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Ca- 500 mg-1500 alk-12 ph 8.3-8.4 sr-30 I forgot but they also watch iodine. You will have to find the original post for that one. I think it is .06. |
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questa è la vasca di alberto santilli, senza gh... [IMG]www.ImageShack.us" />[/IMG] [IMG]www.ImageShack.us" />[/IMG] |
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Is there any evidence that corals have receptors for HGH? Is HGH stable and functional at the pH, salt concentration, and temperature that an aquarium is kept at, since the internal human environment is quite different than the internal aquarium environment?
Is there any science backing the use of HGH for growth on species besides mammals, i.e. do human hormones have the ability to cross species gaps as vast as that between humans and corals. Anyway these are rhetorical questions, . BTW, nice tanks, too bad the voodoo has to interject. Last edited by solbby; 12/14/2006 at 02:42 AM. |
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If the theory is that HGH is broken down to amino acids then why not use BSA? BSA = Bovine serum albumin. Much less expensive, highly concentrated in amino acids when degraded, readily available, and less wasteful from a human perspective, but I guess Italy is a rich country with lots of recombinant genetic labs at the aquarist's beckon call. But then again why use a protein at all, since pharmacies sells amino acids?
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They already stated somewhere in this thread that some are working to identify the individual amino acids so that they could be dosed separately, without the "need" for using HGH
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What would it take to get some lab tests on what we are discussing here? maybe you can show us proof just like you did in the past with ZEOvit. |
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Where can I find the information on Zeovit that you referenced in your last post?
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Hi invincible!!! What would you want to test? specifically? Right now I am doing a bacterial analysis of different aquariums bacterioplankton populations. I have about 10 tanks involved, and would like to involve a zeovit system run tank.
As for amino acids, I know where I would start. I am sure that many here have already seen this paper. Quote:
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So in conclusion from the thoughts above, we have a internally synthesized pool of amino acids created via photosynthesis and secondary metabolism and an amino acid that is naturally limited in coral tissue (no storage) but is also the most abundant within the coral organic matrix.
And this amino acid must be supplied externally. In nature this occurs via active feeding by corals. |
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It would be interesting to look at the amino acid profile of the shellfish diet the Italians are feeding.
L-Aspartic acid is a relatively inexpensive supplement. Was there any quantified data in any of these studies. i.e. how much of the aspartate was actually layed down? This would help with figuring out a dose. |
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Ok, I've read the entire post now, my brain feels like jello. So if I read this right, you combine everything together, mussel,oyster,shrimp,clam with the fructose and ro/di water and freeze it. Feed every three days. Or do you add the fructose to the tank 4 hrs before feeding then feed with the cubes. My plan would be to use a glutamine, which if I got this right is where the amino acids come from?
On another forum a guy made a mush of jarred/canned oysters and glutamine with very good result. Showed growth pics over a 30 day period. I have a tank full of acros/sps which are growing ok, but would like to give this a 60-90 day run to see results. |
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I want to start off by saying thanks to all of the information shared here. I have gone through this thread and read it several times. After reading this thread for hunredth time, I decided to try amino acid aproach since HGH is illegal here. So I went to the GNC and bought a very basic body building product. I used the basic shellfish recipe and added body building supplement. I fed my first cube on Tuesday. Well tonight, I saw the most amazing thing happen. I was sitting in my lazyboy chair by my tank and saw my two dersa clams start to spawn. This has never happened before in my tank. There has to be something to this. I have had SPS tanks for 5 years now and I have never had my clams spawn before.
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probabilmente però sei tu che gestisci bene la vasca e questo ti ha portato ad ottenere questi risultati...per il pappone continua a darlo e vedrai che ti troverai bene! ciao!!! |
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Thats an old thread. It was probably under the Captive Oceans forum which is no more. Maybe someone saved a link. |
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Could someone translate the last few posting please. I would really apreciate it.
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Congratulazioni!!!!!!probabilmente per� six you that you manage the bathtub and this well has carried you to obtain these turns out to you... for the continuous glutton to give it and will see that you will find yourself well!
Robert, saccarosio or the fructose, depends from which you prefer, you can put it in the glutton directly. Servants not to dose it 4 hours before... casomai you can dose 1-2 hours pirma of the glutton, a p� of amino acids... goes also the glutammina well |
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Ok the Italian to English translations still make no sence to me. Can someone break down what is going on in this thread?
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