are you buying a chiller for, you live in SF :D

[jmc74]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10470016#post10470016 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sfsuphysics
Ok before people put words in my mouth.. too late...

I'm not saying all Odyssea/Jebo stuff is crap, a lot of it is, but a lot is as mentioned, standard stuff. I've seen people buy from aquatraders and get burned either by damaged goods, or prematurely dying of electronics, doesn't mean everything is that way.

Yes lots of it is made in china, most things are, however you have to realize Chinese made does not mean it's all the same quality, the reason why the Odyssea stuff is cheaper is because they request cheaper stuff.

Also I never said money = quality, only a fool wood. Yes this is an expensive hobby, yes people do try to cut corners and save bucks here and there (I'm one of them), however a lot of it comes down to how much are you really saving, in the long run. If your pump dies, and you need to buy another, sure it was 1/2 the cost of "brand X" but you just paid the same of brand X for buying two pumps.

And Lapsan, what the heck are you buying a chiller for, you live in SF :D


yes, I do agree, some stuff they sell is garbage, but not all... the filters are ok, I had 2 canister back when I had Fresh water, and they still work, my friend has them now.

and i also agree on the pump part, but the example I give for the MH fixture is true, you do save money, and i do have few of the pumps, and they work great, I did had to replace two QuietOne 4000 that had problems starting, and the cheap $10 as-is from Aquatraders work! and they move about 800g/hr, I try to get warranty o the QuietOnes, and it was a problem, Dr. Foster didn't help, and i purchased both there, and it was before 6mos. and the Mfg didn't ever responded. so i needed a replacement pump fast and i had no $$, so I bough 2 of the $10 as-is for my main tank, well... long story short I still have them, and every other pump froze when I overrun my calcium reactor and all the shafts on my Maxijets, and UV sterilizer stoped, but my main ODYSSEA $10 pump, save my tank, unitl I cleaned all w/vinager


oh, BTW. Lapsan need the chiller in SF, because he's tank houses ALASKA'n KING CRAB :lol:

[tuberider]

If your tank/equipment is a Jebo/odessea crap, don't expect any frags from me. Sure you have a50/50 chance of burning your house down, great, but at what expense? Ask CPR about the blatent patent violations on their skimmers, or the legions of people that speak of sparks and the smell of smoke. JMC74 do you get a kickback from Aquatraitors? Or have you not had an issue yet? I service ~35 tanks a month to put food on my table, I carry insurance for that reason, companies like Oddesea are the reason why my insurance is so expensive.

Do I drive a Yugo to work NO, but I HEAR they're cheap

[jmc74]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10471593#post10471593 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tuberider
If your tank/equipment is a Jebo/odessea crap, don't expect any frags from me. Sure you have a50/50 chance of burning your house down, great, but at what expense? Ask CPR about the blatent patent violations on their skimmers, or the legions of people that speak of sparks and the smell of smoke. JMC74 do you get a kickback from Aquatraitors? Or have you not had an issue yet? I service ~35 tanks a month to put food on my table, I carry insurance for that reason, companies like Oddesea are the reason why my insurance is so expensive.

Do I drive a Yugo to work NO, but I HEAR they're cheap

no, I don't get a kickback from Aquatraders (but I should eh?) now on the serius note here... I have not had any trouble, and the only item I ever had problems, it was my fault, I overtigh the UV bulb and it cracked, but that was my fault, oh, one more, long, long ago, one of the canister had a bad seal, but they give me a new seal/o-ring and it fix it... I guess im a lucky guy. that's why i still buy their products, but with caution, don't get me wrong, I do check them before I put them into service, just in case :eek2:

about the patents on the CPR, well I can give a damm, CPR sux anyway, i don't like the Backpack crap, so if they copy garbage, I guess they get garbage... that is exactly why i say "some stuff is garbage"

[jmc74]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10471593#post10471593 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tuberider


Do I drive a Yugo to work NO, but I HEAR they're cheap



oh, BTW... I hear the Yugo has air supension that is adjustable :eek1:


do I hear "LOW RIDER":bum:

