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Old 11/13/2007, 05:42 PM
Floppy Mc Flops Floppy Mc Flops is offline
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Alkalinity to high???

In the two reef tanks I am currently taking care of the Alkalinity readings are coming up really high. Is this necesarilly bad? Will it inhibit coral growth? My DKH is 12.8 in one tank and 15.2 in the other!
I have been using "2 little fishies" 2 part calcium additive and the calcium levels are still not where I want them (mid to high 300's) but the Alkalinity just keeps raising. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Old 11/13/2007, 06:05 PM
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test your magnesium, and stop adding the alk part, just add the calcium
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Old 11/13/2007, 06:06 PM
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Those Alkalinity levels will drop on their own if you stop dosing the alkalinity portion of the two part solution. If you are unable to raise your calcium higher than 370-390, my bet is that you have low magnesium. Low magnesium will make it difficult or impossible to raise your calcium any higher. If you are using IO salt, you most likely have low magnsium. It usually tests around 1170. It should be around 1300.

What ALK test kit are you using? The reason I ask is that there a number of Salifert alkalinity kits that people have received over the past 3 months that are innacurate. They read dKH 2 to 3 points higher than they actually are.
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Old 11/14/2007, 02:32 PM
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Thanks for the response!
Yeah I have been using a Salifert Alk test. I just received it a couple days ago from an online store. I use Oceanic Sea Salt, which it says "Contains High levels of Magnesium".

But Im not sure if this is enough, I have never measured the levels.
Is it possible to achieve and maintain Calcium ratings in the 400-450 range with only a two part calcium additive (no Kalkwasser) if I have the proper level of Magnesium??

Does any one know which part of the 2 little fishies two part is the Calcium and which is the Alk? A or B?
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Old 11/14/2007, 03:31 PM
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hey matt. I'm not sure which part is the cal and alk. i would hold off. I am running into the same problem right now with my cal reactor and my alk is always around 15-16 level and cal was at 410. It was starting to burn my sps a little so i turned the reactor way down.

and you can maintain cal and alk with a 2 part solution with or without kalk. you should just test on a regular basis.
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Old 11/14/2007, 04:41 PM
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12.8 is ok but 15.2 is a little high. lol
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Old 11/14/2007, 06:41 PM
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I would get a different Alkalinity test kit to double check before you do anything. The quality of those Salifert kits is questionable.
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Old 11/14/2007, 07:50 PM
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If you have a PH probe and you place it in a glass containing Part A or B and it goes up to say 10 or so you have found the ALK part.
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Old 11/14/2007, 08:55 PM
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My alk stays around 10-11dkh at all times without dosing. I only use the calc part fwiw.
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Old 11/14/2007, 09:16 PM
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I have read that some reefs in the wild experience alk as high as 18. Basically high alk is not a real big issue but you should shoot for lower.
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Old 11/15/2007, 07:43 AM
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In case of problems, you can do more water changes with water, having lower alkalinity. In my case it was Kent salt mix, as opposed to IO and Red Sea.
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Old 11/15/2007, 09:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Floppy Mc Flops

Does any one know which part of the 2 little fishies two part is the Calcium and which is the Alk? A or B?
Should say on the bottles which one is which. I believe the A bottle is calc.
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Old 11/15/2007, 11:47 AM
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I use a different 2 part, but it is obvious which is the alk becuse it clouds the water. It is also the first additive you add. Hope that helps.
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Old 11/15/2007, 12:31 PM
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Thanks for the reponses!

Does anyone have any experience with the Salifert Coral Calcium additive? Does it raise ALk along with calcium levels?

Has there ever been any Scientific reaserch done on the effects of high Alk on reef tanks? As to any detrimental effects?
 


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