FlameAngel group.

[zemuron114]

beautiful!

[Jaken]

Originally posted by Angel*Fish


Jaken, have you seen spawning angels before?

Yes, but I have only seen it on video, and in books.

video: Centropyge fisheri spawning rise and gamete release

[Jaken]

Originally posted by lvreefer
Some additional info:

There are slight differences in both coloration and markings of this species based on the location of collection. Flames from the Marshall Islands are more red in color, with thicker black bars running vertically down the body. Flames from the Cook Islands are more orange in coloration with either small black bars, or only a few thin bars running vertically down the body. Christmas Island Flames are normally a red/orange coloration with thin black bars running vertically down the body. Flames from Tahiti are blood red and contain very little to no yellow.

My Flame angels are from Christmas Island.

[Angel*Fish]

Originally posted by Jaken
My Flame angels are from Christmas Island.

Jaken, they look like they are getting along ok. If these "non- super males" change chromatically, you might possibly be the first to document it in flames.


What a cool video/photo - I'm going to have to learn how to do those,,,

Christmas Island has good safe collection methods I believe - they have an awareness of saving the environment & ecology that you don't find in lots of other collection areas. Humans have only lived there since 1888 (or similar date).

[fishybuisness]

Jaken hows it going whit the Flame angels ?

Have you seen any late nigth activity or somekind of a change in behaviour ?

[skippyreef]

Excellent thread.

I am looking at doing some groups of Cherubs and other small angels.

I have heard that the Multicolors are hard to get to eat though. Any wisdom that could be passed on here would be hlpeful

[Jaken]

Originally posted by fishybuisness
Jaken hows it going whit the Flame angels ?

Have you seen any late nigth activity or somekind of a change in behaviour ?

There are no big changes in their behavior. Some chasing around, circling and displaying of fins but nothing more then that, jet.

Nothing new to report. They are all doing well and still no fighting or nipping on corals. I try to give them a mixed diet.

This is what I feed my flame angels:

Ocean Nutrition Formula 1 granular food

Ocean Nutrition Formula 2 granular food

Fauna Marin - Ultra-Health granular food


frozen artemia + Sera Fishtamin
+
frozen Ocean Nutrition angel formula

frozen Ocean Nutrition formula 1

frozen Ocean Nutrition formula 2

[LargeAngels]

Most of my angels also love spectrum pellets.

[Jaken]

Originally posted by LargeAngels
Most of my angels also love spectrum pellets.

We don´t have that brand in Sweden.

[LargeAngels]

What about Hakari S pellets?

[Joao Monteiro]

Or, perhaps, Dainichi.
My flame loves them

[Angel*Fish]

For my angels, I go down to the Keys once a week with my snorkel & scrape the LR on the patch reefs. I feed some immediately and keep the rest alive in a separate 55g tank with halides. I used to use pc's on that tank, but found the food stays alive better with the halides for some reason. I keep some extra frozen just in case I have to show houses over the weekend and subsequently miss my snorkel trip.

My fish have never had pellets or other dried food.









































Sorry, I'm just so competitive

[Rothie]

Large Angels-
Are you talking about the Florida Keys?That seems like a long trip every week.

[Angel*Fish]

Originally posted by Rothie
Large Angels-
Are you talking about the Florida Keys?That seems like a long trip every week.

Do you mean "Angel*Fish"?

Yes, that would be quite a drive from my home here in Houston -lol - I was just kidding - I've never even been to the Keys I did make reservations once to rent an island off of Marathon key once (together with another family). But the Island owner ran over a child with their car in New York City which somehow resulted in the loss of our reservation.

[Jaken]

Thanks for all the food tips. I´m pleased with the food mix I use at the moment.

I´m currently testing the Fauna Marin Ultra Health food. I´m impressed of the content, with omega3.

Do you have Fauna Marin products in USA?
http://www.faunamarin.de/eng/

A novel granular food for marine fishes. Supports the immunal system and strengthens the fishes. Ideal as an initial food after import, transport, or other stress situations.
Ultra-Health is highly accepted, even by finicky eaters. It contains high concentrations of Omega-3-fatty acids, highly unsaturated fatty acids, vitamins and herbal extracts, which are immediately and fully available to the fishes. Suitable for all ornamental fish.

Contents:
Protein 54%
Fat 23%
Fibre 1,7%
Ash10,8%

Additives, per kg:
Vit.A 339.620 I.E.
Vit.D3 3.000 I.E.
Vit.E 506 mg (as alpha-Tocopherolacetate)
Vit.C 795 mg
Vit.K3 63,6 mg
Vit.B1 31,8 mg
Vit.B2 79,5 mg
Vit.B6 31,8 mg
Vit.B12 159 mcg
Folic acid 7,95 mg
Ca-D-Pantothenate 159 mg
Biotine 79,5 mcg
Nicotinic acid 477 mg
Choline Chlorid 795 mg

Antioxidants:
BHT,BHA,Propylgallate

[Felixc]

Any new development with these Flames Jaken?

[IPowderBlueTang]

Great awesome post! Love the Flame Angels.

[Jaken]

Originally posted by Felixc
Any new development with these Flames Jaken?

They display spawning behavior in the evenings. But no eggs yet, I think they are only training.

Some new videos. (I Hope you all have broadband...)






Video1, 2mb - jan 2007

Video2, 1,3mb - jan 2007

Video3, 1,1mb - jan 2007

Video4, 0,6mb - jan 2007

Video5, 1,0mb - jan 2007

[adddo]

Woohoo

[Felixc]

I am excited, my group is arrive in a few days. I hope to have as good success as you.

[Jaken]

Originally posted by Felixc
I am excited, my group is arrive in a few days. I hope to have as good success as you.

That´s great Felix. How many will you buy?
Hopfully you will get more females then I did, think I only have two.

Snap a lot of pics (and videos).

[Angel*Fish]

Wow! Fabulous video! Thanks for posting

[Felixc]

I ordered 6 but I haven't decided on how many I actually want to pick up. It will be a last minute decision once the fish arrives. I will definately post some pictures.

Jaken,
Are your angels fighting? Or is it just sexual display that they are put on.

[Jaken]

Originally posted by Felixc

Jaken,
Are your angels fighting? Or is it just sexual display that they are put on.

No, they are not fighting.

But the large male sometimes do chase the smaller ones, but just for a few seconds and then they are "friends" again. I think they are just doing this to keep the hierarchy and social structure within the group, a completly normal behaviour.

In the evenings there is a lot of sexual display.




I´m happy that you all like my photos and videos. Do you experts in here think they will spawn eventually?

[Angel*Fish]

Originally posted by Jaken
No, they are not fighting.

But the large male sometimes do chase the smaller ones, but just for a few seconds and then they are "friends" again. I think they are just doing this to keep the hierarchy and social structure within the group, a completly normal behaviour.

In the evenings there is a lot of sexual display.




I´m happy that you all like my photos and videos. Do you experts in here think they will spawn eventually?

It looks like spawning is immanent - but I have no experience with so many all together . What have you determined as to sex? I'm very curious (& surprised) to know if the large male allows any male mating behavior other than his own.

Since Potter's angels have now been shown to reverse sex, it seems logical to suspect that if you have any males, they will revert to female. If so, I hope you're documenting this!