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Old 01/05/2007, 06:59 PM
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I have a few frags ready on plugs. PM me if you are interested.
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Old 01/05/2007, 09:05 PM
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Old 01/07/2007, 02:51 AM
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Looks golden with some silver/blue mixed in. Very awesome indeed
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Old 01/08/2007, 06:51 PM
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I was under the impression that xenia did not "encrust", and typically had some form of "stalk".
Wouldn't/ couldn't this coral possibly be an Anthellia sp.?
Anyone out there have some input?
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Old 01/09/2007, 12:50 PM
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I was under the impression that xenia did not "encrust", and typically had some form of "stalk".
Wouldn't/ couldn't this coral possibly be an Anthellia sp.?
Anyone out there have some input?
I was thinking that after I saw the second set of pics. Regardless of what it is I'd like some when the weather warms up
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Old 01/10/2007, 02:06 AM
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Just thought I'd jump in... It is 100% Xenia and it is beautiful in person!!

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Old 01/10/2007, 09:52 AM
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Old 01/11/2007, 07:47 PM
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This is no miracle you guys...

This is Xenia Elongata, the "weed Xenia" species...

If you dose ALOT of IRON, or have IRON rich water, or have IRON nuts/bolts whatever in your aquarium ANY colony will turn Yellow Green...

sorry to upset anyone...
Julian Sprung mentions it somewhere... Ill have to remember where!
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Old 01/11/2007, 08:05 PM
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This is no miracle you guys...

This is Xenia Elongata, the "weed Xenia" species...

If you dose ALOT of IRON, or have IRON rich water, or have IRON nuts/bolts whatever in your aquarium ANY colony will turn Yellow Green...

sorry to upset anyone...
Julian Sprung mentions it somewhere... Ill have to remember where!
I guarantee you this is not xenia elongata.
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Old 01/11/2007, 11:05 PM
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It looks to be according to your pictures, however, the base is not clear...

Do you dose IRON? Does your LFS dose IRON alot??? I would ask just to be curious...

I have seen yellow/green Xenia Elongata... but that was directly contributed to excess IRON in the water...

If it is encrusting ONLY and there is NO NOTICEABLE STOCK than it is indeed NOT Elongata.
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Old 01/12/2007, 01:01 AM
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Old 01/12/2007, 07:20 AM
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It looks to be according to your pictures, however, the base is not clear...

Do you dose IRON? Does your LFS dose IRON alot??? I would ask just to be curious...

I have seen yellow/green Xenia Elongata... but that was directly contributed to excess IRON in the water...

If it is encrusting ONLY and there is NO NOTICEABLE STOCK than it is indeed NOT Elongata.
No, I don't does iron.

I have no clue if the LFS dosed iron, but I got my tiny fra from them over a year ago.

It is encrusting only, no main stalks.
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Old 01/12/2007, 11:12 AM
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I have this coral (which I personally need more info to verify it's even Xenia) and can also agree it is NOT Xenia elongata.
Juan-Carlos, you said it is Xenia, not Anthelia, as I suggested. How do you know this?
Do you have some literature I can review to verify?
Thanks!
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Old 01/12/2007, 12:59 PM
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According to the pictures, its Anthelia. Some pulse some dont
and they come in diffrent colors yellow is rare. Im telling you
this because i had some, that died when i moved and the only athelias i have left are brown and dont pulse.
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Old 01/12/2007, 05:26 PM
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chrisaggie, your inbox was full, so Im not sure if you received my pm
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Old 01/12/2007, 06:13 PM
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According to the pictures, its Anthelia.
Wht do you say this? Please elaborate and tell us why you think it's anthelia and not xenia.
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Old 01/12/2007, 06:13 PM
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chrisaggie, your inbox was full, so Im not sure if you received my pm
Please try again.

BTW, I have no more frags at this time.
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Old 01/12/2007, 06:34 PM
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Genus Anthelia Lamarck 1816: "Clusters of polyps all arising from a united stolon base that is soft, ribbon-like. Polyp pinnules in rows of 1-4 in number; slightly contractile, not retractile; some don't even respond to touch. Unlike Heteroxenia and Xenia species, Anthelia colonies branch at their base of attachment."

Genus Xenia Lamarck 1816: "Small cylindrical colonies (up to 4 cm in all dimensions typically), dome shaped. Sometimes branched, with polyps only at apical stems. One-shape polyps with varying capacity to retract, 1-6 pinnules on both sides (number of rows, pinnules species-specific). Some pulsate, some don't. Forty plus species, scattered over the Indo-Pacific. Fed on by similar appearing Nudibranchs of the genus Phyllodesmium."



If you look at the pictures the polyps do have the ability to retract, so it can't be anthelia, right?
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Old 01/12/2007, 07:18 PM
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I'm not trying to create a debate, argument, etc.. I just want a good idea of what is shown in the pictures provided, and what I also personally have.
Here is what my research yielded based on Lamarck 1816:
Family Xeniidae
Genus Xenia- Colonies upright, lobes capitate, polyps concentrated on well defined capitulum.
Polyps NOT retractable. Monomorphic.

Genus Anthelia- Colonies forming soft spreading membranes from which the polyps arise.
Polyps NOT retractable. Monomorphic.

So according to what I researched, I would think the shown coral to be an Anthelia sp.. It does not have the polyps concentrated on a well defined capitulum, and is formed from a soft spreading membrane where the polyps arise
In your photos the polyps contract, but don't retract. Mine do the same.
Thoughts?
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Old 01/12/2007, 07:20 PM
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Here is what my research yielded based on Lamarck 1816:
Family Xeniidae
Genus Xenia- Colonies upright, lobes capitate, polyps concentrated on well defined capitulum.
Polyps NOT retractable. Monomorphic.
What is your source for this info?
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Old 01/12/2007, 07:24 PM
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The base of this coral is a solid mat, not "ribbon-like" also.
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Old 01/12/2007, 07:33 PM
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That is a description from the National Museum of Natural History- "Reef Corals of the Indo-Malayan Seas"
Ribbon like is an odd term.
Point being it "sheets out", it isn't a "trunk with a cap" before the polyps. Hence, my questioning of Anthelia or Xenia.
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Old 01/12/2007, 07:36 PM
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I don't have a lot of experience with anthelia. Does anthelia grow from an encrustin base like GSP or a string type base? I thought I have seen anthelia with the string type bases.
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Old 01/12/2007, 07:40 PM
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I think it's great that we are having an anthelia vs. xenia debate. I would love to really fugure out what this coral is. I'll get some close up pictures posted soon.
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