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Old 01/03/2008, 11:41 AM
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For the love of Genicanthus

I just added a female Genicanthus watanabei to
my reef over the holidays. I'm very pleased with
her so far. The blue hues on this fish are amazing.
Pics don't do her justice. She eats like a pig &
hasn't even looked at any of my corals so far.
Post some pics of your Genicanthus angels &
your experiences with them. I'll start it off with
a few pics of mine.





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Old 01/03/2008, 11:55 AM
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I have been extremely happy with my pair of blackspot swallowtails. Peaceful, yet can hold their own against the tangs. They never touch corals or anything on the rocks. Eat any food I give them. My only complaint is that the male has darkened slightly....







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Old 01/03/2008, 12:00 PM
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Awesome pics Peter. I've always loved the blackspot swallowtails. Your male is stunning.
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Old 01/03/2008, 02:48 PM
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Maybe the darkening is from bright lighting? A similar thing will happen with multicolor angels.
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Old 01/03/2008, 03:32 PM
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blface - have the same fish...got her two months ago and absolutely love her. Eats well and can hold her own against my tangs. Never even looks at my coral.
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Old 01/03/2008, 04:14 PM
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I that your angel Charlie???
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Old 01/03/2008, 05:07 PM
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Maybe the darkening is from bright lighting? A similar thing will happen with multicolor angels.
Yeah, could be. Who really knows...I've heard lighting, diet, possible even camouflage shading, like the various colored anglers. I've even heard about the various anemones/corals that host clowns causing the clowns to darken......tough to figure out for sure I think.
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Old 01/03/2008, 06:55 PM
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Not the one I really like.
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Old 01/03/2008, 10:40 PM
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I love that watanabe angel, I'm hoping to get a very small pair in my 90 gallon once it's fully-cycled.
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Old 01/03/2008, 11:53 PM
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I lost my female about 10 months ago due to my large hippo tang harrasing her, now I'm seeing my male is changeing back to a female.

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Old 01/04/2008, 12:42 AM
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From most pictures I've seen of the Genicathus species, most of them tend to be a bit on the plain side for my tastes, in terms of their coloration. I've only seen watanabeis in person, and although lovely in a minimalist sort of way, they too were not what I would really call flashy. However, Peter's pics of his melanospilos pair has me reconsidering. I agree with blface that the male, in particular, is indeed stunning. For those with experience with that species, do they all look that spectacular (or even nearly that spectacular) in person?
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Old 01/04/2008, 03:58 AM
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From most pictures I've seen of the Genicathus species, most of them tend to be a bit on the plain side for my tastes, in terms of their coloration. I've only seen watanabeis in person, and although lovely in a minimalist sort of way, they too were not what I would really call flashy. However, Peter's pics of his melanospilos pair has me reconsidering. I agree with blface that the male, in particular, is indeed stunning. For those with experience with that species, do they all look that spectacular (or even nearly that spectacular) in person?
PLAIN? you've never seen a bellus then:



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Old 01/04/2008, 06:11 AM
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Here are my pair of Genicanthus Melanospilos (Blackspot Angels). Stunninig fish as are many of the Genicanthus species.







BTW - love your Watanabei BLFace
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Old 01/04/2008, 06:12 AM
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Old 01/04/2008, 07:07 AM
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the perfect reef fish IMHO

Had many of them over the years.
Currently have a female.
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Old 01/04/2008, 08:31 AM
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I notice your male still has the black of a female tail....is it still changing, or holding the same color?
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Old 01/04/2008, 09:51 AM
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I notice your male still has the black of a female tail....is it still changing, or holding the same color?
Yes it does. It has maintained that since I've had it. My female is starting to form streamers and the lower part of her anal fin is becoming speckled (as in the male). They are truly gender defiant - however, they both live in Thailand and that is quite normal here
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Old 01/04/2008, 10:11 AM
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From most pictures I've seen of the Genicathus species, most of them tend to be a bit on the plain side for my tastes, in terms of their coloration. I've only seen watanabeis in person, and although lovely in a minimalist sort of way, they too were not what I would really call flashy. However, Peter's pics of his melanospilos pair has me reconsidering. I agree with blface that the male, in particular, is indeed stunning. For those with experience with that species, do they all look that spectacular (or even nearly that spectacular) in person?
I really thought the same thing. Never had any intention or desire to own one. They were just oh hum in pics, IMO. Then I saw my male in person. Really stunning, so I bought it, then and there. And the female the same day (different LFS though).
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Old 01/04/2008, 12:44 PM
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I am becoming more and more convinced. The pics of the bellus are also very nice. Anybody ever try mixing species (e.g., a lamarcki with a pair of melanospilos, a bellus with a watanabe, etc.)?

Also, I've read that because at least some of these are deepwater fish, some can have decompression problems (I think I've read that about watanabes in particular). Anyone ever have an issue with that? Seems like if the fish is swimming ok in the LFS (or if you use a reputable online dealer), this should not be a problem. Or might it show up later?
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Old 01/04/2008, 12:53 PM
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For a long time I thought of the Genicanthus as being no more attractive than damsels, and failed to understand what the fuss was about. I really love the large angels - their look, behaviors and intelligence. However, after I got a LaMarck angel (which is one of the plainest, cheapest and hardiest) I began to appreciate their beauty, which is of a different sort.
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Old 01/04/2008, 02:47 PM
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Anyone keeping these with fairy wrasses? Scott Michael mentions the genicanthus can be aggressive towards wrasses.Looks like bradleyj is keeping them together. Anyone else?
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Old 01/04/2008, 02:56 PM
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i had a male watanabe from australia that was one of the nicest fish i have seen. he was huge full streamers and the nicest blue i have seen on a fish before. It changed my mind of watanabes!

but then i got one from the marshalls and it wasn't as nice!
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Old 01/04/2008, 03:18 PM
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Anyone keeping these with fairy wrasses? Scott Michael mentions the genicanthus can be aggressive towards wrasses.Looks like bradleyj is keeping them together. Anyone else?
A pic is better than a thousand words.About 10 diff wrasses with mine.
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Old 01/04/2008, 03:22 PM
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anyone with a male lamark?
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Old 01/04/2008, 03:40 PM
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Thanks Gasman.
 


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