[jazzmanb]

some of you cats on here have to understand that people on reef central love to rag on jebo/odysea stuff[even without having owned jebo products]....i have freinds who have deltec pumps that go out on them,and there are thousands of threads on oceanic tanks leaking....lets not even start with hallide ballasts from pfo etc...i had one that sparked due to bad wiring...it all comes down to quality control,and odysea has had some terrible products and some good and decent ones...you obviously get what you pay for,and i personally dont buy odysea stuff anymore,as id rather buy used higher quality stuff, but im smart enough to realize that some of odyseas stuff is just fine...like my amazing uv sterilizer. jazzmanb p.s to say you wouldnt give someone a frag because they have a jebo tank is silly[im sorry but it is] also with the kind of money you cats make on cleaning tanks,the insurance should be an issue WHATSOEVER!!!!!!!

[tuberider]

O.K. boys, you go on. Three weeks ago I replaced a Jebo PC ballast with a Coralife the Jebo burned out after less than 6 months. Two months ago I went to a house that had a wet saturated carpet due to a HOB skimmer overflowing for the millionth time, it was a 1.5 million dollar house (before you rebut, how much does that house you live in cost your landlord?). You know how much I make, really? really? You're full of BS, do you work in music? Do you have a steady gig? When I was doing casuals/hotel gigs I made more money than I do now straight up, 1099's and all.

Jazzman, if you want to take this to PM you're more than welcome, I know all about the equipment your idols play through as I had to procure them during the 7-8 years I presented headline jazz (read Stanley Turrentine, Milt Jackson, Ray Brown, etc.). They are not playing through Jebo equipment for sure.

I'm done with this thread, I work VERY hard in this industry to make a living. It leaves a foul taste in my mouth when people contradict themselves with unsubstantiated statements like "those people haven't owned Jebo equipment", when I've spent countless hours cleaning up after this crap.

Now sling all the mud you want because I'm done.

[orientalexpress]

If your tank/equipment is a Jebo/odessea crap, don't expect any frags from me Really?Damn that suck.:rolleyes:


Lapsan, what the heck are you buying a chiller for, you live in SF you know ,light,light,light and more lights :D


lapsan

[jazzmanb]

my name is brandon etzler, type my name in and search to see who and where i play...im currently playing with will bernard[we just played yoshis,and tour],wil blades hammond b3] brandon robinson trio,who we are,the townhouse legends,steppin,o.g.d[organ,guitar drums,brian coogan,eddie roberts,khali doak anthony etc...my influences are elvin jones,roy haynes,dejohnette,tony,billy higgins,clyde stubblefield,bernard purdie,idris muhammhad,brian blade,james brown,fela kuti,tony allen,ali farka toure etc....im not sure how and why you listed stanley and milt,but i love both of them...this thread is about odysea,and somehow im defending my love for music and my reputation as a musician..this is nonsense. p.s music is how i make my living,and is my life,reefing is only a hobby and is more of an addiction and distraction...

[jmc74]

sounds like a MAD RED NECK, I see your occupation... TRAILER PARK trash, I didn't know trailers had strong floor to support Good heavy tanks...

im done with the pro's that make so much money, yet they live in a TUNA CAN

[Elite]

Watzup with you guys??
Everyone has their own opinion. No need to attack others.

IBTL :D

[Thales]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10471981#post10471981 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmc74
sounds like a MAD RED NECK, I see your occupation... TRAILER PARK trash, I didn't know trailers had strong floor to support Good heavy tanks...

im done with the pro's that make so much money, yet they live in a TUNA CAN

Wow. I hope you aren't a member of the club because I wouldn't want propagation efforts I am involved with to support someone that would post something like that.

[jmc74]

ok, I see tuberider, started the crap, an now im the bad guy.

[Elite]

From what I see, you are the one who started the crap.



it comes to this, if you are handy, and have a brain and can clearly see the posibility of saving some $$,by getting equipment that has potential, the go ahead, but if you can tell the difference between a corless screwdriver and a drill, then buy the premium stuff, already made.... maybe since some people here are so rich, they should hire some of us poor people to take care of their tanks...:rolleye1:

So if we buy good equipment, we are not handy and don't have a brain??

[DgenR8]

[chimp]

jmc74,
If you continue posting in this manner, you'll be removed from this community without further warning.

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