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Old 08/05/2007, 02:01 PM
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Is my clam dead?

He looked fine last night. Is there anything I can do to help him?



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Old 08/05/2007, 04:23 PM
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please list all results from every test kit you have. also list everything about your filtration, additives. have you made any changes or had any issues in the past few weeks? what fish do you have.
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Old 08/05/2007, 04:43 PM
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Hope it works out well...
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Old 08/05/2007, 04:58 PM
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I don't have test kits. Last tests I did were

Ammonia .3
Nitrite .3
Nitrate 5
pH 7.9
Phosphate .25
Calcium 540
Alkalinity 15.4
Temp 78-80

Tests are from Tueday (I believe), did a 10% water change on Wednesday.

In a 9 gallon nanocube. I got him on Tuesday. He's one of the most beautiful teardrops I've ever seen which is why I bought him. I really don't want him to die. I love clams and it would be sad if he did. I just did a ~22% water change with new salt (instant ocean from oceanic). He seems to be doing a small bit better than this morning. This morning he wouldn't move at all when I touched him but I just scraped algae and he retracted a little bit what he could. Let me know what I have to do my fish store closes in one hour so I have to go quick if I need to buy something.

Also I can see his mouth/siphon thing now a little bit.

Just started adding Lugol's. Was planning on 1 drop/week. Dose phytoplankton every other day and feed cyclop-eeze every day.

Edit:

Fish:
1 Rainford Goby

Inverts:
1 Fire Shrimp
3 Hermit Crabs
7 Astrea Snails

Crocea looks good as ever.

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Old 08/05/2007, 05:33 PM
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how long has this tank been up and running? you shouldn't have any detectable ammonia or nitrite.

stop the lugos iodine you dont need it.

your Ca and Alk are high. the Alk concerns me more. what are you adding? and how are you adding it?

what SG is the water at?

how long ago were these test taken?

you need your own test kits
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Old 08/05/2007, 05:39 PM
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Tank has been up since March. Got it from a friend early June. Salt is at 1.026. Tests were from Tuesday. I will test again tomorrow. The IO salt should lower the CA, I dunno about dKH. Adding nothing else except what I listed already.
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Old 08/05/2007, 05:46 PM
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so you've had it set up since June?

what instrument are you using to test SG?
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Old 08/05/2007, 05:47 PM
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do you have a full tank photo you can post?
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Old 08/05/2007, 05:48 PM
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Yes, everything is the same as it was from my friend except livestock. Hydrometer. I know, buy a refractometer >.> Will FW dip help? I'll go take an FTS and upload it.
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Old 08/05/2007, 06:06 PM
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no a dip wont help.
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Old 08/05/2007, 06:12 PM
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soak your hydrometer in fresh water for a few hours(preferably RO) and take another SG reading.

when you did your water change how long did you let the water mix. when you poured it in did any undissolved salt go into the tank?

i really think the issue is the high Alk, how did it get that high, and how high is it today

your not adding purple up or anything like that?
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Old 08/05/2007, 07:42 PM
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Sorry I meant to have them right up but we have people over so it was hard to get on a computer. No the Oceanic was mixed a good 2 weeks and IO mixed yesterday. Nope not adding anything else. It has been that high forever. Actually went down from 17.9. CA went down from 720 too.
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Old 08/05/2007, 10:43 PM
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When you are topping off during the week are you using FW or SW?
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Old 08/05/2007, 11:04 PM
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Fresh.
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Old 08/06/2007, 12:46 AM
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my guess is your lighting and unstable parameters.
was there any notable fluctuations in water params recently? (temp, salinity, ca/alk)
and is that jbj viper the 70 or the 150? your crocea clam in the lower right is hyper extending its mantle, meaning it is reaching for more light. i don't think you have enough light for your clams, especially if you are firing a jbj viper stock bulb.
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Old 08/06/2007, 01:02 AM
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I don't know of any fluctuations. It's the 150. I do believe it still has the stock bulb. I don't see how light would do this to the maxima. Croceas require more and he's been in there since a week after I got the tank. Even if he is hyper extending, I don't see how the maxima could get such an adverse affect from it.
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Old 08/06/2007, 02:59 AM
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Aren't croceas generally hardier than maximas?

In a 9 gallon tank, you probably wouldn't be aware of any fluctuations unless you were testing daily. Things happen fast in such a small tank.
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Old 08/06/2007, 08:52 AM
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He looks like my tear drop, GL with him.
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Old 08/06/2007, 11:52 AM
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how long have you had the crocea?
how old is your bulb and how many inches is it from the maxima?
the maxima isn't getting an adverse effect from the crocea, but they require almost as much light as croceas do. your crocea might be hinting that there is not enough light in your nano for the clams.
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Old 08/06/2007, 05:20 PM
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my guess is your lighting and unstable parameters.
was there any notable fluctuations in water params recently? (temp, salinity, ca/alk)
My vote is for temp, and I'd say the alk is definitely not helping. Those xenia all have really tiny heads, and not one is pulsing in any of the pics.

The xenia look like they got hit by an extreme of some kind, temp, alk, etc. Whatever is affecting those xenia is affecting the clam as well.
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Old 08/06/2007, 06:52 PM
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Crocea has been in about 2 months. Bulb is as old as the tank, 5-6 months. It is 6-8 inches above the tank and probably 8-10 inches to the bottom of the tank. The xenia is blue cispitularia. When it came the heads were not even visible (see thread in soft corals). It is making a lot of progress and seems happy; as do most of my softies.

Maxima died today.

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Old 08/06/2007, 07:41 PM
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8-10 inches to the bottom of the tank means your tank is a 12 gallon. 12 gallon is a little small for a maxima of that size.
you also have a skunk cleaner shrimp. ever see him on the clam at any time? there have experiences in the past where the shrimp harrassed clams to death.
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Old 08/06/2007, 08:23 PM
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I assume you saw the whiskers from the FTS. He is actually a Fire Shrimp. He never goes near the clam, it isn't close enough to the back of the tank . I have to assume it was the dKH that killed him. I plan to do 2 gallon water changes every day until it is down. Tested today again and it was still 15.7 dKH.
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Old 08/06/2007, 08:24 PM
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I assume you saw the whiskers from the FTS. He is actually a Fire Shrimp. He never goes near the clam, it isn't close enough to the back of the tank . I have to assume it was the dKH that killed him. I plan to do 2 gallon water changes every day until it is down. Tested today again and it was still 15.7 dKH. Calcium was down to 490 though. Soaked the hydrometer in FW overnight and it tested just above 1.025 SG.
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Old 08/07/2007, 02:40 PM
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i would think for a tank that size that crocea will be enough. good luck
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