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Old 11/04/2005, 09:47 AM
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Awesome site, but I am unable to compare two different bulbs

I will be replacing my 250W AB DE 20kk shortly, its a single bulb setup so no actinics for me, heard good things about the phoenix 14kk and was wondering if this would be a better choice. Ideas or suggestions?
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Old 11/04/2005, 11:02 AM
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I have been told that the Phoenix bulb is coming from Japan. FWIW

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Old 11/04/2005, 04:08 PM
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Sanjay,
What instrument can you use to test the age/effectiveness of a halide bulb? I would like to get as much use out of my bulbs as possible and have thought about purchasing something to test them. What would I need and where would I buy it?
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Old 11/04/2005, 05:08 PM
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Doug...you dont say!!!

http://www.phoenix-elec.co.jp/index.htm
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Old 11/05/2005, 11:45 AM
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Sanjay,
What instrument can you use to test the age/effectiveness of a halide bulb? I would like to get as much use out of my bulbs as possible and have thought about purchasing something to test them. What would I need and where would I buy it?
The instrument you would need is called a PAR or Quantum meter. A "cheap" one is the Apogee PAR meter and it wil do fine for comparative purposes. It has its flaws, but for what you want to do it will suffice.

http://www.apogee-inst.com/pdf_files/qmsw-ss.pdf

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Old 11/08/2005, 10:25 PM
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Sanjay, I have been using 175W Coralue 14K's with T5 pure actinic supplementation on my 72G bow. I am not happy with visual color and tank seems fairly dim. I will continue to use the T5's but would I be better off with 10K XM's or 10K ushio's for a nice crisp white and good par? Thanks so much for any help. I am using the Aquatinics fixture which sits flush on tank.
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Old 11/08/2005, 10:30 PM
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Let's look at the 250 watt SE test to compare.
I'm not sure what ballast that is so i'll just use a standard ballast for comparison:

CoralVue 12K 44.18 PPFD
CoralVue 15K 39 PPFD
XM 10k 137 PPFD
Ushio 10k 118.2 PPFD

If your ballast is different it may change these numbers a bit. But you can see that the XM and Ushio will give you much more kick in the PAR and will be a more crisp white light.

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issu...004/review.htm
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issu...004/review.htm
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Old 11/11/2005, 01:33 PM
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where can you buy those 400 watt hqi tawain ballasts?
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Old 11/12/2005, 12:51 AM
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I am not sure who is retailing it. I was told that it was being brought in by ALL SEAS (a wholesaler).

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Old 11/14/2005, 09:51 AM
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Hello Sanjay,

I am in the market for 250w se bulb's..... for the last year an a half i've been running AB 10k's .....but going forward i'd like to see a little more on the blue side.....

Somewhere in the 14k range maybe? with high PAR.

They will be run with the icecap electronic ballast with 1-10k & 1-super actinic VHO as supplements.

What would you suggest?

Thanks AL.
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Old 11/14/2005, 12:29 PM
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any numbers for 400 watt se 6500k iwasaki? the 250 watt gives 189 par on pfo, wondering what par a 400 watt would put out.
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Old 11/15/2005, 03:05 PM
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any numbers for 400 watt se 6500k iwasaki? the 250 watt gives 189 par on pfo, wondering what par a 400 watt would put out.
The data I have for the Iwasaki 400W on standard magnetic ballast had a PPFD of about 205. Those lamps were test way back in 1997 and I lost all that data to a virus, hence it not on the web site. Its in the very first article I wrote.

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Old 11/15/2005, 03:06 PM
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The first set of data on 175W lamps is now available.

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2005/11/aafeature2

enjoy.

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Old 11/15/2005, 03:10 PM
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Sanjay,
Great site and a lot of useful info. I did not however see any info on the coralvue 400 W DE's. Do you have any numbers on these or any other 400W DE bulbs? I'm going to run 4 of them on a 7' long, 3' deep tank. I have coralvue 400 W HQI electronic ballast to run them with. Just looking for some good bulbs to use. Thanks.
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Old 11/15/2005, 11:31 PM
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any comparison on 150 and 250 HQIs Im looking at 3 150 or 3 250 14k HQI with VHO actinic but need some recomendation on setup Ie... it will be in a canopy on a 225 72 long x 30deep x 24 high (so should i go with a fixture or pendents or retro im cornfused....
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Old 11/15/2005, 11:44 PM
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Sanjay,
Great site and a lot of useful info. I did not however see any info on the coralvue 400 W DE's. Do you have any numbers on these or any other 400W DE bulbs? I'm going to run 4 of them on a 7' long, 3' deep tank. I have coralvue 400 W HQI electronic ballast to run them with. Just looking for some good bulbs to use. Thanks.
I have not seen the coralvue 400 DE.

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Old 11/16/2005, 12:20 AM
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Sanjay, did you had the chance to test out the new 14kk BLVs? Thanks
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Old 11/16/2005, 09:52 AM
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Thanks. Have you tested any of the 400W DE bulbs?
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Old 11/16/2005, 09:54 AM
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Have you tested any of the 400 W DE bulbs? Just looking for info before I go buy new bulbs.

The pendants I got came with 2 20K and 1 14K bulbs that were used. The 20K's have a nice blue white color but the 14K was real yellow.
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Old 11/17/2005, 01:33 AM
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Did you look on the site...there are many 400wattDE bulbs listed...
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Old 11/17/2005, 08:13 AM
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Have you tested any of the 400 W DE bulbs? Just looking for info before I go buy new bulbs.

The pendants I got came with 2 20K and 1 14K bulbs that were used. The 20K's have a nice blue white color but the 14K was real yellow.
Yes. Check the site.

From what I have heard, there are only 2 sources for the lamps. One in China and one in Korea. Hence there are differences in the lenght of the lamps.

The Happy Reefing lamps that I tested are Chinese, and as far as I know HR is out of business. It is quite possible that others are bringing in the same lamps witih private labels.

I have a collection of the PFO Krystal Star lamps in queue to be tested.

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Old 11/17/2005, 08:16 AM
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Sanjay

Have you collected any data on the NEW BLV/USHIO 14K?

I just put one over my tank and its bright for a 14K.
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Old 11/17/2005, 08:45 AM
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Its also in the queue. I am finishing of the 175W lamps right now.

Unfortunately, there is only a limited amount of time I can spend doing this.

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Old 11/17/2005, 11:35 AM
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Old 11/18/2005, 04:15 PM
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I'm looking at buying a couple of pendant lights. The model I like right now is the Aqua Medic Ocean Pendant, 250 DE bulbs. It comes with a magnetic ballast, but says it can be upgraded to an electronic ballast. Can I assume that the magnetic ballast is an M80 and will perform close to the results given on Sanjay's giant database of light.
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