2x Sea Swirls or 1x Super Squirt

[Elite]

Which one will you pick? This will be connected to the return pump.

[sfsuphysics]

squirt without a doubt

[Elite]

Maybe I should ask why you pick what you pick :D ..

[sfsuphysics]

Basically the sea swirls rotate back and forth very close to the surface of a tank, your tank was 30" deep IIRC, so I would question how much useful current you'll get with those. With the squirt you really have the opportunity to plumb the outputs where ever you want, however with a sump return that does limit you to near the surface. But you'll get flow directed at the parts of the tank you want, not just a 90 arc sweeping back and forth.

[tuberider]

I agree with mike, the swirls are kinda bulky too.

[TikiDan]

I love my Super squirt compact! I am running 1200 GPH throught it and it wokrs great!

[chem-e]

I have a Squirt and it works great with my Mag 9.5 return. The SS is a nice product and it requires less plumbing, but I like how I can aim flow at specific areas with the Squirt.

[TikiDan]

From my return lines, I used 8 inches of modular hose / Lock line. So I can adjust anytime I want. It works great and only cost about 40 bucks to do it this way.

[Elite]

I like the Squirt too but plumbing is a PIA. With 2 Swirls, all I need is two pipes going up.

How will you guy plumb the Squirt? Two in the back and two in the front or all four in the back. Remember the max flow is about 1500GPH and the tank is 56x30x30. I will have two Tunze 6000s (might upgrade to 6100) on each side also.

[sfsuphysics]

If you are using a pump from the sump, do NOT plumb from the back very low in the tank unless your sump can handle the flow in the case of a power outage. I've heard people mention that no problem, some of the outputs are very close to the surface, problem with that in the case of a power outage, the drum ain't going to rotate anymore, so there's a chance it's locked in a position that'll cause a big mess :)

[Elite]

I don't get that Mike. You can always drill a hole into the pipe and that will break the siphon.

What about the drump stuck in a position that can cause a big mess??

[sfsuphysics]

Well if you have your pipes come into the back of the tank but high that's fine.. but if the pipes are low in the tank, drilling a hole isn't going to make much of a difference.

The sticking drum bit is if you have a power outage, it'll unstick once power comes back on, but I've seen people neglect that fact that the drum is electrically powered.

[Elite]

I thought if your return pipe is low in the tank, all you have to do is drill a hole near the water line and that will break the siphon.

Yeah the drum is electrically powered. I have one so I know that :D ..

[chem-e]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10142203#post10142203 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Elite
I like the Squirt too but plumbing is a PIA. With 2 Swirls, all I need is two pipes going up.

How will you guy plumb the Squirt? Two in the back and two in the front or all four in the back. Remember the max flow is about 1500GPH and the tank is 56x30x30. I will have two Tunze 6000s (might upgrade to 6100) on each side also.

Plumbing the Squirt it a little work and it's going to take a little trial and error before you find something you like. I don't have a standard rectangular tank, so I can't answer your location question. I guess it would depend on how you plan to mount your Tunzes. If you want your Tunzes mounted a particular way, you could use the Squirt to supplement the flow and hit all the dead spots if there are any or to mix up the flow from the Tunzes.

[sfsuphysics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10142892#post10142892 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Elite
I thought if your return pipe is low in the tank, all you have to do is drill a hole near the water line and that will break the siphon.


If you return pipe is low in the tank *AND* you're coming in through the back (also low) there ain't no pipe near the water surface to drill a hole in.

[Elite]

OH I got it now. It will be over the top and into the tank. I won't drill hole for return. Closelooop is fine but not return.