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Old 11/30/2006, 11:22 PM
Twins Guy Twins Guy is offline
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oh snap...awesome tank reefer! mdt as well...

i don't have any decent current pics but i also have a single 250DE (maristar fixture with supplemental t5 actinics) over my 58g (36L x 18W x 2x H) i love it for efficiency purposes, and my mixed reef is doing very well-sps included...

i think sptfire makes a good point about the benefits of multiple point sources of light (mult bulbs)...not that sps cannot do well with a single halide (obviously after viewing this thread)...

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Old 11/30/2006, 11:27 PM
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oh snap...awesome tank reefer! mdt as well...

i don't have any decent current pics but i also have a single 250DE (maristar fixture with supplemental t5 actinics) over my 58g (36L x 18W x 2x H) i love it for efficiency purposes, and my mixed reef is doing very well-sps included...


tg
Twins Guy,

Come on..... We need a pic! I am setting up a 58g with a 400w metal halide and would like to see what yours looks like.

Great tanks everyone, I've enjoyed looking at this thread.
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Old 12/01/2006, 01:28 AM
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wait, tankreefer, are you using a light rail that's motor powered?

where can I get one? I'm thinking of mounting my mh on one as well.

thanks
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Old 12/01/2006, 02:47 AM
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Wow the last few tanks that just posted up are amazing. That 240g cube would be awesome to have..
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Old 12/01/2006, 02:53 AM
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i've found the solution to us single halide users:
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...pc=1&N=0&Nty=1

This saves a whole ton of money. Instead of spending say $600 for a dual halide + actinic pendant (just an average) over an open top tank (thus no crude retrofits), just spend the $250 on a single 250watt hqi, get a $200 light rail, saving you some money up front, and energy costs in the long run. Less wattage, less electricity on the light, less heat on the tank, less use of the chiller =)

the rails look a bit tacky themselves, probably need a coat of white paint.
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Old 12/01/2006, 09:41 AM
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wow... do you have 6 BTAs in there?
10 for now. It went from 1 to 10 in a year.

reefer714,
lovely tank. it has everything i wanted and more. well, except for the elec bill. how long has it been up?

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Old 12/01/2006, 09:51 AM
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reefer714,
lovely tank. it has everything i wanted and more. well, except for the elec bill. how long has it been up?
My tank has been up since July 29 2006. The picture was taking on July 29 right after i have the light hook up. I like my lighting setup, i don't want to have too many pendant hanging over the top. Here is some pic of my tank in Nov



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Old 12/01/2006, 09:53 AM
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Top pic was taking with VHO supp (4x48"). Bottom pic is without VHO, just 20k Ushio bulb 1000w.
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Old 12/01/2006, 09:58 AM
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oh my, very nice.
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Old 12/01/2006, 12:49 PM
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That tank is inspiring to look at. There is so much potential with the aquascape and you killed it with the equipment. Very well done.
I bet you cant wait till its set up a little longer, lots of room for corals to grow around one another, and we all know Cali has all the hot colorful corals to fill your tank with. It looks like the results are nothing but positive with the 1000 watt halide and light mover. Good color as well as growth, Right?
Im very close to getting back in the SPS game for myself and will be keeping and eye on this tank for sure.
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Old 12/01/2006, 12:59 PM
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That is bloody gorgeous! Could you describe your light mover a bit?
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Old 12/01/2006, 01:02 PM
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Yea that tank is out of control...
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Old 12/01/2006, 03:59 PM
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Light movers are awesome b/c they basically eliminate the dark areas and allow corals to be full color on all sides. One other option, though it would probably be more expensive is to mount 2 400w over say your 55. Run the left for 2hrs, then have it go off and the one on the right come on for 2hrs and so on throughout the day. It's commonly used in indoor hydroponics to create fuller plants and increase vegitable harvest all the while cutting the electric bill in half. It is refered to as running an "Inverse lighting scheem". I believe this will work just as good on a reef tank as it does in the GH .
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Old 12/01/2006, 06:31 PM
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I have a 58 gallon tank as well, I was going to use a single 400W over it in a Lumenarc pendant but opted for dual 150s instead.
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Old 12/01/2006, 10:08 PM
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Unarce, Thanks for the kind word. With light mover the corals colored up very nicely all around. As far as growth with 1000watter, is awesome. My corals grow extremely fast. Most of my corals came from an inch frag a year ago and most of them now become large colony.

When i first heard of 1000watter, i thought it is nut for someone to run such powerful light. I also heard bad thing about 1000w which is bleaching or killing corals. But with the mover method, it work very well for me.
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Old 12/01/2006, 10:27 PM
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what kind of light mover are you using?
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Old 12/02/2006, 12:34 AM
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I'm using the Rapelli(spelling?) 5rpm motor from SLS, Lumamax reflector from SLS cover 4x4. You can get the motor and rail from Hydrofarm cheaper and they made better ballast then SLS IMO. I paid 500 bucks for my SLS future brite ballast and it doesn't fire any halide bulb but M47 standard magnetic bulb. I'm very happy with my Powerhouse ballast from Hydrofarm now since it will fire any bulb, cost only half of the price and 8yrs warranty
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Old 12/02/2006, 09:01 AM
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I have 5 1000w mh ballasts that I use in hydroponics, just don't have any tank big enough for one yet. I have 2 powerhouse by hydrofarm and 3 sun systems 1 ballasts. The sun systems are silent compared to the hydrofarms and give off about the same heat as other 400w ballasts I have(I have too much lighting crap). Both types fire any type of mh bulb and I think the SS ballasts cost about $325 w/ sun grow reflectors and 6500k bulbs. I'm not hating on hydrofarm, just telling my experiences. The thing that I can't get over is the going rate for a 1000w 20k bulb. It's ridiculous.
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Old 12/02/2006, 10:18 AM
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hahaha stoney, whenever you need another Sun system 1 let me know. i have a 3 months old ballast want to get rid of . Ushio 20K isn't that expensive. I paid 125 each, is that how much you paid? I also have the Helios 20k and Hamilton 14k and Ushio 20 they all about a month old or so. Let me know if you want it, i'll send them your way.
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Old 12/04/2006, 08:23 PM
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Looking great guys!

REEFER714: GREAT TANK! Looks fantastic!

Well, everyone managed to motivate me and finally kick my thought into gear. I went out and bought a light rail today. 6 Rpm Light Rail, Intellidrive 3.5. It is manufactured by Gualala Robotics. I'll only have it moving 2ft back and forth over my 4ft tank supplemented with T5's. 400W bulb in an LAIII should cover it nicely, haha. The website is www.lightrail3.com.

Cant wait to get this unit running over the tank! Mind you, I need the tank first, which I just ordered today

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Old 12/04/2006, 09:14 PM
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single 250w 10k luminarc, no actinics yet .. tank at 6 months.
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Old 12/04/2006, 10:31 PM
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Your tank looks like it has a lot of potential. I would not put any supplementation over it maybe just switch to a 12k or 14k if you really think you need more blue. I think the color of the tank looks perfect now.
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Old 12/05/2006, 10:34 PM
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What do you need actinics for? Your corals could care less if you use them, your halide emits plenty of 420nm light. When 10Ks first came out people thought they were too blue, now the bluer the better. I like the look of 10K, it looks natural, not like the abyss.
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Old 12/06/2006, 02:37 AM
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I believe that you can color up corals under damn near any light. I like actinics for only dawn dusk and not even so much for the reason of it. Its more like a little longer time to look at the tank.
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Old 12/06/2006, 10:25 PM
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I agree, my light just switched off and I wasn't done looking.
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