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Old 07/05/2004, 11:34 AM
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Anthias ID please...



I got this little guy over the weekend, relatively sure he was a lyretail. However, examining more pictures of anthias varieties, I'm completely confused now. He has a red stripe up the 'aft' edge of his tail that I don't see in other pictures. Like lipstick or a paint stripe.

So any anthias lovers out there can point me in the right direction for an ID?
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Old 07/05/2004, 04:30 PM
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I hate to bump but - anybody ??
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Old 07/06/2004, 07:25 AM
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one more time.....
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Old 07/06/2004, 09:01 AM
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Not sure, but I'm thinking a Hawaiian bi-color anthias?
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Old 07/06/2004, 10:05 AM
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His body looks like it has a yellow base with a thin purple finish over that, a purple dorsal and the tail is red. Sorry I dont have a better picture.... Closest match is a Yellow Anthias, but the tail is still different.
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Old 07/06/2004, 01:43 PM
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Yeah, that diesn't sound like a Yellow Anthias. I just purchased one about a week ago, and it is basically yellow all over, with a hint of red on the body. Try a search for Hawaiian Anthias on the web and see if that isn't what he looks like. Sorry, couldn't be of more help.
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Old 07/06/2004, 02:05 PM
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Thanks for trying. I've been all over the web and found some that are close on fishbase.com, saltwaterfish.com, saltcorner.com but no cigars. None.

Hopefully somebody can chime in soon....
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Old 07/06/2004, 03:27 PM
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Looks like wrasse instead of an anthias to me. Do you have a picture with the fins opened? Might be Paracheilinus sp.
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Old 07/06/2004, 04:48 PM
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I will try to get a photo and upload it as soon as I can, however, my camera leaves a lot to be desired....
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Old 07/06/2004, 05:08 PM
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i cant see his tail very well. Does he has two red parts in the corners?
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Old 07/06/2004, 05:30 PM
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btw, although i havent seen more than few picture of them, you might want to check Pseudoanthias kashiwae as this looks like it a bit.
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Old 07/06/2004, 05:33 PM
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i have 3 of thease its a bartlett
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Old 07/06/2004, 05:48 PM
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The body coloration looks like bartlett's but the tail looks totally different
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Old 07/06/2004, 06:06 PM
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It doesn't look like a Lyretail. The Males will have a red dot on the dorsal fins. The females have a pink stripe that runs from the eye to the dorsal fin.

The male in the picture is a little dark but you can see the red spot. http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...d=21&pCatId=54

I'd say its a bartlett's too but the tail doesn't look right.
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Old 07/06/2004, 07:37 PM
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I agree not a Bartlett's, but I'm no expert. The tail has a larger red blob on the top and bottom tips, and a stripe that's pretty thin up the edge. The body coloration is a light pinkish with yellow undertones - really hard to describe.

He's not eating much - he ate some meaty stuff earlier but is kind of slowing down now. I hope he's going to be okay.... Meanwhile I"ll try to get a better photo of him.
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Old 07/06/2004, 07:43 PM
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This photo of a Pseudoanthias kashiwae doesn't match. It has more green in the body and the pec fins are bluish. Either that or it's a different sex.
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...d=21&pCatId=93

The fins are a very light pink - almost transparent, except for the dorsal which is a bright purple.
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Old 07/06/2004, 07:56 PM
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Here is a better image of his tail
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...04anthias9.jpg
and one of his fins
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...04anthias8.jpg
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Old 07/06/2004, 08:07 PM
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And finally....
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...04anthias6.jpg
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Old 07/06/2004, 08:21 PM
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Pseudanthias hypselosoma

I may have just found it here
http://www.reefimages.com/cgi-reefim...s&slide=11.jpg
Stocky or Siverstreak anthias, Female, Pseudanthias hypselosoma
The colors match and the tail streak is the same.
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Old 07/06/2004, 10:12 PM
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Glad you found an ID. It's a nice looking fish.
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Old 07/07/2004, 06:21 AM
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oh yeah thats him
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Old 07/07/2004, 08:19 AM
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er, uh, that's her.

She's not eating, so it's not looking very good right now. Thanks for your help!
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Old 07/07/2004, 11:48 AM
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Try some Live Brine. If it likes it use brine for several days then introduce frozen. If it takes frozen try Mysis shrimp after a few days.

Mine at this point will even eat flake food. It also loves the CYCLOP-EEZE frozen bar.
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Old 03/02/2007, 05:18 PM
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So, did this fish mature into a stocky anthias? We recently picked up some of these little pink anthias with the red tips to the tail and can't decide if they are juvi red belted P. rubrizonatus or juvi Stocky anthias. Do you have any updated pics?
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Old 03/02/2007, 05:59 PM
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Sorry, but that fish did not survive long. I think it was a silversides. Since then I've also gotten out of the hobby and got rid of my tank and gear.
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