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Old 12/12/2006, 12:40 PM
EMBRYOGUY EMBRYOGUY is offline
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matt

how do you have your collection light set>? is it pointing straight down or across the surface. im using one of those small pen mag lights.

looks like we both will be having fun tonight lol

i hope mine hatch atleast
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Old 12/12/2006, 12:50 PM
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PLEASE PUT PICS UP SO I CAN START CONSTRUCTION TONIGHT :-p

sry for caps gotta type with them at work

but pics ideas for my just in case will be nice
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Old 12/12/2006, 12:54 PM
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My collector uses a clam on headlamp that I've "blacked out" to leave a small pinhole size opening...it still puts out arguably too much light.

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Old 12/12/2006, 04:22 PM
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point it straight down right in front of the flow into to the collector.

I got 550 larvae once with a pinhole (electrical tape over a mini maglight) light. They lived, mostly.
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Old 12/12/2006, 04:36 PM
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thanks kathy.!

i was concerned since the mag light shines a relatively bright column of light down to the bottom of my tank, since its only 1 foot deep. i was concerned larvae would hang out on the bottom.
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Old 12/12/2006, 06:32 PM
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They might hang out the whole length of the light column. I've seen it happen. The hole I used is 1 mm in diameter. I almost could not see the light it gave off. But it was enough.
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Old 12/12/2006, 07:20 PM
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thank you, i put duct tape to form a small slit , but ill try to reduce it even more.

kathy, after you turn off your pumps, when do you add your snagger and turn on your mag light?

thank you.
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Old 12/12/2006, 08:06 PM
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LOL
A light coming from the sky, the little guys feel attracted then something sucked them inside and they are taken to a paralel world. Sounds like abduction!
Sorry
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Old 12/12/2006, 08:09 PM
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dont be sorry!

so your calling clown breeders alien abductors lol its kinda true in a way lol
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Old 12/12/2006, 09:06 PM
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Sequence of events:
Turn off pumps 15 minutes before lights out.
(turn on bubbler. I am absent minded and I don't want to lose my broodstock. If i forget to turn the pumps back on, the broodstock will be OK with just the bubbler.)
Install snagger, plug in minijet, adjust level.

Lights go out
Wait impatiently
30-45 minutes later, larvae arrive
When I don't see any more larvae enter the box, and a quick flashlight check reveals that the eggs have all hatched, I turn the lights back on.
Lift the corner of the box to raise the hole out of the water, and simultaneously turn off the minijet.
Remove minijet from box
Carefully remove box and immerse/pour larvae into larvae tank. Marvel at the tiny wonders!
Rinse snagger and put away
Turn parent tank pumps back on, and thank the broodstock.
Start a freshwater drip to reduce salinity in the larvae tank.
Turn all the lights out and go to bed.

In the morning, I take a digital picture, then I add live phytoplankton and enriched rotifers. If I am unlucky, I siphon dead bodies out of the tank. Luck has been with me lately, but you never know...
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Old 12/12/2006, 10:24 PM
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Lowering salinity for larva

Kathy,

Thank you for posting your routine! That is very helpful.

This is probably a dumb question from a relatively new breeder, but I don't ever recall reading in Wilkerson or Hoff to lower the salinity in the larva tank. What is the benefit to this? Does it increase survival of the larva?

Thanks,

Jamison
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Old 12/12/2006, 10:26 PM
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thanks kathy,

lowering salinity is in wilkersons book. she doenst know why but it appears to inc. survival rate.
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Old 12/12/2006, 10:29 PM
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Thanks embryoguy! It has been a while since I read Wilkerson's book, I must have completely missed that.

Hopefully that will help my success rate go up!

Jamison
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Old 12/12/2006, 11:14 PM
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my snagger worked perfectly !

checked at 45 after lights went off and worked!

most where in than





THANK YOU EVERYONE ! for your help

i feel so lucky get this many larvae my first attempt. my larvae hatcher worked perfectly.

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Old 12/12/2006, 11:56 PM
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Nice pictures of the new hatch!
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Old 12/13/2006, 12:09 AM
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thanks kathy, !

your advise was very helpful tonight.
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Old 12/13/2006, 12:11 AM
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my snagger worked perfectly !

checked at 45 after lights went off and worked!

most where in than



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Old 12/13/2006, 12:18 AM
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"And they're off!"

SWEET! LOOKS like you got many more larvae than I did! Good luck!

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Old 12/13/2006, 12:21 AM
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matt my snagger really worked well!

at 45 min, most were in the snaggger before i even shined the flashlight, so another 15 min of flashlight i picked up most of them. i saw some straggers inside the tank but decided to pull the snagger to get the majority into the larvae tank.
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Old 12/13/2006, 12:23 AM
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WOW great pics so far. keep us updated. also could you maybe describe how you made the snagger?
thanks

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Old 12/13/2006, 06:20 AM
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can we get a few more pics of your snagger? i would like to have one built and ready incase my fish decide they dont want to use the tile im going to use. and with the success your having seems like you have a solid design

congrats also
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Old 12/13/2006, 07:08 AM
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Old 12/13/2006, 07:11 AM
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honestly though, its not my idea, i would ask some of the other breeders, kathy, ie.. for there snagger plans. theres is prob more effective than mine.
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Old 12/13/2006, 07:16 AM
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ok so is that like an acrylic box like a specimin container with a piece of acrylic as a spacer? and i see the powerhead but where is the outlet on the powerhead going. i see the suction on the bottom but i dont see where the water exits.

and what kind of light is that?

sorry for all the questions but im trying to figure out exactly what i need and your design looks solid
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Old 12/13/2006, 07:59 AM
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its actually a cpr intank refugium and yes it is acrylic. the black divider is a spare part i had laying around from a filter. it has slits in it as you can see. i also cut apart a brine shrimp net and aligned it over the slits. there is a hole from where the rio 40 exits. that was premade. it was designed that way to work as a internal refugium. i put an adapter on the outlet so i can adjust the flow of the pump. i cut out a small square as the inlet. the light is a simple moon light. im going to switch it to a white light though.

but like i stated, this is my first attempt to collect them, so i can not know for sure how reliable this setup is. i would advise asking the other seasoned breeders with more experience and expertise in this area on the premise of a snagger. i think theres is prob. more effective.
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