The "Hitchhiker's Guide" to the Maxi-Stream mod - Page 4

Rustylugnuts · #76 11/20/2006, 07:07 PM

I love browsin through the DIY section and finding projects like this. One quick question. What type of prop would be good for a mj 400. I would love to tinker with and get around 500 gph ea on a couple mj streams for a 29 gal.

Rustylugnuts · #77 11/20/2006, 07:08 PM

or would it be better to plumb a CL on on a mag5

Rustylugnuts · #78 11/20/2006, 07:31 PM

K did some reading on some more previous posts and it looks like the 2 would be way overkill for a 29. Anybody think that 1 modded mj400 w/a mild to moderately sanded down prop work ok? (any suggestions on which prop to use?)

Rustylugnuts · #79 11/20/2006, 07:49 PM

"READ THE WHOLE THING BEFORE YOU TYPE!!!! AYE YI YI!!!!"
Monkey_Bone

looks like its all there

guess ill be in for a long read i vote we carve up a condensed version and make it a sticky!

dhnguyen · #80 11/20/2006, 08:03 PM

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Originally posted by Rustylugnuts
...carve up a condensed version and make it a sticky!

When you find out how to do that let me know

As for the MJ400. Your best bet is a Dumas 3002 propeller (1.25" diameter)

D.

Rustylugnuts · #81 11/20/2006, 08:13 PM

TYVM!

Glad i have a buddy who will let me hijack his woodshop fulla tools

effect · #82 11/20/2006, 08:25 PM

Looking to do two of these in my 90 gallon megaflow when I set it up, and want to go bare bottom this time. Would two of the high flow kits for the 1200 off MJ mods along with around 6-700 GPH through the sump/fuge be enough flow. I don’t see why not just want some feed back.

These look like a good alternitive to a closed loop.

dhnguyen · #83 11/20/2006, 08:37 PM

depending what you keep in that 90g, 2 MJ1200 high flo kits most likely would be too much IMO.

D.

RichConley · #84 11/20/2006, 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by dhnguyen
depending what you keep in that 90g, 2 MJ1200 high flo kits most likely would be too much IMO.

D.

WUSSES.

I've got 2 1200 high flow bell housing kits, and 1 900 octura 1435 kit in my 58 gallon.

dhnguyen · #85 11/20/2006, 08:49 PM

yeah but you're insane Rich we all know that

twon8 · #86 11/21/2006, 01:11 AM

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Originally posted by RichConley
WUSSES.

I've got 2 1200 high flow bell housing kits, and 1 900 octura 1435 kit in my 58 gallon.

are any of the pumps on a timer/wavemaker/controller?

if not that is just ridiculous, somewhere approaching 150x in tank turnover

i am confident that these move at least 3500 gph, and likely more than that. when holding it underwater it pushes back way more than a 6100.

here is what marvin said about the 1200 w dumas 3004 i placed into his 125g frag tank that has 6100's on each end

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Originally posted by Atlantis Aquariums
It definitely blew away the 6100 that Anthony placed it beside. Without having any proof I believe the one Twon had was pretty much equal to a 6200. Then again it is not controllable and costs about $400 less..... Just my initial impression and look forward to playing around with more.

Marvin

a friend of mine, vince, has a 600 gallon reef tank, he has been keeping reefs since 1990. the tank has 2x 6200's and he put it into his 600 gallon right next to a 6200 and he had his hand going back and forth, comparing them and he thought that it was at least equal to the 6200. it puts out a lot of flow, in a very wide pattern.

twon8 · #87 11/21/2006, 01:18 AM

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Originally posted by effect
Looking to do two of these in my 90 gallon megaflow when I set it up, and want to go bare bottom this time. Would two of the high flow kits for the 1200 off MJ mods along with around 6-700 GPH through the sump/fuge be enough flow. I don’t see why not just want some feed back. These look like a good alternitive to a closed loop.

I think two would be a tremendous amount of flow if your bb, but not needed till things grow a bit imo. I feel that you would be fine with one modded for now, and you could put a cut nozzle maxijet on a timer to add some randomness and change to the flow. in a few months add a second mod.

I would go with much less gph from the return, somewhere around 200gph is plenty.

onetrickpony · #88 11/21/2006, 12:45 PM

Has any one used a Pentair quite one 800 pump for a prop mod

Patented Uni-Direction impeller eliminates need for noisy mechanical device.
This allows the pump to always turn in the correct direction immediately.
http://www.pentairaquatics.com/produ...ne/Q1_800.html

Thanks
Ken

effect · #89 11/21/2006, 07:18 PM

Thanks for the ideas. The tank for a while will be only rock and reef safe fish. After that few softies and some SPS. I may put these on a timer and have them alternating on and off every 6 hours; tidal flows??. Just want it right this time. Moving tank into my new house(new to me

) and last time I had it set up with a wetdry and 5 power heads in it. And a sand bed.

coreno16 · #90 11/21/2006, 09:37 PM

Have any of you guys painted your mjs black with a product like krylon fusion to match the new style shroud? I'm wondering how it would look before I go out and paint these.

- Cory

dhnguyen · #91 11/21/2006, 09:38 PM

It would look fine.

RichConley · #92 11/22/2006, 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by twon8
are any of the pumps on a timer/wavemaker/controller?

if not that is just ridiculous, somewhere approaching 150x in tank turnover

i am confident that these move at least 3500 gph, and likely more than that. when holding it underwater it pushes back way more than a 6100.

Whats a wavemaker? :-P

Nope, just all running constantly. I'm thinking about putting the 900 on a wavemaker/timer though.

twon8 · #93 11/22/2006, 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by RichConley
Whats a wavemaker? :-P

Nope, just all running constantly. I'm thinking about putting the 900 on a wavemaker/timer though.

i had to take out the dumas 3004 driven 1200 out of my 90 to put two 900 driving a 1435; with the 6100 in there already i wanted more flow sources than the super flow of the 1200 with dumas would allow.

JMBoehling · #94 11/22/2006, 11:32 AM

Twon,

Think (02) 3004's in my 90 will be too much flow? I am replacing my Seio1500's.. Just ordered my (02) 1200 MAXI'S...

RichConley · #95 11/22/2006, 11:55 AM

JMBoehling, if you're BB, and mostly SPS, I wouldnt worry about it.

They move drastically more water than those 1500s do, though.

Snarkys · #96 11/22/2006, 12:19 PM

not sure if this is everywhere but the ace hardware near my house is giving away rotary tools for free the day after thanksgiving. They are $9.99 with a $9.99 rebate.

not bad if ya don't already own one.

Malifluous · #97 11/22/2006, 01:57 PM

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Originally posted by dhnguyen
When you find out how to do that let me know

As for the MJ400. Your best bet is a Dumas 3002 propeller (1.25" diameter)

D.

How does one connect the Dumas 3002 to a MJ? The ID of the Dumas is so small that you can barely get the rod thru it let alone any rigid tubing.

Snarkys · #98 11/22/2006, 01:58 PM

i have never figured that out either : )

hahnmeister · #99 11/22/2006, 01:59 PM

I have bored out the center with a 3/16" drill bit, and then cemented the prop to the shaft, FWIW. You are correct, the shaft on the 3002 is a little bit too small.

Snarkys · #**100** 11/22/2006, 02:01 PM

the smaller octuras are just big enough to go over the .180 CF tube when drilled out . not sure if they would work with the airline or .188 tube.