Is this Protein Skimmer Working? Pics included Seaclone 150`

[T Sandman]

Holy cow. You folks, I tell ya.

Your skimmer looks like it's working ok. And by what you wrote, it's doing fine by you.

Is that the first skimmer you've owned? I remember trying out a couple before I made my own. I even bought a skilter when they first came out. It made skimmate, But compared to what my diy skimmer made it was retired soon after.

I agree that you don't have to spend a ton on a skimmer. I like to diy for a ton less.

[MarkS]

Those little pocket books by THF are usually out of date by many years or the author did research by asking LFS owners instead of hobbiests.

You really need to do some research on skimmers and how they function. The higher cost skimmers cost that due to the materials involved in their construction, the time and effort to assemble it and the process used to produce the bubbles. To take that little blurb from that book as advice and set your whole mindset of skimmers on it shows how naive you are.

No one here is trying to steer you wrong and no one (except for you possibly) was planted here by a skimmer manufacturer.

In my relativly short time in this hobby, I've used three different types of skimmers: 1.) Lee's CC 2.) CPR BakPak 2R and 3.) Remora. As my paychecks increased, I could afford the bigger skimmers. I can speak from experience that the expensive skimmers do work better than the cheap ones. The first two hardly did anything. The last one blows the other two out of the water!

Oh yeah, as for that comment about this site not being moderated enough because it allows SeaClone bashing.. Maybe you'd like to post that over in the Feedback forum where it will be noticed quicker! Many of the mods here have used them and know just how bad they are. Also, this forum is for the free exchange of information. If you don't like it, tough! If you are, as I suspect, an employee of Marineland, then you can bring this issue up with one of the Admins (JohnL, Gregt or Doug) and they'll put a stop to it promptly!

I'd recommend that you change your tone as well. I've seen many closed minded people just like yourself come and go over the years. It is becoming clear that you are not here to offer advice or learn. Those are the only two reasons for being a member of this board. Keep posting like your doing and you wont be posting for much longer.

[MarkS]

I say we let the mods handle him so we don't get ourselves banned!

[tgreene]

Would a subtle beating be requesting too much..?

[dave2184]

I had a Seaclown for 6 months and replaced it with a Euroreef ES5-2 and this is what the Seaclown left in the tank.

BAM!! Very first hour of skimming. NUFF SAID!!



And this is what i dump twice a day.

[websiteworld.com]

I have a sump so I'm going to use them both at the same time one hanging on and one in the sump.

[bobbravo2]

does that mean you're keeping the seaclone?

[drock59]

thanks Mark S.

[websiteworld.com]

Originally posted by bobbravo2
does that mean you're keeping the seaclone?

If not I'll sell it on ebay.

[steve68]

dave2184 that looks like u had one heck of a sand storm & 2nd shot looks more like the real deal

[dave2184]

The first pic is the silt that settled on to my rocks and sandbed that even when stired into the water the Seaclown wouldn't pull out. The second is a half days waste.

[Jankees]

I was told by many people that the seaclone was good for small bioloads,and tank size 90gal and less mainly bioloads. I only have two common clowns, domino damsel that is swimming in my sump i had those fish since mid july in my early tank stage. I have a bannded goby, flower anenome, one mushroom clipping, four green emerald crabs, serpent star fish,and the typical 75gal cleaning crew. I lost a coral beauty that i had from mid july to early dec. Like the Grim Reefer said i have to watch my bioload with the seaclone. I 'm pretty much pssst off on how much i paid for mine when i could've gotten a skimmer that can handle a heavier bioload. I spent over $200, so i have just a little bit of a reason to be upset.

[dave2184]

From my experiance with one i would recomend it on a 30 gallon reef that was preaty stocked as a maximum. Definatly not rated for the sizes they say.

[Jankees]

dave2184 thats what i'm talking about that's a skimmer, my friend purchase the es5-3. he hasn't set up his tank yet, but i will show him your pics

[Jankees]

I have a friend who uses those plastic confetti in his sump instead of bio-balls, or rock. does anybody know what i'm talking about.

[dave2184]

Thats an ES5-2 the only difference is the ES5-3 is 4 inches taller.

[Jankees]

thanks for that information about the different size of the euro-reef how much does the es5-2 run. that will fit down in my sump.

[dave2184]

Biobale. the wet dry system is out of date (1970) they are good for fish only and fresh water but not for a reef as they don't compleate the nirogen cycle by not converting nitrate to nitrogen gas and over time the nitrates build up.

[dave2184]

Around $230 + shipping and it will come with the correct pump. Check marinedepot.com they ship for free if you make a purchass of $150 or more.

[jjmg]

I'm glad the poor guy didn't say he was using a rio on his seaclone, you would have formed a lynch mob.

[jjmg]

Oh, by the way, my seaclone works great on my 20 gal...should I buy a euroreef???

[dave2184]

As i said earlier they work good for tanks 30 gallons and less as they can keep up with the bioload.

BTW RIO is a curse word around here

[jjmg]

I agree the seaclone is way over rated by the company, good for nano's. I never had a problem with my rio's, but I figured it was a good time to learn from other peoples mistakes and I got rid of them.

[dave2184]

I had one and if it wasn't for a ground probe and GFCI i probably wouldn't be here.

[Jankees]

I have a rio 1700hf in sump for return and a 800,600. i took out the 600.