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Old 12/28/2007, 11:39 PM
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Damm that sucks. Hopefully you dont loose any live stock. J what king of external controller do you use?
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Old 12/28/2007, 11:39 PM
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Damm that sucks. Hopefully you dont loose any live stock. J what king of external controller do you use?
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Old 12/28/2007, 11:43 PM
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Well, I currently have Jallis but wehn I started my system I bought 3 Jalli controllers and 4 elements. I have purchased at least one more element since, currently have one good controller and one or two good elements.

When this last controller goes TU on me, I will switch to Medussa/AquaLogic...I am sick of frying controllers and elements. It really ticks me off, and that's why i use the double-up method. Even though I have fried at least 4 of the elements, I have never had a problem with the tank.
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Old 12/29/2007, 12:09 AM
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geez Paul, that reeks. $40? That's not the "lab" grade is it? As far as temp control goes, what I do is use an external controller but also hook it into teh Aquacontroller. That way it's a double check. If the AC probe is bad, it will energize the heater, but the heater probe will keep it from coming on until it needs to be. DOes that make sense?
hmm, can you go over that again? I use an acII, but not quite following you, how does the ext controller hook to the ac? the last sentence....lost me
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Old 12/29/2007, 12:31 AM
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No prob. Elliott.

AC Controller ---> Heater Controller ---> Heater Probe --->Heater Element

So the AC probe tells it that the tank is cool and the heater should turn on. It applies power to the outlet the heater controller is plugged into. So the heater controller has power now and its own probe. The question is, does its probe agree and allow the heater element to be powered on?

In this case, if either probe is faulty, you still have the backup probe. If the heater probe malfunction, the heater will only get power if the AC Controller probe allows it, and vice versa.

I hope that makse better sense, but I would be glad to discuss it more if needed.
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Old 12/29/2007, 12:38 AM
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but if the ac probe is faulty and does not power the outlet that the heater controller is plugged into, no heat right? so in this case no back up?
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Old 12/29/2007, 12:45 AM
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True, that's why you have two of them. But no heat is much better than super heat. I always run two heaters. I run 2 x 800W on my system.

Plus with the controller, you have alarms for out-of-state conditions. With mine there are audible alarms, email messages, and screen prompts at my office PC.
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Old 12/29/2007, 12:48 AM
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True, that's why you have two of them.
you run two ac's?
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Old 12/29/2007, 08:58 AM
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It figures it had to happen the week the temp was in the teens up here. I here you Jonathan. I should do a failsafe. Maybe break up the heaters instead of all running off one controller. It bites losing about $700 in one pop. Its going to be a while before I add any more corals.
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Old 12/29/2007, 11:01 AM
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Ouch. This is some hobby.. Way too uch time and $$$$
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Old 12/29/2007, 12:28 PM
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you run two ac's?
No sorry. I am not describing this too well. My fault. I run one heater/controller off the ACIII Pro, and one to regular house power. And I size them to be able to handle about 2/3 load. But you have to realize, mine don't run very often because of my water volume and high powered lamps.

I honestly don't have to rely on heaters much.
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Old 01/08/2008, 12:56 AM
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Hey Paul just got done reading your thread. Great job man!I love the skimmer, and reactor box idea you got off of Johnathan. Reading your thread brought me a little closer to the people here on RC. I am getting my 300 soon and am researching all the 300 systems on this forum. thank for the great pictures. Your work is wonderful. Happy New year
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Old 01/08/2008, 08:03 AM
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Thanks FFrankie

Not much to update here. The ich is gone from all the fish in hypo. They still have another month to go so the fish and main tank can get rid off all those buggers.

Now that the sps are gone the reef looks pretty sad with just a few lps.
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Old 01/08/2008, 03:55 PM
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Over the years i found the joy for me was the build and adding corals. Now that i have complete my 120 i am bored to death! Just think of all the wonderful corals your going to get to re-stock with! I am excited for you I will refrain from posting a picture of The Shelf. I could fill a tank with the losses up there. (but my wife seems to like those best. (if she only knew the cost of her shelf )
 

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