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View Poll Results: What hard to find angel do you have
Bandit Angel 3 2.54%
Golden Pygmy Angel 3 2.54%
Colins Angel 6 5.08%
Hotumatuas Angel 0 0%
Interuptus Angel 9 7.63%
Joculator Angel 2 1.69%
Resplendent Angel 8 6.78%
Venustus Angel 3 2.54%
Blueline Angel 3 2.54%
Chrysurus Angel 5 4.24%
Conspicillatus Angel 9 7.63%
Multicolor Angel 7 5.93%
Peppermint Angel 49 41.53%
Kingi Angel 11 9.32%
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Old 04/10/2006, 12:37 PM
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The africanus may be rare, but it's so plain looking as an adult.

The kingii I think is pretty cool looking. Love those tiger stripes.
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Old 04/10/2006, 12:45 PM
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Yeah uniqueness could take you far... I met with Frank Baensch at his facility and home last year and he talked about how interuptus were outselling resplendens unbelievably... they're both cool looking but the interuptus is just so unique whereas the resplendens has it's relatives from the mainlands...

Also not brought up are the different hybrids... I believe the kingii hybridizes with trimaculatus (flagfin)... I wanna say there's a pic in the Scott Michael book... and then you've got rare varieties of the common fish such as the all yellow and white xanthic regal angel...
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Old 04/10/2006, 12:59 PM
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Oh yeah...that xanthic regal....yummy.....
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Old 04/23/2006, 01:26 AM
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Great thread guys! What I would do to have a debelius. Would anyone know where to get one? Copps?
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Old 04/23/2006, 04:21 AM
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Rare= Centropyge abei Allen, Young & Colin 2006
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Old 04/23/2006, 06:36 AM
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It is just a 3cm long Centropyge boyei. The first specimen I saw (at a retailer in Tokyo) in 1993. Until recently it was called Paracentropyge boylei, but now it is included in Centropyge again, and venusta and multifasciata, too.


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Old 04/23/2006, 07:59 AM
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H.Tanaka - are you in Miyazaki? I saw your hospital's website and it seems to be. I'm in Miyakonojo.

If you know of any good coral/fish shops in Miyazaki, please let me know!!
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Old 04/23/2006, 08:13 AM
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NexDog,
You know my clinic !? Miyakonojo !! How near we are ! It takes some one hour by car.....
Yes, I know one marine fish-coral (and freshwater fish) shop in Miyazaki City. It is "Papi To Suzu" (they will close at 20:00). Do you speak Japanese ? When you can come I will take you there by car and it is near my home.
Well, where do you come from ?
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Old 04/23/2006, 09:00 AM
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I just saw your home page under your WWW button and saw the Miyazaki address.

I'm English, living here in Miyakonojo for about 8 years. My Japanese is okay - probably not as good as your English! Maybe I wil drive up to Miyazaki with my wife in a week or two so would be happy to meet you, check out your tanks and go to Papi To Suzu. I will PM you.
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Old 04/23/2006, 09:02 AM
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Also not brought up are the different hybrids... I believe the kingii hybridizes with trimaculatus (flagfin)... I wanna say there's a pic in the Scott Michael book...
Thats right. Michael's book is a great angelfish reference, lots of hybrid pics in there, the best angel book IMO.
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Old 04/23/2006, 09:09 AM
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How about the Chaetodontoplus conspicillatus
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Old 04/23/2006, 10:25 AM
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conspics are relatively common vs the others being bandied about.
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Old 04/23/2006, 11:31 AM
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Moonpod, how is your conspic doing. I was at the LFS yesterday and they had a 7" and a perfect 3" (already sold). Good thing the 3" was sold - I might not have been able to resist.
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Old 04/23/2006, 11:42 AM
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I had a tank temp dip in late feb when I was out of town. Everything more than 2-3" died. Everything under that size regardless of species did just fine. Weird and quite brutal. The conspic WAS doing great. I now have a big tank full of rinky dink fish. But I suppose that's ok.

A 3" conspic is a buy on sight fish. They practically never come in at that size.
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Old 04/23/2006, 11:47 AM
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www.oldtownaquarium.com

The blue around the eyes and lips was just starting to come in.
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Old 04/23/2006, 11:50 AM
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NICE....when those things come in at the wholesalers in L.A. they're already spoken for.....

Anyways as I said, there's nothing more than 2-3" in length in my tank now except for a yellow belly hippo tang that's an absolute wus....
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Old 04/23/2006, 02:23 PM
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I have a banded that's alive! I know were the kingi pic. originated from, also recently available were a few clipperton's. Debelius are rarely collected and are for the stupidly wealthy "LOL" as so for the peppermint and only in the far east. Personnatus have not been collected for numerous years and even then I believe some folks got in some trouble? and the Nahackyi are never collected. If Marine Aquatics had any kingi's & africanus, I wonder why he couldn't deliver??? think about it folks!
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Old 04/23/2006, 02:57 PM
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Let me correct myself,... I was told by a reliable sorce that somebody was blowing smoke as far as kingi's & africanus beeing available in this country.
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Old 04/23/2006, 08:29 PM
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How about the Black Angelfish (Chaetodontoplus niger) ? It is known from southern Japan and southeast China Sea, with only a few specimens. It was just photographed also in Ogasawara, as shown below for the first record. No aquarium specimen is known.

http://koba-tan.way-nifty.com/topics...488/index.html
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Old 04/23/2006, 08:44 PM
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That's a rare one, I know of a few that were collected but never made it past a few weeks
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Old 04/23/2006, 10:14 PM
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has anyone ever seen a Armitagi Angelfish?

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Old 04/23/2006, 10:24 PM
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I saw an Armitage angel a few months ago - it was kinda ugly. It looked like a flagfin with muddy markings around the egdes.
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Old 04/23/2006, 10:34 PM
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Ya there not that nice, they come from the Maldives and some people think they're actually some sort of hybrid??
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Old 04/23/2006, 10:45 PM
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intresting, thanks.

what about the genicanthus personatus aka the masked angel fish.

i have not heard of anyone keeping these with long term success in captivity.

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Old 04/23/2006, 10:58 PM
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"Apolemichthys armitagei" is a hybrid of A. trimaculatus (Flagfin) x xanthurus (Indian Smoke), and then it comes mainly from around Maldives, but they are duskier than trimaculatus and some parts are black. They are available on rare occasion in Japan but too expensive for most aquarists.

Genicanthus personatus is a hard to keep for a long period, because they do not accept any food. Some juveniles were raised at Waikiki Aquarium several years ago; tiny juveniles of the genus can be kept successfully, but large adults are much difficult.
 


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