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09/08/2005, 10:54 PM
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There isn't conclusive proof, but there is plenty of anecdotal evidence to make me worried about introducing a sick magnifica in with a healthy one. People here have had healthy magnificas show signs of disease after a second anemone was introduced and died.
It just makes sense from the symptoms that these guys show that it is some kind of infection that takes hold. If there is a bacteria that infects these guys and contributes to the high death rate, I would be surprised if it couldn't be transmitted. I do not know of anyone who has looked into this other than the success with antibiotic treatment at the Atlantis aquarium and a few hobbyists who have tried it. Magnificas just fascinate me like nothing else in this hobby, and I hope I can someday get answers to some of these questions. Until that time I'm just trying to protect my healthy magnifica from my impulse buying and rescue attempts 
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09/08/2005, 11:09 PM
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As for the anemone, it is hanging in there. It closes its mouth tight when I swish the tenticles and the tenticles are moving a bit, so I'm not giving up completely.
I think I will risk transfering it to the display for the flow after the antibiotic treatment. I just havn't been able to figure out a way to get good random flow in a QT, never mind the fact that I don't have a good light to use without some major work. I plan on suspending it above the rockwork so it is easy to remove if nessecary, it is close to the light, won't touch corals, and I won't have to change the aquascape. |
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09/09/2005, 02:27 PM
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Keep us updated Cindy! I'm keeping fingers crossed for ya.
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09/09/2005, 03:49 PM
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09/09/2005, 05:27 PM
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fwiw: I use a natural wave timer power strip with 2 little air pumps to create surge. I have had less issues with larger air bubbles getting trapped inside the anemone when they gape as well.
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09/09/2005, 10:08 PM
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what about a few limewood airstones they produce a ton of bubbles they should move the nen good.
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09/09/2005, 10:10 PM
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The fine air bubbles tend to get caught in an anemone with an open mouth....not pretty.
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09/09/2005, 10:14 PM
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10/06/2005, 04:19 PM
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Unfortunately it didn't make it. It was way too far gone.
For the geeks among us, I really think that something happens to the mesogloea between the ectoderm and the endoderm when these guys are sick. You can see something going on and the layers of tissue slide against each other. The tenticles seem to be hollow shells of just the ectoderm with nematocysts. |
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10/06/2005, 04:43 PM
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WEll I just ordered another one from live-aquaria. It came in looking like a pile of due yesterday, and not moving. After acclimatiing it for about 5 hours, it seems to have a bit of life. Not inflating or anything, but I'm going to administer the anti's to it and see what happens. If it turns out for the better I will post a thread with pics.
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10/06/2005, 06:33 PM
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Personally I think most of the trouble we are having with anemones is time in transit, number of intermediate stops, and general handling in the distribution channel. If there was a way you could order direct from the collectors, and have the animal overnighted to your doorstep, I doubt we would have the same problems.
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10/07/2005, 08:55 AM
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WEll when I first got as I said it was not moving and was completly deflated. It looked like it had a purple boot and the tips of the tentacles looked pink. Everything was squared off. I aclimated it to the water in my tank via drip method over about 4-5hours. I then grabbed a net and placed it in the tank in a net prison. Upon lifting it and placing it in the tank, it immediately started to ease a white smokey looking substance into the water out of two tubes located somewhere around its mouth.
It looked as though a gas bomb had went off and the smoke was oosing. WEll this didn't last long, soon after it just deflated back to a small mesh. I really didn't think it was going to last much longer. I did not take amny pics of the anemone at this point, because it was dark in the room and I was more concerned in getting it in the tank. I think I took one or two, but the lighting was not good so you couldn't see anything. Well to my amazement the next day it was stuck to the side of the mesh prison. Inflated some what. I didn't look like it was purple anymore, I cant really tell yet what color the boot was. Oh and I couldn't see the pink tips anymore either. I did snap a shot of it though from the top of the tank.
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02/07/2006, 08:45 PM
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Bumping to provide info requested by pm
Still not sure how I feel on the whole antibiotic issue, but it deserves looking into someday. Anyone have any grant money burning a hole in their pocket? |
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12/30/2007, 02:08 PM
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hey phender...you're a teacher...how about doing a lesson on petri dishes, specimen collection, microscope use, fungus, bacteria and viruses with a little sterility and cross contamination thrown in?
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01/02/2008, 08:01 PM
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Flighty & Phender,
I can only add my experiances to the thread, maybe they'll help, maybe they wont. Here goes... Purchased 1st H.magnifica from phishybusiness. After a week or two of touch and go behavior, (deflating and generally looking like crap for a few hours while acclimating to my lighting), the anemone began doing great. After about a year, I found another one for sale from another online vender. I got this anemone in and it looked a little rough, so I hurried through the acclimation and put it in the tank. The only other thing I added to the tank during this time was a Red Sea Regal Angel. The new H.mag did not make it. Shortly before it died, my healthy one began to show the same symptoms as the new one, flacid tentacles, slack mouth, tentacles withdrawing inside themselves almost like fingerless gloves. I was pretty upset since I'd had this anemone for over a year at this point. I talked to one of the LFS guys here in StL who seems to have better than average luck with anemones in his store. He stated he dips all anemones in Doxicyclene for about 8 hours after they arrive from the shipment. He said his wholesaler told him to do it for best results. I was able to beg a couple of doxicyclene pills from him. Took the once healthy, now sick H.mag, and placed it into a specimen container with a dox pill, (100 mgs), added an airstone. The nem began to slime and with the airstone, I had a foam dox bath going in short order. After 5 hours, I did a 100% water change, and used another Dox pill. Left the nem in that mix for another 12 hours. The nem made a full recovery and I still have it. I decided then and there that I would dip all incoming nems to prevent another cross contamination. Hope that helps, Nick
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