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Old 07/23/2007, 10:03 PM
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Old 07/23/2007, 10:04 PM
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I run a 4x24 retro kit about 6 inches off the waters surface and
I was wondering how close can I run them before I need some kind of shield ?
As long as you have moisture resistant endcaps you can run them as low as you wan't. If you get much below 4 inches you will constantly be cleaning salt spray off the reflectors which will eventually ruin them.
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Old 07/23/2007, 10:15 PM
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"Hi Grim,

I have a 105G (48Lx19Wx29H) that I am putting together. I picked up a Teklight 8 bulb fixture at a great price. I am wanting to start off with LPS, eventually moving to SPS and maybe clams. What combo of bulbs would you run on this type of setup? I like a setup that makes the corals pop and is a little blue but not overly so. Can you help me out here? Thanks for your great input!

Ted"

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Blue Plus
Super Actinic
UVL Aquasun
Aquablue
GE 6500k
Super Actinic
Aquablue
Blue Plus.
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Old 07/24/2007, 10:18 AM
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Grim,
what would you say gives better actinic coloration

T12 - 30watt URI super actinic

or

T5 54watt Blue plus

any opinion/evidence?
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Old 07/24/2007, 11:09 AM
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Havent seen a 30 watt super actinic so i cant say. I know the Blue Plus will put out more light but that doesnt mean it will look better.
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Old 07/25/2007, 07:11 PM
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Old 07/26/2007, 01:41 AM
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Grim i have a tek 4x54 retro. My bulb combo is
(blue+,geisemann midday,giesemann pure actinic 03, blue+)

So far i have the lights pretty far from the tank about 12" ( havent finished my canopy) The problem is that the pure actinic is kind of dull so i see a purple/brown line in my tank. You think if i get the super actinic it will blend in more? Maybe its just to far from the tank now.

Thanks
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Old 07/26/2007, 02:06 AM
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Could be the distance but a super actinic will blend better.
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Old 07/26/2007, 10:41 AM
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Ok thanks. Im going to see if i get the super actinic anyway because my true actinic is way to dull. Why do people even put true actinics if the super actinics are much brighter?
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Old 07/26/2007, 03:32 PM
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I've had my TX5 unit up (only running 3 of 5 bulbs) for 3 days so far and have seen no discoloration from my corals (regarding acclimation shock).

Am I safe to add the other bulbs into the mix or wait a few more days?
If this light was too intense should I have noticed a coral whitening by now?
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Old 07/26/2007, 11:03 PM
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Grim,

I work at LFS and I can get myself URI bulbs, but none of the vendors we use seem to carry either the ATI bulbs or the GE bulbs. Do you have any recommendations as to good places to order the ATI and GE bulbs from?

Also, for the GE bulbs, with the fact that it's GE and its a normal spectrum plant bulb you recommended, could this bulb potentially be available at somewhere like home depot?

Thanks
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Old 07/27/2007, 01:09 AM
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reefgeek.com carries GE and ATI bulbs
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Old 07/27/2007, 01:22 AM
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I've had my TX5 unit up (only running 3 of 5 bulbs) for 3 days so far and have seen no discoloration from my corals (regarding acclimation shock).

Am I safe to add the other bulbs into the mix or wait a few more days?
If this light was too intense should I have noticed a coral whitening by now?
Just keep an eye on things and add the other 2 lamps.
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Old 07/27/2007, 02:22 AM
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ive been told by a few people that my tek 8 bulb fixture is to much light for a 40 breeder im etting up. its going to be an acro only tank. i like 14k-20k look what bulbs would your recomend that would give me good growth color and not bleach my sps
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Old 07/27/2007, 07:58 AM
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grim, i'm surprised that you don't start up your own website and charge $ with all the questions you answer. This one will probably be easy for ya but i want to make sure. if i'm running 2x250w mh in conjunction with 4x54w t5's and want to replace just the t5's do i need to acclimate the corals to that. Just want to change out the stock current t5 with 2x sfiligoi sa and 2x fiji purples. Thanks, and just put it on my tab.
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Old 07/27/2007, 02:24 PM
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ive been told by a few people that my tek 8 bulb fixture is to much light for a 40 breeder im etting up. its going to be an acro only tank. i like 14k-20k look what bulbs would your recomend that would give me good growth color and not bleach my sps
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Super Actinic
UVL Aquasun or GE 3000K
Blue Plus
Super Actinic
GE 6500K
Super Actinic
Blue Plus

Just loading up on actinics will cut the PAR.
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Old 07/27/2007, 02:27 PM
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grim, i'm surprised that you don't start up your own website and charge $ with all the questions you answer. This one will probably be easy for ya but i want to make sure. if i'm running 2x250w mh in conjunction with 4x54w t5's and want to replace just the t5's do i need to acclimate the corals to that. Just want to change out the stock current t5 with 2x sfiligoi sa and 2x fiji purples. Thanks, and just put it on my tab.
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You shouldn't need to acclimate for supplimental lighting.
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Old 07/27/2007, 03:52 PM
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hi Grim. i have a 4 bulb tek light set up on a 75g tank. can you suggest the best 4 bulb t5 combo for me. no sps. like thinking 2 actinic bulbs and 2 others. thanks.
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Old 07/28/2007, 01:45 AM
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Grim heres a shot of my tank. The lights are temporarily far from the top of tank. Im going to swap out the True actinic for uvl super actinic but do you think i should swap out the geisemann 6000k midday for the ge 6500k?

Running
Blue+
Geisemann 6000k midday
ATI True actinic
Blue+

(Its bare just finish setting it up a month and half ago)
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Old 07/28/2007, 02:58 AM
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hi Grim. i have a 4 bulb tek light set up on a 75g tank. can you suggest the best 4 bulb t5 combo for me. no sps. like thinking 2 actinic bulbs and 2 others. thanks.

Be a sport and try this

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UVL Super Actinic
UVL 75/25
ATI Blue Plus

The 75/25 is called an aquablue but it has more of a pinkish hue to it. With the 2 blues and the super actinic you should get a strong 14K halide look leaning to the blue side. Should make softies and LPS glow with all the actinic in those.
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Old 07/28/2007, 03:00 AM
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Grim heres a shot of my tank. The lights are temporarily far from the top of tank. Im going to swap out the True actinic for uvl super actinic but do you think i should swap out the geisemann 6000k midday for the ge 6500k?

Running
Blue+
Geisemann 6000k midday
ATI True actinic
Blue+

(Its bare just finish setting it up a month and half ago)
Nice rockwork!

I wouldn't swap the Midday for the GE, niot much of a difference between the two.
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Old 07/28/2007, 07:59 AM
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Thanks, Ok ill leave it, i thought i had read on this thread a while back that corals actually grew better with the 6000k than the 6500k, That they utilized more of the light, correct me if I am wrong.
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Old 07/28/2007, 09:50 AM
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I really know of no solid evidence of any company with a lamp that is tweaked to the sweet spot in PAR. Thats not to say it can't be done but I would want to see the graph showing the output.
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Old 07/28/2007, 10:11 AM
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Be a sport and try this

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ATI Blue Plus
UVL Super Actinic
UVL 75/25
ATI Blue Plus

The 75/25 is called an aquablue but it has more of a pinkish hue to it. With the 2 blues and the super actinic you should get a strong 14K halide look leaning to the blue side. Should make softies and LPS glow with all the actinic in those.
Thanks a bunch Grim!!
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Old 07/28/2007, 10:36 AM
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