My peppermint shrimp, murdered?

Maxi · #1 09/13/2007, 07:47 PM

I think my pistol shrimp finally got a bunch of shots on the peppermint shrimp. He is eating him, and the goby is at the other side of the tunnel getting fed by me.
Was the pistol shrimp the cause of this? He keeps snapping at it too.
He was alive and kicking a couple hours ago when I got home.. =\
Is it possible?

cd77 · #2 09/13/2007, 07:52 PM

Check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPrGxB1Kzc

Maxi · #3 09/13/2007, 07:59 PM

Oh so shrimp are its prey?
That's nice to know now

Why didn't eat it mysis though

Well I gotta get another peppermint shrimp though.. I have to keep the tiny amounts of aptasia that come out under control.

jsr · #4 09/13/2007, 08:01 PM

Just hope he does not confuse your fingers with a shrimp! They do have the nickname "thumb-splitters".

cd77 · #5 09/13/2007, 08:05 PM

Apparently so. I'm fairly new to the hobby but like to learn -- Where did you come across that thing? Just the LFS?

The cavitation bubble that thing creates can get as hot as the sun blasting water at a speed of 1km/hr. Amazing.

Wow. If that is what you have, that's awesome -- and I guess you'll be feeding it shrimp.

cd77 · #6 09/13/2007, 08:10 PM

Post a picture, please

coast2coast7390 · #7 09/13/2007, 08:10 PM

they love shrimp....i think mine took out a peppermint and a cleaner

Maxi · #8 09/13/2007, 08:15 PM

Pictures of the goby and pistol shrimp...

I'll post a pic of the dead peppermint later.. should I leave it in there and let it eat some with the hermits? The hermits are just loving it.

cd77 · #9 09/13/2007, 08:29 PM

Where did you get it?

Can the pressure wave that this thing creates when it snaps danger your tank??

Maxi · #10 09/13/2007, 08:35 PM

I asked my LFS to order it for me with the goby. Cost me around 45 dollars.
The video states that it can reach the temperature of the sun- I believe that is not true. It would melt sand at that temperature, would of probably fried my hermits by now. It probably paralized the peppermint, I believe that, but I don't believe it reachest the temperature of the sun.

seastar12 · #11 09/13/2007, 08:37 PM

Maxi that is a nice pistol/goby pair you have there.

cd77 · #12 09/13/2007, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Maxi
The video states that it can reach the temperature of the sun- I believe that is not true. It would melt sand at that temperature, would of probably fried my hermits by now. It probably paralized the peppermint, I believe that, but I don't believe it reachest the temperature of the sun.

Believe it. It's only temporary (like milliseconds) and I think its just at the point of of the bubble created when the pistol snaps. There are plenty of resources online to confirm it. I doubt the temporary temperature spike will harm your tank, but that pressure wave seems kinda powerful.

Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpheidae and http://www.nature.com/nature/journal.../413477a0.html

Maxi · #13 09/13/2007, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by seastar12
Maxi that is a nice pistol/goby pair you have there.

Thank you

Ok, I believe it now when you say miliseconds...!

75Gallons · #14 09/13/2007, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Maxi
Pictures of the goby and pistol shrimp...

I'll post a pic of the dead peppermint later.. should I leave it in there and let it eat some with the hermits? The hermits are just loving it.

Thats a beautiful fish what type is it?

75Gallons · #15 09/13/2007, 10:10 PM

The effect the pistol shrimp creates is called cavitation (death bubble). The mantis shrimp uses the same method to produce the force to kill its prey. Also how their able to hit with the force of a 22 cal bullet.

cd77 · #16 09/13/2007, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 75Gallons
The effect the pistol shrimp creates is called cavitation (death bubble). The mantis shrimp uses the same method to produce the force to kill its prey. Also how their able to hit with the force of a 22 cal bullet.

Sounds like enough force to break glass to me.

Jon05 · #17 09/13/2007, 10:37 PM

Seems like that could be pretty painful if it were to hit your hand

What are the chances of it going for a fire shrimp, I'd like one in my tank but not if its going to eat my fire shrimp

boomsticks · #18 09/14/2007, 01:18 PM

I have owned a mantis for quite sometime now. It has broken a heater and split my fingernail twice. When he hits something at full force the cavitation bubble will actually create light. That is the energy being released now I know it does reach extremely high temps. I doubt it gets as hot as the surface of the sun though.

Pea-brain · #19 09/14/2007, 01:37 PM

For the record, only the peacock mantis O. scyllarus an G. chriagra are strong enough to break glass. There are others, but they are rarely in the trade or rarely get to the sizes needed to break glass.

Dan

cd77 · #20 09/14/2007, 02:01 PM

Thanks, Dan.

boomsticks -- Look at the links I've posted and do some research, scientists estimate of at least 5000K -- 780K more and you've got the Sun's surface temperature.

Maxi · #21 09/14/2007, 08:47 PM

75gallons,
that fish is a hi fin red banded goby.
There are like 5 different names for it though
hi fin red banded
yellow rose goby
barbershop goby
candy cane goby

can't remember the other one