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08/27/2007, 05:35 PM
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new to the reef
hi everyone i was just looking for some feedback
i am a long time keeper of large cichlids like oscars,red devils,midas,trimacs flowerhorns things like that and about a month ago i started a small 20 gallon reef and wanted to tell you guys what i had and maby find out what i need to keep things going good lighting is a nova extreme 24" 48 watt t5 high output 2 bulbs in it 1 10,000k daylight t5ho 1 460nm actinic t5ho i have no clue what that is but thats what the box says i have a heater that keeps the tank at about 76 deg filter is an aquaclear30 that i have changed from a three stage filter to a refugium 25lbs live sand from bahamas 25-30 lbs live rock from fiji live stock is as follows 1 green mandirin goby 2 yellowtail damsels 1 3 bar damsel 2 green chromies 2 black with yellow tail chromies 1 clown fish 1 sally light foot crab 1 emerald crab i green brital star 2 anemonies not sure what kind(maybe you guys can help me on that too) 1 rock full oh mushrooms not sure what kind a few coral frags 2 turbo snails i think mexican and about 25 blue leg hermit crabs and a red star not sure what kind so here are some pics let me know what you think http://cichlidforums.com/showthread....threadid=26287 just copy and paste i cant get the pics on here
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08/27/2007, 06:24 PM
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make sure your putting live copepods into the tank for your mandrian goby, they really should be put into a well established system (a year or more)
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08/27/2007, 06:34 PM
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i got this stuff frome my lfs in a bag that has like 20,000 micro organisims in it i got three of them and they saidthat it would make copopods and stuff and that since i have the fuge i would not need to put any more in the tank but i will get live copopds for him still
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08/27/2007, 07:15 PM
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damn a lfs that told him something right about a mandrian good for them.
maybe to many fish for that size tank. and the star fish the red one will most likely starve they are really for reefs over 200 gal imo. |
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08/28/2007, 03:58 PM
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in that case he will be going back to the place i got him in the morning that is the last thing that i want is for something to die because of my lack of study but now i know and thanks
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08/28/2007, 04:36 PM
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What kind of filtration do you have? Do you have a skimmer? I'm a little concerned about the high-biload (amount of livestock) in that tank. Have any powerheads for flow?
If I were you I'd consider purchasing a good skimmer, add a couple small powerheads to the tank, sell back a few of the fish, and look into a lighting upgrade if you want to keep the anemones. Sorry that that LFS may have gotten you in a little over your head. They'll pretty much tell you anything is possible if they think you want to do it and will often give "half truths". Make sure to do all your research on a site like this and ask people here before buying or making big decisions. Good luck! Nick |
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08/28/2007, 04:47 PM
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Yeah, I don't ever want to be the bearer of bad news to someone new in the hobby, but you are waaaaaayy overstocked. I, too, came from the world of cichlid keeping, and saltwater is ridiculously unforgiving compared to that. You can't stock saltwater tanks to anywhere near the capacity you can stock a cichlid tank. Definitely get a decent skimmer, look around on here so you don't waste your money on a cr@ppy one.
Seriously get rid of some of the fish. The damsels will murder the chromis and eventually the clown will likely murder the damsels. The mandarin will undoubtedly slowly starve, through no fault of your own. The anemones need a lot of light, so I'd say they are a "no-go" for now. I would definitely get rid of the mandarin and the anemones, probably the damsels, and definitely get a good skimmer, live rock for filtration. Good luck! Ben |
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08/28/2007, 06:20 PM
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A 55 with all of that would be plenty of space. Still need better lights (if you keep the anemones), a skimmer, and some rock, but none of that is an absolute immediate necessity. Don't get me wrong, you need it, but as long as you get that stuff sometime in the near future, everything should be fine. Except the anemones, get better lights now or get rid of the anemones, I think. Honestly, as stated above, you really need a LOT of rock for a mandarin because you need all of the critters that will populate the rock for him to eat. He'll probably live for a good long while (maybe not), but not long-term in that set-up.
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