My new tank ADA 120p Vertical Gyre Style

[ianiwane]

Here it is all switched over from a planted tank. I have 3 koralia 4s creating the laminar flow. The tank is 48x18x18. I am getting flow that takes about 7 seconds from one end to the other of the tank. What do you guys think of the set up? I know a lot of you are against using overflow boxes (I have a aqualifter on the overflow box), but I did not want to risk drilling this tank b/c it is rimless. Also sorry for the cloudy water, I just added the salt directly to the tank.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/ianiwane/120psaltwater.jpg

Picture of pump setup
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/ianiwane/120ppumpsetup.jpg

Picture of the space behind the rocks to help create the gyre
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/ianiwane/120pback.jpg

[happyface888]

Thats a nice tank, going bare bottom?

[ianiwane]

Yeah bare bottom, I just like the clean look. Plus the flow would be too much for sand haha.

[brianbigoats]

the tank measurments you gave are for 67 gallon
i like the rock work

[Nuuze]

Any way you can drop the water level a bit? That may be running a bit too close to the edge once you put high flow.

[ianiwane]

Its about 67 or so. Actual dimensions is in centimeters. Its 120cm x 45cm x 45cm. Thanks the rock work took a while, haha. I had to epoxie some of the rocks together to get it to be more stable.

[jkreefer]

looks good man, love the look of the rimless and braceless top!

[ianiwane]

Nuuze I can drop it, I do have all the powerheads on though. haha

Thanks jkreefer, its been a while coming. I love the tank too.

[gw11ucb]

Looking good! It took 5 of us (planted guys) to clean up his tank and help him set this up :) Can't wait to see the tank when the livestocks go in. I am still waiting on my 50 gallons.

[ianiwane]

Yes it did, haha. Thanks to everyone that helped me (its not like many of them will be reading this though, LOL).

[SherryCobySam]

Ian if you can do 1/10 in salt that you do in planted fw, this will be incredible!!! I"m starting a nano, hopefully for dwarf seahorses and it is a different world. I am still struggling.. :)

[Elite]

Very nice rock work man... Do you think you have enough flow? How much flow do you have in the front? Have you checked out bookfish's setup? You see how the corners are round. That helps alot with flow. I think you lost ton of flow with the 90 degree corner.
http://reefhobbyistmagazine.com/discussion/index.php?topic=30.new#new

[fishnfst]

Looks good dude.. Is that with all the lights on?

[ianiwane]

Thanks Sherry, BTW I pmed you about the matto grosso a while back and never got a response. I got rid of all of them now :(. If you still want one I could tell my friend to send one to you once he grows them out.

Elite I was talking to Norman about that very point he felt that it wasn't necessary for me to round the corners. I am actually getting pretty good flow with the setup. I told him what kind of flow I was getting based on particle movement. He said the flow sounds pretty ideal.

[Elite]

Sound good :)
You might want to replace the clear tubing though. Algae will grow pretty fast in those clear tubes :).

[ianiwane]

lights are all on Doug. I had to turn down the exposure to stop everything from blowing out. haha


Yeah that is something to think about. Plus the clear tubing is not the easiest to work with. lol

[fishnfst]

I co uldn't see the brace for the overflow box... What did you guys end up doing?

[ianiwane]

Bill bent a black acrylic U to brace the box right over the glass. The force is up and down over the glass so no brace is needed from the bottom. Seems like it is working well.

[DarkXerox]

Nice stuff! Planning on putting a background on or no? Seems kind of ironic that you are a dentist and got an ADA tank haha. I didn't know Sullivan-Schein was selling tanks now! ;)

My only suggestion would be if you could replace the white PVC return with a black one as to match the rest of the hardware.

[ianiwane]

LOL, I got the dentist discount. JK. One more thing that I forgot to add, I also drilled holes for frag plugs all over the rock work. Not sure how well it will work but it was worth a try.

[Cozen89]

sweet looking tank. Wish I went rimless. That middle brace can be a pain at times. Looks good tho, keep us updated.

[Mr. Ugly]

Cool setup, Ian :)

I like it!

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10394383#post10394383 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ianiwane Elite I was talking to Norman about that very point he felt that it wasn't necessary for me to round the corners. I am actually getting pretty good flow with the setup. I told him what kind of flow I was getting based on particle movement. He said the flow sounds pretty ideal.
Yep. Ian's getting 17+ cm/sec, and that's with all the rocks in the system. The gyre tank article was talking about 15-22 cm/sec.

My 48x24x16 gyre prop tank is getting 15+ cm/sec. I'm running a couple Seio 620's and a couple stock MJ 1200's that I had laying around. Not bad for 56 watts of pumps.

So Ian's running the vertical gyre. I'm running a horizontal back to front gyre. Jim's running a horizontal right to left gyre.

[ianiwane]

Thanks Dave and Norman. I did lower the water level a bit. Any other sugestions anyone?

[bookfish]

Very nice tank. Good to see so many of us are embracing the new flow paradigm. One thing you could do (I hate when someone says that to me!) is attach a smooth plastic sheet to the back of your rockwork. That would minimize the bleed through and enhance the velocity of the gyre behind the rocks.
We should have a "gyre only" club!

[bookfish]

Hey Norm, could you repost the pics of my tank to this thread for me?
Thx-Jim

[raddogz]

Where did you get the rock?

[ianiwane]

Jim, I was thinking about doing that. I may still, it depends if I find that I need more flow.

Eileen, I got the rock from marcorocks.com
I told them what I was looking for and got sent the perfect rocks.

[GreshamH]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10396176#post10396176 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bookfish
Very nice tank. Good to see so many of us are embracing the new flow paradigm. One thing you could do (I hate when someone says that to me!) is attach a smooth plastic sheet to the back of your rockwork. That would minimize the bleed through and enhance the velocity of the gyre behind the rocks.
We should have a "gyre only" club!

New? Renewed interest maybe but not new/

[bookfish]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10396570#post10396570 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GreshamH
New? Renewed interest maybe but not new/

Very true, and I was saying to a mutual friend, how sad it is that our hobby gets stuck in the past in so many ways. "Random, turbulent flow" was the traditional line and led to any number of flow "improving" (actually reducing) devices.
I sort of meant new as in a newly (re)popularized trend. Not that the principle is new.

[ac green]

I was able to take a look at jims new setup and was pretty impressed with the amount of flow with a penductor, and such little wattage.