2 Tunze 6055's or 1 Vortec??

rutz81 · #1 01/04/2008, 03:09 PM

I am starting a 40G(24x24x16") BB SPS Cube. Do you think I should go with 1 Vortec or 2 Tunze 6055's?? Also, I have the Tunze Controller, so that plays a role, too.

TIA,
Dave

CW from the OC · #2 01/04/2008, 03:42 PM

Not sure on the Tunze's, but I can tell you that one Vortec will rock that tanks' world so good, you will likely not be able to run it at full power. That's a good thing, LOL!

rleechb · #3 01/04/2008, 04:52 PM

For a tank that size, the Tunzes for sure. I don't think you'll be utilizing the full power of either the Vortec, or the 6055's on a 2' tank.

rutz81 · #4 01/04/2008, 05:09 PM

They are both the same price, so, even if I have to use the Vortec at 1/2 power; I feel like it guves me more of an option to use it on a larger tank later on.

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Originally posted by rleechb
For a tank that size, the Tunzes for sure. I don't think you'll be utilizing the full power of either the Vortec, or the 6055's on a 2' tank.

antiant · #5 01/04/2008, 06:31 PM

i have a vortech on a 24x24x12 frag tank and im able to get a nice wave. if i had the extra height, id be able to have an insane wave. make the teeth in your overflow to handle it.

naka · #6 01/04/2008, 07:15 PM

I would get the Vortech. It's an awesome pump!

stony_corals · #7 01/04/2008, 07:17 PM

Vortech, no question

rutz81 · #8 01/04/2008, 07:21 PM

The two pumps wouldn't be more beneficial considering that the water is coming from 2 sources rather than the 1 that the vortec has?

rutz81 · #9 01/04/2008, 07:34 PM

I am afraid that with the 1 pump(Vortec), I will have more of a chance of having dead spots. Just don't want to make a wrong decision; they are both pretty pricey decisions.

Thanks,
Dave

slojmn · #10 01/04/2008, 08:21 PM

In my 3x2x18" cubish tank I am running 2x 6055's on the controller and 2x6025 nanos behind the rocks...I am adding a new Vortech as soon as I get it next week. I can use more flow no problem, of course that is on the 3' tank. I plan to have the Vortech on one side and the 2 6055's on the opposite wall to get some random/chaotic flow. The 6025's behind the rocks just help keep things clean in the back of the tank and under the rocks. I have my rocks set in a way that there is a lot of space all over the place...not many areas for gunk to build up.

Marko9 · #11 01/04/2008, 08:28 PM

Two 6055's are rated the same as one vortech. I have them both and for your application, I would get the two tunze. You will be able to do more with you flow then with the vortech, it would have to be dialed down.

rleechb · #12 01/04/2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by rutz81
The two pumps wouldn't be more beneficial considering that the water is coming from 2 sources rather than the 1 that the vortec has?

Exactly why I said 2 6055's w/o question. Vortecs are great pumps, no doubt, but you'd get better tank coverage with the two tunzes.

rutz81 · #13 01/04/2008, 08:44 PM

Ok, thanks everyone. I think I'm gonna go witht he 2 Tunzes, just makes more sense on my size tank. Guess I'll have to wait to try out the Vortec on my next tank....

CW from the OC · #14 01/04/2008, 09:07 PM

I disagree with the dead spots being more with the Vortecs. They move so much water, the entire mass of water inside your tank will be circulating in a giant whirl pool, and fairly high velocity. Tunze's are more narrow, focused streams, whereas Vortecs are wide flow. One vortec in my 4x2x2 had the entire tank flowing wildly and at times I had to turn it down. That is a tank 2x the size of yours. Not a dead spot in it.

