B-Ionic...why dilute??

[askolded]

Just bought my first supposedly 1 gallon containers of the 2 part additive B-ionic. I've been buying the 32oz. containers for the last couple of years and I was taken by suprise when I received two half filled, 1 gallon containers of each suppliment.

Why do I have to dilute this concentrated solution, can't I just add half the recommended dosage?? Looking for input before I engage the RO/DI filter.

[JetCat USA]

they do that to save you on shipping costs, the concentration is of a quantity that you have undissolved residue inside the containers, add the RO/DI water, shake to mix and then dose the normal required amount to keep your levels up.

[askolded]

I understand HOW to dilute the solutions, my question is why bother? Now that I have a more concentrated sollution I should be able to use half the dosage. Why double the volume so I can add twice the amount...I could add 10 more gallons to each container but then I would have to add a dosage that was twenty times larger. Maybe its just me but it seems like a waste of time and effort.

[bertoni]

If there's no undissolved material at the bottom of the container, diluting it might not be necessary, although dilution might still help prevent precipitation issues by lowering the local concentration of the supplemented compound.

[JetCat USA]

Originally posted by askolded
I understand HOW to dilute the solutions, my question is why bother?

IF you'd of bothered to keep reading above.........

Originally posted by JetCat USA
.......... the concentration is of a quantity that you have undissolved residue inside the containers,

[capn_hylinur]

IMO you are getting undissolved residues confused with dilute solutions--not the same thing at all.
Just shaking up a concentrated solution won't ensure that the undissolved residues recombine. Adding the r/o water ensures that the concentrated solution is no longer saturated so that shaking it at that point will dissolve any precipitates.

[JetCat USA]

even when the RO/DI is added it's at a concentration that you get crystallization on the bottom and it needs shaking before use.

[allengy]

If it's ok not to add the water, I wonder why they wouldn't just sell it in bottles half the size and change the dosage on the instructions?

[capn_hylinur]

Originally posted by allengy
If it's ok not to add the water, I wonder why they wouldn't just sell it in bottles half the size and change the dosage on the instructions?

I thought that was the purpose of the 32 ouncers

[JetCat USA]

It's NOT OK to not add the water, there is undissolved residue in the bottom of the containers, in order to get that into solution you have to add the appropriate amount of water, the 32oz size containers are already properly diluted. is this really that complicated to some of you??

[capn_hylinur]

Originally posted by JetCat USA
It's NOT OK to not add the water, there is undissolved residue in the bottom of the containers, in order to get that into solution you have to add the appropriate amount of water, the 32oz size containers are already properly diluted. is this really that complicated to some of you??

not to me JetCat--

use the 32oz size add it directly to your sump---measured dose of number one followed (in a min or so) by a measured dose of number 2.

[moo0o]

this post made me laugh =)

[A.T.T.R]

lmao wow how many more times and differen ways can it be explained


it is a half gallon of chemicals that are unusable until dilute

i bet you also add water to salt dont you ?

[JetCat USA]

Originally posted by A.T.T.R

i bet you also add water to salt dont you ?

if you don't do you just use half the amount of salt??

[capn_hylinur]

Gotta ask why are guys resorting to sarcastic and condesending remarks?

there is a reasonable confusion here
the 32 oz bionic is already in diluted solution so you can add it directly to your tank---they even supply a measuring cup with each bottle

the gallon jugs have to be topped up with r/o water--there is even a level provided on the containers.

in my opionion that because someone doesn't get the jist of your answer the first time, it doesn't allow you to start rediculing the poster(s)

[allengy]

Gotta ask why are guys resorting to sarcastic and condesending remarks?

Because it makes them feel good.

All I was trying to say is that they wouldn't put the stuff in one gallon containers half full if it was ok to use it like that. I thought the original poster asked a valid question.

[JetCat USA]

and that question was answered multiple times yet failed to be grasped.

[capn_hylinur]

Originally posted by JetCat USA
and that question was answered multiple times yet failed to be grasped.

Jetcat---i don't mean to argue with you here and I am fully appreciative of all the help you have given me----but I guess from a teachers point of view I never have gotten anywhere in 37 years by using sarcasim and ridicule----

and yes I have bumped into many adults and students who 'just don't get it "

[JetCat USA]

Yes Sir! I'll work on my people skills

[capn_hylinur]

Originally posted by JetCat USA
Yes Sir! I'll work on my people skills

ok I'll cancel the five work detentions at BA's