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| View Poll Results: What hard to find angel do you have | |||
| Bandit Angel |
   
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3 | 2.54% |
| Golden Pygmy Angel |
  
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3 | 2.54% |
| Colins Angel |
  
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6 | 5.08% |
| Hotumatuas Angel |
  
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0 | 0% |
| Interuptus Angel |
  
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9 | 7.63% |
| Joculator Angel |
  
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2 | 1.69% |
| Resplendent Angel |
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8 | 6.78% |
| Venustus Angel |
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3 | 2.54% |
| Blueline Angel |
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3 | 2.54% |
| Chrysurus Angel |
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5 | 4.24% |
| Conspicillatus Angel |
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9 | 7.63% |
| Multicolor Angel |
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7 | 5.93% |
| Peppermint Angel |
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49 | 41.53% |
| Kingi Angel |
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11 | 9.32% |
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#51
04/24/2006, 12:09 AM
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Armitagei actually show up here in the U.S. a few times a year.
I believe there are a few personatus in Japan. I know for a fact that there's a pair in Hawaii. I think the Waikiki Aquarium has a pair also. |
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#52
04/24/2006, 12:28 AM
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By far,
the leader is the Peppermint angel. I've been checking that one angel out for months now. And once Nexdog gets rich and sends me one, I'll probably be the only one on the east coast with one. Lol, sorry, but I've been buggying him about that fish for months, thought he might want to get me off his back about it and just send me one, hint, lol But no really, how could you say no to these:  we all would be drooling and fighting over them RevClyburn
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04/24/2006, 04:53 AM
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I saw the color morph of Centropyge bispinosa (10cm) from Samoa, and it cost some 600000 Yen in Tokyo some 20 years ago. After someone's purchase it turned a normal coloration in 4-5 weeks. Not all of color variants will turn norm one, however.
 Centropyge aurantia (Golden Angel), 5cm from Indonesia. Some 20 years ago it was a rarely sold fish that commanded a very high price but now it is fairly popular, but most will die suddenly without any sign. 
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#54
04/24/2006, 05:02 AM
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04/24/2006, 12:04 PM
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I would say Peppermints are the rarest. The last time I checked there were only a handful in captivity and they were mainly in Japanese aquariums.
They are rarely collected and are very difficult to maintain as they tend to not eat prepared foods very well. I have pretty much seen every angel on the list in a LFS at one point or another but the Peppermint. |
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04/24/2006, 02:17 PM
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I'm sure Hiroyuki can comment on this in this thread, as many of the available images of this species are from him! Quote:
Also, have you ever seen any flame/potter hybrids or the blue phase of potter's that Hiroyuki photographed in Japan? I remember getting all excited when I saw a half-black/lemonpeel hybrid (common in the trade) while diving in Micronesia... LD I actually saw a blue potter's available on a wholesaler's list a few years ago for $600... the LFS owner asked me about it, saying "what the **** is a blue potter's?" Also, beautiful score on the small goldenback trigger...  Here's one of the blue potter's images from Hiroyuki Tanaka... woo hoo! Quote:
I saw the pair that Frank Baensch of RCT Hawaii had at his facility that he successfully bred before he offered them for sale... I immediately thought it was practice and joked about it with him... while he's got lots of secrets it's not a secret he'd love to breed the peppermints eventually... and there's no reason why it won't eventually be done... Quote:
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A. trimaculatus also hybridizes with our buddy A. kingi... that's got to be up there with rare... ever seen one Hiroyuki? Here's a shot of the juvenile personatus that was raised by the Waikiki Aquarium... I spoke to Charles Delbeek about this and I believe he said it carpet surfed... seriously... I think they've lost their adults too, but I don't remember from my last visit there... I did see the adults they had years ago and they had lost a considerable amount of color... I've since seen another wild captive pair that was just stunning though! 
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04/24/2006, 02:32 PM
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How about Saint Paul's Rocks Queen angels! Can anyone comment on where these have been available? This is just nuts... I love these things...
Why do I think of Smurfs when I see this guy?  All white morph...  Koi variety... I'm no geneticist but this has to be the same reason we see this color in inbred koi...  blue morphs...  
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04/24/2006, 03:32 PM
