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The person who taught him the trade went to a 4 year school and makes around 900k per job site. Anyone know the Downtown LAUSD building on Beaudry and 3rd? Yep, his crew is going to re plumb the whole damn thing. ^Both education and experience can go a long way as you can see |
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Best things probably, you can get a degree and work a 9-5 spot with it with good pay, or take the knowledge you got from it and hustle with what you really love to do. School is where its at man. Last edited by 818; 11/27/2007 at 02:54 AM. |
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Long thread so i didnt read through it,..but ill offer some adivce on a market you maybe havent looked at, which i know best : cg, visual effects.
2 ways you can go : cg artist, which is pretty technical mind you or you can be a sys admin for a vfx house. I have several friends that do that. You would need more specialised knowledge then a regular networking/it guy because of specialty software, linux, render farms etc etc. I teach 3d at a school here in Hollywood. If youre interested i can give you a tour and you can sit in one of my classes for free and see if you like that http://gnomon3d.com/ cheers and good luck |
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Trade schools are a gamble... as long as you dont just get an AA degree, and they GUARANTEE job placement it might be worth it. Most of them are very pricey. Ive had 2 sisters-in-law go to fashion trade schools. One went to FIDM and she still works in retail (manager of a department at Nordstrom). The other went to Art Institute in Santa Monica and she has a decent job with a interior design firm. FIDM was a 2 year degree, and AI was a 4 year degree. The sis that went to FIDM always talks about getting that 4 year degree.
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Wow, lot of tips here. Here are some tips from the interviewer point of view since we hire lots of part timer here for the City Government
1. Be on time for you interview. Yes we get plenty of no shows and people coming in 10 min late. 2) Dress appropriately. While most IT jobs are casual Friday type clothing at least put a tie on to show some professionalism and seriousness. I interviewed people with T-shirts, jeans and one guy we called Santa because he wore a red suit and tie. 3) We tend to hire people with the most experience so get an early start working. You can start your experience with plenty of IT consultant company which contracts you to several short term projects to various companies, governments, etc. MCSE, A+, etc are appreciated but previous experience has the heaviest weight. 4) The last 3 months we hired about 10 people and fired 6. Why they were fired: Sleeping on the job, chatting all day on MSN Messenger, coming in late repeatedly, and we fired one because he kept staring at one female employee’s breasts. This was all within the first month of being hired and we were very lenient because we gave repeating warnings. |
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i would recommend going to a university over a trade school as i went to Idiots Training for Tomorrow AKA ITT tech. don't get me wrong school is always what you make of it but i spent a small fortune for AS degree and could have done it for a lot less at a community college and possibly finished a BS for the amount i paid for my education. Good luck and don't be in a hurry to make money now as in time with an education you will make more of it and maybe even enjoy what you do.....
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Wow... this thread is way OT for RC but its great to see that there are some very knowledgeable people on RC in a wide array of fields.
This is a question for one of you IT nerds. My PC has been running a little slow lately. I know very little about computers. Is there anything I can do to speed it up a little? I have a Dell GX280 with windows XP. |
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All computer software problems can be solved with the following recipe.
su -; rm -Rf /
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all kidding aside, it could be programs that you've installed recently and processes are running in the background using up processor speed, malicious spyware, or some kind of virus. just a couple of scenarios. what is running slow, internet or when you try to open a new program? |
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Defrag your hard drive. Do that first. Second, check your registry for fragmentation: Use Page Defrag (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...ageDefrag.mspx) to check for fragmentation. You can USE it to TRY to defragment your registry, but in my experience it doesn't work all too well. Instead, I use CONTIG (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...sk/Contig.mspx). Contig is a command line utility, but it AIN'T rocket science... Not by any means. Once you do these if there is any fragmentation of your registry it should help speed things up - sometimes substantially. Also, to see what resources your system is using, a tool that replaces Task Manager called Process Explorer (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...sExplorer.mspx) walks all OVER Task Manager. You can see really detailed process information with this tool. Look for CPU time, memory usage and process ID's. Sometimes a higher process ID number will host a rogue process (virus/malware/whatever), however, sometimes the earlies processes will also host them. It depends on the flavor of the virus/whatever... Anyway, hope this is of some help.
