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Old 08/23/2006, 05:19 PM
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thank you , never thought about useing them.

however if you ship your corals i bet it costs way more in the long run to use the tiles over the lighter plastic.

considering shipping companies charge by the pound, the extra cost for shipping with tiles over plastic would be $0...
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Old 08/23/2006, 08:06 PM
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Per pound would make a slight difference. plastic plug weights next to nothing, and the tile ways a bit more then next to nothing Add a bit of more water to the plastic plug one, and it'll cost more to ship, then the tile one
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Old 08/23/2006, 09:57 PM
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The plugs are as light as they can be made without gaining in buoyancy too much.
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Old 08/23/2006, 10:47 PM
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I cant remember where I saw it but here goes my description....

It was a 2 part system of differant preformed rocks with plug holes in them and preformed frag plugs that fit in the holes.

Does anyone have a idea where I could find info on this idea?
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Old 08/23/2006, 11:12 PM
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Per pound would make a slight difference. plastic plug weights next to nothing, and the tile ways a bit more then next to nothing Add a bit of more water to the plastic plug one, and it'll cost more to ship, then the tile one

maybe, but I really don't think those tiles weigh more than 1/2 oz, honestly the weight at that point is negligible, what it really comes down to is how much water is in the bag, and how heavy the box is...
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Old 08/23/2006, 11:25 PM
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I cant remember where I saw it but here goes my description....

It was a 2 part system of differant preformed rocks with plug holes in them and preformed frag plugs that fit in the holes.

Does anyone have a idea where I could find info on this idea?
Have you been in Tempe, Arizona in the last year?
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Old 08/24/2006, 12:35 AM
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considering shipping companies charge by the pound, the extra cost for shipping with tiles over plastic would be $0...
really? i thought the overnight shipping went by the oz .
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Old 08/24/2006, 06:18 AM
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By the pound. The only time it would change, would be if the extra weight put it over the next lb. If it weighs 6lbs 2 oz. It goes to 7 lbs.
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Old 08/24/2006, 08:33 AM
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really? i thought the overnight shipping went by the oz .
Actually, overnight shipping is billed at dimensional weight. for example, a 12 x 12 x 12 box weighing 3.5 lbs is going to be billed at like 9 lbs..... Dimensional weight is figured by multiplying LxWxH, then dividing by 194. That will equal the billable dimesional weight...






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Old 08/24/2006, 10:17 AM
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By the pound. The only time it would change, would be if the extra weight put it over the next lb. If it weighs 6lbs 2 oz. It goes to 7 lbs.
ok if each tile weighed a oz rather than like maybe 1/4 oz and you shipped 10 frags you could get to the next pound quite often and easily eat up any savings on the plugs.
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Old 08/24/2006, 11:30 AM
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maybe, but I really don't think those tiles weigh more than 1/2 oz, honestly the weight at that point is negligible, what it really comes down to is how much water is in the bag, and how heavy the box is...
Your agreeing with my point, I was kinda being sarcastic LIke I saide, if you happen to fill one bag a bit more, it'll way more then if you did add a tile to it
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Old 08/24/2006, 11:33 AM
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Have you been in Tempe, Arizona in the last year?

There's that guy nameed Gooch, that is making doing them out of ceramic, both plugs and rocks for the plugs.
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Old 08/24/2006, 12:21 PM
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We made a few aragocrete mounts for the pvc plugs, they work rather well for continuing growout from a frag to a small colony. I have a few at the store that you cant even tell there was a plug to begin with.
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Old 08/24/2006, 05:43 PM
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Got pics
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Old 08/24/2006, 06:28 PM
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Ill see if I can get some tomorrow.
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Old 08/24/2006, 07:06 PM
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It seems to me that you could build some LFS store loyalty by selling plugs that mate up with your agracrete rocks. You could give away a football size rock with 4-8 plug holes if you buy a few frags. The key is selling your frags that fit nicely into the holes but not so well for other stores frags.

ie..square or triangular holes in the rock and you sell plugs that sizeand shape.
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Old 08/28/2006, 11:11 AM
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So who has tried these and what do you think. I'd love to hear some advantages and drawbacks. I just ordered 50 of them the other day so I'm just starting my testing.
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Old 08/28/2006, 05:42 PM
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There's that guy nameed Gooch, that is making doing them out of ceramic, both plugs and rocks for the plugs.
I have a bag from Gooch, good stuff, good guy.
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Old 08/29/2006, 04:58 PM
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Gooches look nice.
I am surprised someone isn't doing that with molded cement. If you had 5-10 interlocking rocks with frag holes. If they were about football size you could mix and match to come up with some unique rock-scape. If you dumped them in the ocean for awhile you could sell them for over $10 a pound retail. If the plug holes were a unique shape you customers would look for plugged frags that fit.
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Old 09/02/2006, 05:35 PM
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I have a bag from Gooch, good stuff, good guy.
Thanks, glad you like em.

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Old 12/29/2006, 05:44 PM
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these guys quit ?
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Old 12/29/2006, 05:49 PM
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my bad , the link was just dead http://www.aquaticodyssey.com/ is up

these things are really neet : )
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Old 12/29/2006, 07:55 PM
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Hmmm, we found polycarbonate to be too lightweight to stay in place with the Fragpod's. PVC was the only common material we found to be dense enough to keep the frags from flying away with decent flow.

Wonder if those have been tested in a high flow environment.
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Old 12/29/2006, 11:00 PM
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Tried, tested and approved by me in my system I love em. They fit snuggly on the "cross sections" of the eggcrate. If you put them in the squares, they can move a little side to side, but I have yet to have them blow out. That's even when I mess around and remove the contoller on the Stream (full force).



FWIW his (Aquatic Oddyssey's) new site for those is www.coralcradles.com
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Old 12/29/2006, 11:11 PM
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Hmmm, we found polycarbonate to be too lightweight to stay in place with the Fragpod's. PVC was the only common material we found to be dense enough to keep the frags from flying away with decent flow.

Wonder if those have been tested in a high flow environment.
Fragpods, are those the same ones I bought last summer that where white? I definitly liked those Nice and heavy.
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