ATB Conical Shape Skimmer Club - Page 7

ATB USA · #**151** 01/05/2008, 01:31 AM

US medium taken apart

ATB USA · #**152** 01/05/2008, 01:33 AM

US Large

mr294 · #**153** 01/05/2008, 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by flyingphish
i got lazy and decided to just throw the skimmer in the sump and continue to let the tank just drain into the sump bypassing the sock. i do have my chiller return dumping into the sock, but its not picking up much debris.

do we even need a sock? thats another debate i know.

either way, ive noticed no difference. no micro bubbles either so no need to baffle the skimmer effluent...

Good to know on the micro bubbles. If the sock clogs too quickly running the drain through it, I'm probably just going to remove it. The media chambers should prevent any micro bubbles from making it back to the return, and I'm really too lazy to change the filter sock on a daily basis

hahnmeister · #**154** 01/05/2008, 02:07 AM

Here... you all will dig this...lol:
Okay, so I started dosing some KENT additives (essential elements and Coral Vite) because they contain potassium, iron, strontium, molybdenum... all the things that some EU companies sell for 4x more.

Anyways... my skimmate changed... So I was cleaning the 'baby pooh' and it was more like black oil. I suppose you can 'overskim'...lol. Whatever was in the Kent stuff ended up in my cup later on.

Here is my finger about 1/4-3/8" away from the side of the wall (Yeah, I was brave and took one for the team that day...lol):

Here I move my finger back about another 1/4-3/8":

When I emptied it, it looked like crude in the bottom of my cup:

ATB USA · #**155** 01/05/2008, 02:53 AM

Looks like you can sell it as crude oil by the barrel its up to a 100 bucks

GSMguy · #**156** 01/05/2008, 10:26 AM

hahn has the darkest skimmate i have ever seen, those kent additives must be made from Crude.
that must smell Great.

mr294 · #**157** 01/05/2008, 10:30 AM

The new US models look great! My only suggestion for Anton is to find a classier sticker for the collection cup

xinumaster · #**158** 01/05/2008, 02:31 PM

I ordered a red skimmer. Is that medium skimmer for me, Victor? What pump is on that skimmer?

ATB USA · #**159** 01/05/2008, 04:31 PM

Perry you actually order the large skimmer
air star 1500

xinumaster · #**160** 01/05/2008, 04:36 PM

I don't think the large is going to fit in my sump. Is the "normal" means large? What is the foot print for the large? I can only fit a 20x23 in my sump.

xinumaster · #**161** 01/05/2008, 04:40 PM

I see. I checked your website you actually already changed the model name for the conical skimmers.

GuySmilie · #**162** 01/06/2008, 09:42 AM

For anyone interested in the layout mechanics of this type of skimmer, which is technically called the frustum of a cone, here is a simple free layout program that will create a cut pattern for the acrylic body. You can dial in any dimensions you like.

hahnmeister · #**163** 01/06/2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by xinumaster
I see. I checked your website you actually already changed the model name for the conical skimmers.

Ill admit, the more I think about it, and the more I see people confusing the old and new naming, perhaps it would just be better to have them called 'Model 1' through 'Model 5' or something... that way people dont confuse the old Small (now medium) for the new Small (was nano mk.2). The www.aquariumtechnik.at site calls calls them by their old names even, so the 'nano' still exists, its just a 'B' model rather than the new 'Small'.

Or, perhaps, to eliminate confusion, since the base diameters of all these cones seem to be rather unique (not your usual 200 and 250 mm diameters), perhaps having them called by their base diameter isnt so bad... a 'cone 260' would mean just one body (new medium), 'cone 200' (new nano), or 'cone 330' would be the new large. This way, nobody could confuse them... not even with old models, because their base diameters would be 'cone 240 (mine)' , 'cone 160' (original nano) and maybe 'cone 600' for an xxl industrial model.

hahnmeister · #**164** 01/06/2008, 10:02 AM

dp

reef / aholic · #**165** 01/06/2008, 10:22 AM

hahnmeister - Good idea because I was about to post last night the same thing about being confused on what each one is being called now and in the past. Can we get current information on the ATB Conical Shape Skimmers and post this over on Sponsor Forums > ATBskimmers.com.

. name or model number
. specifications - length, width, height and neck
. color – white, black, grey or red
. pump – Eheim or Air-Star
. aquarium rating

ATB USA · #**166** 01/06/2008, 12:16 PM

reef/ aholic
All the info you requested can be found on atbskimmers.com except the neck size and color info. All skimmers can be made in red and grey, grey, or red and white but the small will have a grey tee though. Currently we are only stocking red and grey.
Thaanks

hahnmeister · #**167** 01/06/2008, 01:31 PM

Can I get UV purple body with mirrored lid and clear piping?

Actually... we were talking about that Victor... I think it might be a good idea to make the outlet pipe clear, perhaps as an option. It would sure make figuring out the actual waterline alot easier considering the bubble density makes it very hard to draw that line between the water and the air.

GSMguy · #**168** 01/06/2008, 01:34 PM

Any pics of the Air star in action?

hahnmeister · #**169** 01/06/2008, 01:59 PM

No, these skimmers are too pretty to actually run. We just put them on our dining room tables as center-pieces. The red color goes great with a rose bouquet.

reef / aholic · #**170** 01/06/2008, 02:10 PM

What about any other Air-Star pumps offered by ATB. The only information I can find on them is for Milking Systems.

What about which skimmer is rated for what aquarium?

hahnmeister or aton - could we also incorporate something like this?

GSMguy · #**171** 01/06/2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by reef / aholic
What about any other Air-Star pumps offered by ATB. The only information I can find on them is for Milking Systems.

Rofl

The milking system and the Air star skimmer pump are not the same lol

I dont think anybody has seen the air star in action yet really.

Who has one?

xinumaster · #**172** 01/06/2008, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hahnmeister
Can I get UV purple body with mirrored lid and clear piping?

Actually... we were talking about that Victor... I think it might be a good idea to make the outlet pipe clear, perhaps as an option. It would sure make figuring out the actual waterline alot easier considering the bubble density makes it very hard to draw that line between the water and the air.

A clear pipe might not be a good idea. It can get easily encrusted with coralline which would be tough to clean.

Canarygirl · #**173** 01/06/2008, 02:50 PM

I second Hahnmeister's suggestion to incorporate the cone dimenions into the model names.

--owner of original 160 nano, now "small" skimmer (is that right?)

hahnmeister · #**174** 01/06/2008, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xinumaster
A clear pipe might not be a good idea. It can get easily encrusted with coralline which would be tough to clean.

Do you keep your skimmer in a place with that much light? The same argument could be made for the clear body as well... at least a standpipe is a cheap and easy thing to replace.

ATB USA · #**175** 01/06/2008, 09:12 PM

I'm sorry reef/aholic my web guy must of misunderstood me and took all that info off I will have it put up again
These are recommendations i have received for a moderately stocked tank

small up to 198 gallons
medium up to 396 gallons
large up to 660 gallons
xl up to 1450