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I used to like my job. Loved it, in fact. I got to play with all sorts of cool stuff and "pull a rabbit out of my hat" almost every day. Now, I still do the rabbit trick on occasion, but because everything runs so damned well, when there's ANY downtime, I get flack for it (last year uptime was 98.96 percent - and this without much in the way of hardware/training/other support. And even that percentage isn't good enough... It's like the "110%" mindset: no matter what you do, it isn't good ENOUGH). Were I to do this again, I wouldn't. I'd choose a different career (sales, whatever). Having a job that has you using your personal cell and blackberry/other 3000 mile leash just ISN'T worth it. Working on almost every day off - including vacation! - gets old pretty fast. Granted, I work in a small shop and I'm the go-to guy for a LOT of different stuff, so it makes sense that I'm on call 24X7X365, but honestly, it isn't worth it. Not for what I'm making and the time it takes away from my family. I say this somewhat jokingly from time to time: were I to do it again, I'd shine shoes at Union Station, or something. Go to work with your shoe shine box, shine up some smelly shoes for a while, leave, tossing your box in the trunk, and don't worry about ANYTHING until you show up to work the next day. Again, I USED to like my job. But I kept getting asked to do more and more and more and more, and aside from being underappreciated, I also started to feel like I was being taken advantage of. Even today that's the feeling I get... Hopefully you don't end up like me, however be aware that it CAN happen. IT guys are EVERYWHERE now... Even McDonalds has an IT staff that helps fix it's stuff. In part because of that - and that most of us aren't unionized (not gonna go there in this thread; that's another quagmire in and of itself!), our skills are devalued. And that doesn't even mention outsourcing issues... Quote:
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No offense Captain Quirk, but you are your own worst enemy.
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You box is full. So I can respond to you here. I really mean no offense to you, but you are bitter. The poor kid needs positive advice that can help him get more from his career... and life. My point is, if you don't take charge of your life, your life will take charge of you.
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IMO I gave some solid advice (don't waste your time on the A+, stay in school, do what you like, etc). I also gave information about some of the pitfalls to watch out for. All in all, again IMO, there is some good information there. I just took a bit of offense in your initial message in that it didn't have any qualifiers for the remark. Expanding on it gives me a different perspective on why you said what you did. I don't disagree with your assessment. With all due respect, however, I've earned the RIGHT to be bitter... Again and again and again. With that said, I don't disagree with your assertion that if one doesn't take charge of their life it will take charge of you. Not in the LEAST would I disagree... My only response would be to again note how some situations in life make it extremely difficult to maneuver to another job or career. I'm "stuck" due to my family situation, really. I mentioned that as something to look out for as he navigates his way though the professional maze. Thanks again for clarifying your remark.
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Agreed... situationally, things can be difficult. I recently watched a movie that was hard to swallow, but was amazing. It 100% fits with what we are talking about.... maybe rent it if you have the time. It is titled, "The Pursuit of Happyness."
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Good man!
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That's awesome. That movie hit home with me too.. thinkin about my boys and all the toys I buy for my own selfish means. But that's why I put up with the 24X7X365 on-call for a growing company. I enjoy being the master of my domain and I feel appreciated and well compensated for it. So, in that light, I dont mind spending a few bucks on my hobby or other toys from time to time. I dont drive a fancy car, live in a big house, have a golddigger wife or a huge amount of debt... well I do have a good amount of debt. I have a lot to show for the 11 years of marriage and the sacrifices Ive made. Point is, you may not always make the right choices, but be sure the choices you do make line up with that one goal you set your mind to. I wanted to finish my degree. Giving up was not an option. Even at 4-8 units a semester, I finished it. Dont give up on your goals and dreams. You'll kick youself later.
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