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Old 09/10/2007, 08:36 AM
winland winland is offline
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Glue Magfloat to Powerhead?

What type of glue or epoxy should I use to afix a magfloat to my powerheads? Will normal super glue (Gel) be sufficient or should I use an epoxy? Can I use Devcon Epoxy, is it reef safe or some other brand of epoxy?

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Old 09/10/2007, 09:55 AM
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Super glue gel will not work......a tleast not for very long.

Im not familiar with Devcon but any two part epoxy should work. What I have done to make sure when gluing heavy things to magfloats is to score the surface of the magfloat as wewll as whatever it is im gluing to it.......give the epoxy something to stick to
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Old 09/10/2007, 10:30 AM
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Super glue gel will not work......a tleast not for very long.
I'm going on 2 years now. I wouldnt consider that "not for very long"
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Old 09/10/2007, 12:00 PM
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you are special though Rich. You have this uncanny ability to argue in nearly every post you make.

I wouldnt recommend using super glue gel when epoxy will maek a much stronger bond. Of course.....we didnt mention what kind of powewrhead...some are of course bigger than others......

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Old 09/10/2007, 12:15 PM
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I am going to be attaching a MagFloat 350 to a Seio 1100 powerhead. I will play it safe and use an epoxy instead of superglue.
Thanks guys.

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Old 09/10/2007, 12:17 PM
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You really dont want to mess around, especially if you have a sandbed. A powerhead dropping and blowing around the core of a older sandbed can create some serious problems.

Good luck
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Old 09/10/2007, 12:45 PM
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You really dont want to mess around, especially if you have a sandbed. A powerhead dropping and blowing around the core of a older sandbed can create some serious problems.

Good luck
Superglue bonds pretty well if the surface is prepared properly. I am running some nice big maximods that run dumas 3004 props, pushing 2000+gph. They've been running 2 years.


I'm not here to argue, I'm here because you're making absurd claims about things you have no experience with, and I have a problem with that.
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Old 09/10/2007, 12:55 PM
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I'm not here to argue, I'm here because you're making absurd claims about things you have no experience with, and I have a problem with that.

LOL. Really??? There you go making another claim about that which YOU know nothing about. Last week you claimed that I wasnt seeing iron rust inside some of my my plumbing. Now you are clainming that I havent the experience you do gluing things.
Im pretty sure I have glued a whole lot more magnet contraptions in reef tanks than you have...but htas just a guess...... So you once glued a MJ mod successfully using superglue gel....its not the best or the easiest way to do it.

Lets see a pic of your tank Rich. Last I checked....you wont post any. Lets see your vast experience in action....theat exeprience that gives you the so called right right to argue with everybody and everything on the boards.

You dont have very many friends in real life or the boards do you Rich??

Anyway...sorry for that....Rich makes me laugh.....I was just trying to give the best advice to someone wanting to make a magnet mount for the first time.

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Old 09/10/2007, 12:56 PM
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You could try this:

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...2&pcatid=16752

Good Luck!
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Old 09/10/2007, 01:43 PM
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LOL. Really??? There you go making another claim about that which YOU know nothing about. Last week you claimed that I wasnt seeing iron rust inside some of my my plumbing. Now you are clainming that I havent the experience you do gluing things.
Im pretty sure I have glued a whole lot more magnet contraptions in reef tanks than you have...but htas just a guess...... So you once glued a MJ mod successfully using superglue gel....its not the best or the easiest way to do it.

Lets see a pic of your tank Rich. Last I checked....you wont post any. Lets see your vast experience in action....theat exeprience that gives you the so called right right to argue with everybody and everything on the boards.

You dont have very many friends in real life or the boards do you Rich??

Anyway...sorry for that....Rich makes me laugh.....I was just trying to give the best advice to someone wanting to make a magnet mount for the first time.

Have you tried mounting these pumps to magnets with superglue? If not, then your suppositions and guesses have no place here.

I have. I'm running 2 years now.


"So you once glued a MJ mod successfully using superglue gel....its not the best or the easiest way to do it."

I've got 4 of them. And another half dozen running in other tanks.
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Old 09/10/2007, 01:56 PM
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I have. I buy Jurassic Gel 200 grams at a time and have glued pretty much everything you can imagine with it.

Even at the price I get buying the gel in larger quantities........a weaker bond using $3-10 in superglue gel depending on how sloppy you are vs $.50 in epoxy with a stronger bond. Yep....makes perfect sense to use the superglue.
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Old 09/10/2007, 01:58 PM
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I have. I buy Jurassic Gel 200 grams at a time and have glued pretty much everything you can imagine with it.

Even at the price I get buying the gel in large quantities........a weaker bond using $3-10 in superglue gel depending on how sloppy you are vs $.50 in epoxy with a stronger bond. Yep....makes perfect sense to use the superglue.
$3-$10? What are you using, like 12 tubes?


The bond between the plastic of a magfloat, and the plastic housing of a maxijet/the plastic brackets is extremely strong. If the superglue is properly applied, you'll bust the bracket before the superglue will break.
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Old 09/10/2007, 02:10 PM
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If the superglue is properly applied, you'll bust the bracket before the superglue will break.
Wow. Thats either some incredible superglue with welding properties, or you really ARE just that good
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Old 09/10/2007, 03:49 PM
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No, the brackets just aren't all that strong, and the super glue is plenty strong. No welding property involved.
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Old 09/10/2007, 04:02 PM
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You really dont want to mess around, especially if you have a sandbed. A powerhead dropping and blowing around the core of a older sandbed can create some serious problems.

Good luck
Yes it can, I got off lucky, Just made a big sadn storm. No damage or spikes, But Was not fun. Mine jsut fell the other day.
Maybe i should cosider doing this.
I was that of one of the koralia pumps with the magnet already in place
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Old 09/10/2007, 04:48 PM
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Epoxy will create a stronger bond then superglue if the correct expoxy is used and applied properly. There is no point in arguing this fact. If you want the strongest bond, use epoxy.

Hope you found what you needed Winland. Goodluck!
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Old 09/10/2007, 07:26 PM
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24 hours with weld on #16 and it will never come apart! and its only about $4 for more than 4 times the amount of what u would get with superglue.
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Old 09/10/2007, 09:54 PM
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Well I was trying to learn something useful by reading this thread and I had my time wasted in egos,
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Old 09/10/2007, 10:17 PM
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You could try this:

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...2&pcatid=16752

Good Luck!
Those magnet holders are not expensive and are excellent. I have four sets of them and hold my powerheads from the one that feeds the Calcium reactor and Phosban reactor to the ones inside the refugium for added flow.
Their mounts are easy to install and I have cleaned them with muriatic acid, vinegas and bleach without any issues.
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Old 09/10/2007, 10:24 PM
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wow u guys have a relationship
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Old 09/10/2007, 10:26 PM
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Well I was trying to learn something useful by reading this thread and I had my time wasted in egos,
Welcome to the internet.

I would honestly just use whichever I had on hand, I wouldn't be very concerned with which glue to use when we've already had people show success with both super glue and epoxy.
 

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