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Old 12/26/2007, 11:26 AM
ian garcia ian garcia is offline
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Aquarium In The Sun

Here in Brazil a friend of mime had a 3.0 meters and the same crused, perhats because of an air stroke or excessive heat

Do you have experince , with this kint of problem becose we are thinking to mountng one for me .

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Old 12/26/2007, 11:34 AM
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Erm...Well... What?

If you put an aquarium in the sun nothing is wrong with it, You will get excessive algae growth, but I dont recommend it...
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Old 12/26/2007, 11:52 AM
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in the case of my friend there was no algae , the only problem was that aquarium crushet .

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Old 12/26/2007, 12:02 PM
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You had an aquarium crash? Any idea what caused the crash? It's doubtfull the sun caused the crash.
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Old 12/26/2007, 12:04 PM
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Yes...^^ he is right.. Your aquarium is very doubtful to crash at the hands of the sun.
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Old 12/26/2007, 12:11 PM
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this is my doudt

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Old 12/26/2007, 02:58 PM
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Old 12/26/2007, 03:20 PM
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Sunlight can be great for a tank, but the high temperatures it can cause are bad. My guess is it simply overheated.

A tank outside in a glass atrium WITH A CHILLER can be about as close to nature as you can get without being in the ocean.
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Old 12/26/2007, 03:33 PM
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Sunlight will make about 1/4 the heat of a halide/T5 light at the same PAR because with even the most efficient light bulbs, still about 75% of the electricity goes directly to heat. So overheating with sunlight is pretty hard to do... usually. OTOH, if you are in the tropics, you will most likely be providing too much light if anything. Up here in WI, a 14" sola-tube has about the same peak output as a 400 watt halide. Im sure in brighter areas, this peak could be close to a 1000 watt halide. It could simply be too much light.
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Old 12/27/2007, 07:18 AM
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do you se any danger by the overheating of the glass ?

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Old 12/27/2007, 02:21 PM
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It would take alot of light to overheat the glass through radiation alone, and some glass that has alot of tint to it.

Perhaps a PAR meter is in order. I wouldnt do a natural lighting setup without one.
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Old 12/27/2007, 02:29 PM
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What is the temperature of the water in your tank?
What is the highest temperature and what is the lowest temperature?
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Old 12/27/2007, 02:52 PM
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I don't think that he is saying that the tank crashed. I think that he means that the glass cracked and he doesn't want the same to happen to him.


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Old 12/27/2007, 03:00 PM
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A sturdy, level stand will prevent the tank from cracking. 2x4 lumber and a thick sheet of plywood on top.
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Old 12/27/2007, 03:58 PM
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I've seen that south american outdoor topdown reef on here B4, great thread, I wish I had a link to it!

ok found it here: http://archive.reefcentral.com/forum...readid=1095596
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Old 12/27/2007, 04:46 PM
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Perhaps we are losing something in the translation.

ian garcia, did the tank CRACK (break) or did it CRASH (everything suddenly died)?

If it CRASHED I would suspect heat, especially if the glass was hot to the touch. I'm not so sure about hahnmeister's comment about heat genrerated by sun vs. MH. Direct sunlight shining on the glass sides of a tank is very capable of overheating the water. Sit in a car with the windows up on a sunny day, and you can get an idea of how much heat the sun can create, even when it's cold out.

If the tank CRACKED, it's most likely a result of not being on a level stand, but I, and many other people, have had tanks crack from a manufacturing fault.
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Old 12/28/2007, 11:00 AM
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this tank is sell not monted , I'm only looking to mount the same , the idea is to economize eletric energy , today my tank is only in a room (3. meter , 4x 250 w metal halide 14.000 , more 12 t5 giesemann 80w ) .

dave , the aquarium that crushet was the propiety of a friend of mine.

seapug

when my friend 's reef crashed everything died , and the reef had been many years exposed in the sun
I'n asraid that the same ill happen if I expose reef in the sun .
I agree with your idea to put in a car .

thanks ian
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Old 12/28/2007, 11:07 AM
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reefkoi just a little geography lesson Portugal is in Europe but either way that is a cool thread thanks for the link.

As to the question I think you can expose it to the sun under the right conditions. You have to watch your temp closely day and night. It might not get to hot during the day but you don't want it to get too cool at night or too big of a difference. You will also have to make sure the equipment can be exposed to the elements if it going to be outside or find a way to protect it. I would love to try and outdoor reef someday.
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Old 12/29/2007, 11:04 AM
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the temperature is the greatest guess , for you to have an idea summer just began one week ago and to day the temperature is 34 º C.

I thought coolng the reef using one ecoochiller deltec .

thanks

have a nice new year

ian
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Old 12/29/2007, 02:56 PM
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reefkoi just a little geography lesson Portugal is in Europe but either way that is a cool thread thanks for the link.

LOL Nice............Yeah I thought the guy was in S.A. and once I found the link I didn't edit it.
But thank's for the little geography lesson I know I rarely ever paid attention in school!
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Old 12/30/2007, 08:33 AM
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I also have tank in direct sunlight (Canada), have to watch for a fast overheating in a sunny days. Winter or summer - the same.

Some kind of automatic controller, turning the chiller or fan on, will be good.
 


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