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Old 05/22/2007, 06:06 PM
RichConley RichConley is offline
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RichConely, I have to ask why did you try to cut your anemone in half?

They split when they are ready to.

Certain kinds dont. It was an experiment. Suffice to say, I wont try that species again.

FWIW, most of the commercially propogated anemones are cut, not split.
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Old 05/22/2007, 08:18 PM
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Ok not familar with all anemones, mainly the RBTA. All I have to do is feed mine 3 to 4 times a week and it splits.

lol... which I'm sure to only feed it 3 to 4 times a month.
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Old 05/22/2007, 11:33 PM
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I've had my GBTA for 15 months and it's not split once yet. I wish it would because it's huge. Oral disc is about 12" diameter now. I've tried frequent feedings to induce it, but no luck yet.
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Old 05/22/2007, 11:42 PM
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T. Wallance, I don't know anything about the GBTA's. But the RBTA's may split more often than the one you have. What do you feed it?

I feed mine small pieces of raw shrimp.
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Old 05/23/2007, 02:01 AM
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Sorry to be stupid, but what are RBTA and GBTA acronyms for? Can you give me a latin name?
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Old 05/23/2007, 02:08 AM
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Sorry to be stupid, but what are RBTA and GBTA acronyms for? Can you give me a latin name?
Green Bubble Tip Anemone and Red/Rose Bubble Tip Anemone. Or Entacmaea quadricolor if you prefer
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Old 05/23/2007, 02:35 AM
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Thanks, Peter,

I knew it had to be something like that, but just couldn't solve the puzzle. I tend to use latin names, as I post mainly in the European community and languages are often a problem.

Rich, now that I know the type of anemone, we see a lot of locally propogated E. quadricolor in Europe. Mainly the bright pink-red variety. I had read an article about a method, somewhere, some language (may have been in Koralle, which is translated into English). I'll try to look it up and report back.
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Old 05/23/2007, 07:56 AM
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start a new thread on the RBTA please....need more info on Mag....and algae results.

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Old 05/26/2007, 11:08 AM
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Old 05/26/2007, 11:36 AM
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I've kept my Mg level at 1700 ppm for the last 2 weeks and my bryopsis is still growing strong.
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Old 05/26/2007, 11:43 AM
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I've kept my Mg level at 1700 ppm for the last 2 weeks and my bryopsis is still growing strong.
Any chance of a good photo of your algae? Also, what are your tank parameters besides the Mg?
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Old 05/26/2007, 12:18 PM
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I let my mag decline to normal levels (1280) and I have noticed one tiny stalk of bryopsis growing back on my green zoanthid rock. Unfortunately I'm out of Kent Tech M. So I ordered some Mag Flake a few days ago. I expect it to arrive Tuesday or Wednesday. I'll update this thread with the results. As others have pointed out, Kent's Tech M is most likely just Mag Flake with water added, so hopefully my results should be the same.

I don't know why others aren't having luck with magnesium killing bryopsis. As someone else pointed out, I suspect a few of those cases may be incorrect algae identification, but surely not all are. There may be more to this than just magnesium. For those that are raising magnesium with no effect on bryopsis, could you post some other water parameters? Particularly nitrates, phosphates, pH.
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Old 05/26/2007, 01:56 PM
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After finding this thread I decided to give this a try. I started at 1275 for magnesium (Salifert). Over 1 week I upped it to 1800. It has been sitting at 1800 for a week now and no effect on the bryopsis. I used 10:1 mag flake/epsom salts to raise the level.

Here are my parameters:
PH 8.0-8.3 (PH monitor)
NO3 undetectable (Salifert)
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Old 05/27/2007, 07:45 PM
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Could it be that different types of Bryopsis can handle the Mag and others can not.

Bryopsis corticulans
Bryopsis corymbosa
Bryopsis halliae
Bryopsis hypnoides
Bryopsis indica
Bryopsis pennata
(Bryopsis pennata var. leprieurii )
(Bryopsis pennata var. secundata)
(Bryopsis pennata var. secunda)
Bryopsis plumosa
Bryopsis ramulosa

The problem is finding out which.
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Old 05/27/2007, 08:02 PM
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Thats a big list, that may very well be the problem some people are having. Wrong kind of bryopsis.
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Old 05/27/2007, 08:16 PM
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Rich, now that I know the type of anemone, we see a lot of locally propogated E. quadricolor in Europe. Mainly the bright pink-red variety. I had read an article about a method, somewhere, some language (may have been in Koralle, which is translated into English). I'll try to look it up and report back.
I tried to propogate H. Crispa. It didnt work. E. Quadricolor is pretty much bulletproof.


FWIW, still have bryopsis.
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Old 05/27/2007, 08:23 PM
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I also think the different types could be part of the problem. I had posted earlier that my bryopsis was unphased and it is not a case of mistaken algae identity as I've been in the hobby since '99 and there's no mistaking it once you've obtained an education on algae. It turns out that my bryopsis has at least been affected to some degree... it has stopped growing, it just isn't dying. I'll give it another week before I manually remove it.
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Old 05/31/2007, 11:38 PM
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Travis After finding this thread I decided to give this a try. I started at 1275 for magnesium (Salifert). Over 1 week I upped it to 1800. It has been sitting at 1800 for a week now and no effect on the bryopsis. I used 10:1 mag flake/epsom salts to raise the level.
How are you getting a reading of 1800? Salifert claims the max rang for its Mg test is 1500. Just curious - not trying to be a know it all.
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Old 06/01/2007, 06:57 AM
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You can figure out from their chart the increment it rises for each ml so when you refill the syringe you just keep adding for each ml.
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Old 06/01/2007, 08:22 AM
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How are you getting a reading of 1800? Salifert claims the max rang for its Mg test is 1500. Just curious - not trying to be a know it all.
Exactly how dreaminmel described.
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Old 06/01/2007, 10:48 AM
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How are you getting a reading of 1800? Salifert claims the max rang for its Mg test is 1500. Just curious - not trying to be a know it all.
You can refill a second shringe and continue adding then to the reading of the second sringe add 1500 ppm as described above or you can dilute the sample 50/50 using RO/DI water and then multiply the result by two. The second method is a bit less precise as it depends on how well you dilute but can save you reagents.
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Old 06/01/2007, 03:54 PM
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Didn't know that. Thanks!
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Old 06/04/2007, 08:16 AM
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Well after reading this post I thought I would give it a try. It's been quite a while since I tested my Mg...well I was low 1125. So over a few days I started to boost it up. My level as of yesterday was 1400, boosted over four days. I dosed a bit more concerned about the outcome on my sps tank. My observations so far are mixed. I know that I am not a the levels mentioned earlier, but I have notice that the growth has certainly slowed down. The stems of what a believe to be the bryopsis went from being green to clear. I will keep an eye on things as the days progress. As I said earier if anything it certainly has slowed down growth from when my Mg. levels were low. I have had great polyp extension on my corals prior to dosing, and this has not changed although I would say that my rainbow monti's extension was as good as I've every seen following the addition of the Mg. to get it to where it should have been.
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Old 06/04/2007, 08:31 AM
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I've been dosing mag cl/epsom salt gradually till my mg at 1400ppm. I could see the bryopsis is declining. Works for me. My phosphate and nitrate are both 0, and my cheato's lighting is at 24hrs.
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