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Does anyone know of any place where I could get a conspiculatus angel besides The Marine Center?
I don't think any of the LFS in my area would ever get one in even if I special ordered. |
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#59
04/24/2006, 03:42 PM
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Tom at Marineaquatics.net gets them, although recently they've been tough to come by... he's also in Atlanta not too far from you...
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04/24/2006, 03:52 PM
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I acctually called Tom and he said that he is not able to get them anymore and does not know when he will find another source. He was acctually the first person I called.
There is a place up in Chicago called Old Town Aquarium that has one and are willing to ship but I was unable to find any reference to them on this website. They also use DHL for shipping which worried me. |
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04/24/2006, 03:58 PM
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04/24/2006, 04:05 PM
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I hadn't read the entire thread so do I feel dumb. I ran a search on them and no one has had any experience mail ordering from them.
They no longer have the 3" but they do have a 5" I am thinking about buying. They stated they have a 7 day health guarantee but who knows if they really stick by it given the price of the fish and it being mail order. |
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04/24/2006, 04:22 PM
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04/24/2006, 05:04 PM
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 Also, anyone ever see what I call the "Atlantic clarion"... a queen angel /rock beauty hybrid... it's amazing how rare this fish is despite how common it's parents are... 
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04/24/2006, 05:33 PM
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Copps,
I have to agree on the Narcosis. I had forgotten about that one. |
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04/24/2006, 05:49 PM
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The story behind it's naming is that Pyle had nitrogen narcosis so bad he forgot he had collected them... I believe these were collected deeper than boylei, but don't have my references with me...
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04/24/2006, 05:55 PM
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Yeah I did. I had accutally heard the same history on the name.
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04/24/2006, 06:03 PM
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Ah okay... I forgot who I heard the story from... ... ...
  Okay it's a dead horse...
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04/24/2006, 10:43 PM
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All the angels here are absolutely gorgeous. I have never seen the what or blue morph ones, stunning to say the least. And the multi spine one is one of my choices since I can't get the Peppermint angels, YET! Is there anyone out there that is actively trying to captive bred any of there angels?
And Nexdog, if you ever do that, you can definitely put my on the list as a buyer. Do you know any one there that has them, and has had any success with just keeping them? Edwin
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04/24/2006, 11:19 PM
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04/25/2006, 01:43 AM
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Hi All,
Here is a photo of Centropyge debelius, 8cm at a retailer in Kyoto. I have four shots but it is the best. The species commands a very high price of around US$600, and scarcely imported to Japan. It was doing well in a display tank there. It is almost restricted to Mauritius and Aldabra.  An additional shot of Centropyge potteri, 10cm at the same shop. I heard that two specimens were caught at the depth of more than 60 meters at off Kona Coast, and one of them was shipped to the US. This specimen also cots US$600.  The third shot shows a juvenile, 3cm long Apolemichthys griffisi. Now often imported but still rare in market. 
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04/25/2006, 02:42 AM
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Masked angels are typically caught in the Northwestern Hawaiian islands, where they are commonly found in shallow water but can't be legally collected (unless you work for Waikiki Aquarium, obviously). However, they are also found in the main Hawaiian islands in deep water and very rarely pop up in the shallows - surprisingly the type specimen was collected near downtown Honolulu in only 80'! The logistics of collecting personatus are similar to other deepwater fish such as boylei so it's not unreasonable to expect one to turn up once in a while. I've seen personatus in submersible videos at 300' off Oahu - I know where they are but don't have the skill to go diving for them. One of these days... |
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04/25/2006, 04:00 AM
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Hello NexDog,
No. I am so sorry that they have no web. Thename of the shop is "Earth". They are holding and selling so many species of fish and corals. Perhaps you may find the name in older issues of Marine Aquarist magazine, publishing four issues a year. RGBMat, I saw two females and a male there some 15 years ago, but I hear that they do not do well. |
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