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Old 08/02/2007, 04:18 PM
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you will need to cycle these rocks and do some water changes i would guess outside the tank for a few weeks. are you able to skim the system the rock is going in?
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Old 08/02/2007, 04:18 PM
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That is what I did on a smaller scale- 400 lbs of dry rock in a 200 gallon vat mixed with 300 lbs of live rock. Let it cure with a skimmer and VHO's for 8 weeks. Definitely smells terrible and should be done somewhere where the temperature can be controlled.
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Old 08/02/2007, 04:36 PM
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What I wanted to do originally was build the aquascape in the tank without the water in it so if I cycle it for few weeks in some appropriate container and then build the aquascape with 'moist' rock and then finish the cycle in the big tank. How long do you think the rock can be out of water before it needs massive cycling again ?

I would try to connect both our skimmers to the cycle container/s. I wouldn't think lights were important in the cycle since I'm just ridding the die offs.

I usually buy the rock already cycled so I'm not used to cycling liverock but I've observed the process in few LFS's
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Old 08/02/2007, 05:47 PM
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I would try to connect both our skimmers to the cycle container/s. I wouldn't think lights were important in the cycle since I'm just ridding the die offs.

I usually buy the rock already cycled so I'm not used to cycling liverock but I've observed the process in few LFS's
that base rock will shed considerably and cycle hard i would say getting both of your skimmers on it will be great for it.
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Old 08/02/2007, 06:06 PM
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If it were mine I think I would

Cycle the dryrock in a seprate container(s) with (preferably) a skimmer and a few pieces of live rock if possible. No light necessary. Actually light will just fuel algae at this point.

Until the smell is gone..........

Have your water ready to fill the main tank.

Then build your aquascape as you planned before (without the smell). Keeping a few spray bottles around filled with saltwater to keep the rocks moist as you are building. The rocks will be fine for many hours as long as they are kept moist......


Then just fill the tank and test for ammonia, nitrite nitrate for the next couple of weeks as normal to see if you go through another mini cycle.

I would actually let more die off occur and the rocks to shed and siphon off the detritus before adding the substrate (if you are adding substrate).

Good luck
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Old 08/02/2007, 08:03 PM
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Thanks for the input guys.

Thats a fine plan CSS Reef and a good idea with the spray bottles.
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Old 08/03/2007, 09:35 AM
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what about cycling it in fresh water? it would kill evrything and no real bakteria buildup should occure....
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Old 08/03/2007, 03:11 PM
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doing it in freshwater is an absolute waste of time. The whole point of curing/cycling rock is to let the beneficial SALTWATER bacteria colonize all of the rock. If you did it in freshwater, you'd still have to cycle it all over again in saltwater with prob a larger amount of die off of all of the freshwater bacteria.
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Old 08/06/2007, 10:59 AM
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pics? Updates?
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Old 08/06/2007, 11:06 AM
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what about cycling it in fresh water? it would kill evrything and no real bakteria buildup should occure....
salt water...

also its not just about bacteria...

the rock will shed off lots of dust and fine particulate matter, lots of it organic. This will cause a few long cycles if the rock isnt cured properly before going in tank.

also i would do this in a dark room with the big deltec.... otherwise algae will overcome
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Old 08/06/2007, 11:06 AM
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Updates coming soon. This weekend+Monday is a long vacation weekend here in Iceland.

My rocks have landed and I will probably receive them tomorrow
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Old 08/09/2007, 09:52 AM
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Things are going painfully slow these days. I'm waiting for the contractor to saw a little bit more, level the stand and put in some cement.

I have got my liverock however and I am really pleased. I thought I might not have bought enough but seeing the rocks on the stand I see that it will do very fine. I also have other ~700 pounds stored elsewhere which will be a very good base for these beauties







... full size images here
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Old 08/09/2007, 10:05 AM
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Wow, that rock looks amazing. Did you say you're having some people help you with setting the aquascape up? For your back's sake, I hope so...
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Old 08/09/2007, 11:40 AM
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Wow. Those rocks look as big as the concrete rubble you took out of there.
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Old 08/09/2007, 01:57 PM
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I would like to see the plans for the equipment that's going to be hooked up on this system? how big will the sump be? Are you gonna use 8 1000 watt MH's or is it all going to be T5 fluorescent lighting?

at this size you would probably be using 2500 kilo's of live rock?

Man i can't wait to see this baby filled!!
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Old 08/09/2007, 02:11 PM
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you might need a engine hoist to aquascape ? rocks look great also have you decided on how you will cook them?
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Old 08/09/2007, 03:26 PM
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Arnar, if you guys need any help setting things up, feel free to give me a PM. I will gladly come do manual labor in exchange for an all expenses paid trip to Iceland.
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Old 08/09/2007, 05:44 PM
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haha yeah, I'm with ZLTFUL, I'm down..
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Old 08/13/2007, 01:42 PM
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Arnar must be making my transportation arrangements...

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Old 08/13/2007, 01:52 PM
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Arnar must be making my transportation arrangements...

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hehe..

You could always come to our FanFest party. I'll give you a private tour of the aquarium if you fly over
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Old 08/13/2007, 03:30 PM
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thats crazyy
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Old 08/16/2007, 01:41 AM
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cant wait to see the final aquascape as there are so many possibilities! a great tank in progress. congratulations bro!
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Old 08/16/2007, 10:16 PM
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this is fantastic... wow... reefers in our country can never have anything like that. Congratulations.
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Old 08/17/2007, 12:11 AM
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Wow, I'm a big fan of EVE and aquariums! Can I come visit?
EDIT: I'll be in hawaii during the eve fanfest Oh well, I think I'll manage.
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Old 09/03/2007, 06:16 PM
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Hey arnar what do you think?
 


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