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Rijinals
01/12/2007, 04:32 PM
Do I basically get an overflow box (hang on) the same lph as the return pump in the sump to keep everything balanced? Or should one be less than the other?

I am thinking, overflow box running at 1500lph and the return pump running the same. Is this normal as I do not have any experiance with sumps. Its going on my 350l tank.

Cheers for feedback dudes!

rustybucket145
01/12/2007, 04:35 PM
I would say that overflow should be rated higher than return pump. But I use drilled tanks so that may be why I think that way. Never used a hang on before.

Think if a snail or urchin were to by chance crawl across the overflow temp. blocking some of the flow. Then you would have a real deal OVERFLOW!

Rijinals
01/12/2007, 04:44 PM
right got you. so what would be the best ratio out to in??

SaltyDr
01/12/2007, 04:49 PM
There is going to be a balance that is achieved where the drain will drain what it needs to based on the return. Therefore the drain needs to be able to handle (rated) at least as much as the return. There will be some head loss so calculate that in.

Rijinals
01/12/2007, 05:02 PM
So what about 1500lph overflow, and 1200lpf return?

TekCat
01/12/2007, 05:06 PM
it would work just fine. though you'd still probably need to throttle down the pump when you're going to tune the system. good luck

Rijinals
01/12/2007, 05:14 PM
Has anyone else got an overflow running with a sump? If so what ratio do you use?

danch
01/12/2007, 05:20 PM
I aimed for about 500gph return pump (after head loss) with a 600gph overflow. I also bought a ball valve to put in the return line just in case, but I haven't installed it yet.

As long as the overflow can handle all the flow that the pump can send, you'll be OK (barring stoppage in the overflow or drain, of course - there you have to make sure your sump can handle extra and can't source enough to overflow)

The only thing I'd do different putting it in an existing system would be to install the valve from the get-go.

TekCat
01/12/2007, 05:21 PM
I've had an HOB overflow on my old 55G tank, it was rated to 600GPH, I had a 500GPH pump, but had to throttle it down,,... it was sucking out water too fast from the sump, before overflow started drain at the same rate.... So, I think I had water moving at 300GPH. Which might not've been a bad idea, to have somewhat overrated overflow in case of emergency.

Rijinals
01/12/2007, 05:35 PM
ok got you, cheers dudes for the good advice! much appreciated!

SaltyDr
01/12/2007, 05:38 PM
Don't forget the siphon break in the return line!

Rijinals
01/12/2007, 05:41 PM
siphon break? is that just a hole in the line?

a4twenty
01/12/2007, 06:29 PM
yep :)