It is definately one of those "you have to see it to believe it" things. Once you do, you'll never go back.

rutz81 · #15 01/04/2008, 09:20 PM

I see your point with moving so much more water. But, with a "whirl pool" wouldn't I have 1 directional flow causing my SPS to grow wierd? Where as if I have both Tunzes pointing at the Side/Front on both sides the flow may be more chaotic. I'm not trying to argue, just playing both sides to get to get a final answer. Also, since the Vortecs only shoot the flow straight, I wouldn't be able to send the water off the glass at all, there it might be hard to place the Vortec trying not to get any corals in the direct line of fire of the Vortec.
I appreciate all the responses especially considering this isn't a fancy pictures post or anything...that's still to come.

Dave

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Originally posted by CW from the OC
I disagree with the dead spots being more with the Vortecs. They move so much water, the entire mass of water inside your tank will be circulating in a giant whirl pool, and fairly high velocity. Tunze's are more narrow, focused streams, whereas Vortecs are wide flow. One vortec in my 4x2x2 had the entire tank flowing wildly and at times I had to turn it down. That is a tank 2x the size of yours. Not a dead spot in it.

It is definately one of those "you have to see it to believe it" things. Once you do, you'll never go back.

ClownReef® · #16 01/04/2008, 10:20 PM

I Love my 6055 and my 6025!!!

rutz81 · #17 01/04/2008, 10:48 PM

What size tank are you using them in?

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Originally posted by ClownReef®
I Love my 6055 and my 6025!!!

chadfarmer · #18 01/05/2008, 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by ClownReef®
I Love my 6055 and my 6025!!!

when tunze doesnt cover the clips when they break you will thank twice about the tunzes

ClownReef® · #19 01/05/2008, 01:07 AM

My 30x3015 shallow reef

dascharisma · #20 01/05/2008, 09:21 AM

In my experience, Vortechs are not good at preventing accumulation of detritus on the bottom of a BB tank. Although I would prefer the look of the Vortech I would get the Tunzes.

Brad

dascharisma · #21 01/05/2008, 09:21 AM

In my experience, Vortechs are not good at preventing accumulation of detritus on the bottom of a BB tank. Although I would prefer the look of the Vortech I would get the Tunzes.

Brad

msn711 · #22 01/07/2008, 05:06 PM

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I disagree with the dead spots being more with the Vortecs. They move so much water, the entire mass of water inside your tank will be circulating in a giant whirl pool, and fairly high velocity. Tunze's are more narrow, focused streams, whereas Vortecs are wide flow. One vortec in my 4x2x2 had the entire tank flowing wildly and at times I had to turn it down. That is a tank 2x the size of yours. Not a dead spot in it.

It is definately one of those "you have to see it to believe it" things. Once you do, you'll never go back.

I disagree. I have a vortech on my 120 (4x2x2), and there are definitely dead spots in the back corners and the opposite side of the tank. I've had to supplement it with additional powerheads. I like the look of it and the battery back up option, but if I had to go back and do it over again, I'd have gone with something else.

gcarroll · #23 01/07/2008, 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by chadfarmer
when tunze doesnt cover the clips when they break you will thank twice about the tunzes

and when will that be?

chadfarmer · #24 01/07/2008, 07:18 PM

for me right now

i had 5 of mine break in the last 3 months and i was told i wont get anymore
I have 2-6055 2-6045 1-6025
(i was told user error-- i know it isnt)

i have owned 4 6000 and 2 6100
makes me thank differently on my next purchase

whosurcaddie · #25 01/07/2008, 09:43 PM

I have two vortechs on a 120 4x2x2 and there are dead spots in the rear corners on every mode except pulse. I use pulse with one pump in anti sync, now I have never seen a tunze in action But from what ive seen when the wave kicks up on my tank. It just gives you that feeling that its the closest movement to the ocean corals in a captive system can experience. But there is a drawback to the wonderfull flow if you like your tank silent you wont like vortechs. Sound is a major consideration and something that hasen't been mentioned. Tunzes are silent Vortechs are not when I first got mine I was amazed at how loud they actually were but they did brake in but they are not silent like the tunzes. Just things to consider.