It begins... 345-gallon Starphire in-wall system - Page 15

jnarowe · #**351** 04/27/2007, 11:24 PM

I have yet to have the fish I am trying to catch actually go inside. ALL the other fish will of course!

mrcrab · #**352** 04/27/2007, 11:34 PM

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Originally posted by Sparkss
Wish we were closer to lend you a hand in trapping out those fish

thanks spaarks, wish you were too.

mrcrab · #**353** 04/27/2007, 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by erics3000
humm... One time I drained my 75 and took out half the rock to get a fish to put in my other tank. It was a pita. I guess when you big it is no where as near as easy..

Hopefully the fish turn around for the better..Good Luck.

Not really an option. Thanks for the suggestion though.

mrcrab · #**354** 04/27/2007, 11:37 PM

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Originally posted by erics3000
What about on of the acrylic fish traps?

I actually went out bought the acrylic and built one...I think it's more of a patience issue or lack thereof!

mrcrab · #**355** 04/27/2007, 11:45 PM

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Originally posted by melev
They do work, but it takes some time. First of all, put the trap in the tank for a few days with the door open (or removed). Then the day you are ready, put some tasty food in the trap, reset the door, and stand away so you are mainly out of sight. Various fish will enter, but the one you want will not exit if you're quick.

Again, patience being an issue...plus the fact that the back of my tank is blacked out and it's difficult to see what's going on with the trap without standing over the tank.

I'll have some time next week. I might give it another try. I haven't seen a recurrence of the ick for about 4 weeks now. I've got some critters in QT at the moment so I'm umming and awwing about putting them in the display as there hasn't been an outbreak for awhile. It may also have been velvet or a combination of the 2.

erics3000 · #**356** 05/22/2007, 07:48 PM

Any new updates or pics??

chrisjet · #**357** 07/07/2007, 05:35 PM

great thread just read the whole thing. My garage looks like yours except worse!

erics3000 · #**358** 07/30/2007, 06:27 PM

I hope you fish are doing better..

erics3000 · #**359** 07/30/2007, 06:32 PM

I hope you fish are doing better..I finally ordered my tank. Thanks again for the info,,

mrcrab · #**360** 07/30/2007, 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by erics3000
I hope you fish are doing better..

I've got half of them in QT and haven't had time to "fish" the rest of the buggers out!

erics3000 · #**361** 07/30/2007, 07:43 PM

Time ..Never enough time..

NexDog · #**362** 08/04/2007, 01:43 AM

If you can't get all the fish out you will run the risk of this happening in the future. But some people don't use QT and actually through very sick fish in their stable system saying the stable fish "cures" them. This can work but the pathogens are always there and it only takes one small thing to stress fish out and boom, fishocide.

The PBT looked like it had Brooklynella. It's a fast killer but usually only attacks Clownfish but in the past I've had it kill other animals too. Formalin is the only treatment for that. If you are trying to save fish then copper is the best choice as it works the fastest. Hypo takes 3 weeks to actually kill the Ich. I've never used copper as I QT all new fish for 6 week. I've had terrible QT results and excellent QT results but after about 4 cycles I think I have the system down down now and I enthusiastically recommend hypo QT with Formalin and Paraguard. Can be brutal but it ensures you don't kill off all your prized fish.

mrcrab · #**363** 08/04/2007, 05:21 PM

Thanks,

I still need to put some time aside to get the rest of the fish out. All my visitors will be gone next week, the first time we've had everyone out for the past 5 months. I'll make time then. Haven't added any finned critters for awhile and everything that's in the display and qt is doing well. Jut need to let the main tank go fallow, do the hypo thing with the qt and kill everything for good.

I see you're getting back on track. Hope things come together quickly for you and you can stop the stn.

What is your qt protocol now?

NexDog · #**364** 08/04/2007, 09:21 PM

I use a 50g tank which has Remora Pro hang-on skimmer and a UV Steriliser. It has 2 Powerheads, some LR (few chunks) and some pieces of pipe. I keep two sponges in there two to help maintain the denitrification while it's empty. The main issue with QT is maintaining water quality so I change water twice a week (except when I'm medicating). I add fish, lower salinity into hypo quite quickly, wait a week and treat with Formalin for one week. After the week is up I wait another week and then I treat with Paraguard for one week. After 5-6 weeks I raise salinity very slowly over a week by replacing QT water with main system water. I think the last time i did it I didn't lose a single fish. Looking forward to adding some more fish after the hot weather is done with.

cparedes · #**365** 08/05/2007, 05:55 AM

seeing all these big inwall tanks are making my 150 inwall look like nothing

mrcrab · #**366** 08/05/2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by cparedes
seeing all these big inwall tanks are making my 150 inwall look like nothing

You have to start somewhere. I started off with a 125.

mrcrab · #**367** 08/05/2007, 10:23 AM

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Originally posted by NexDog
I use a 50g tank which has Remora Pro hang-on skimmer and a UV Steriliser. It has 2 Powerheads, some LR (few chunks) and some pieces of pipe. I keep two sponges in there two to help maintain the denitrification while it's empty. The main issue with QT is maintaining water quality so I change water twice a week (except when I'm medicating). I add fish, lower salinity into hypo quite quickly, wait a week and treat with Formalin for one week. After the week is up I wait another week and then I treat with Paraguard for one week. After 5-6 weeks I raise salinity very slowly over a week by replacing QT water with main system water. I think the last time i did it I didn't lose a single fish. Looking forward to adding some more fish after the hot weather is done with.

Thanks Lawrence,

i QT'd everything that went into my 125 after a similar incident, just got impatient on this one. Lesson learned...AGAIN!

mrcrab · #**368** 08/12/2007, 06:08 PM

well, not much of an update but at least a piece of eye candy. As you know I bought an elegance coral a few months back that didn't fair very well. A local reefer who has had one for 6 months in her system added too much flow that it wasn't happy with so she decided to sell it off and I got it. here' the new addition.

not the best pic but you get the idea. Opened up straight away after acclimation and hopefully will do well.

I finally got my Ca reactor back online and most of my visitors are gone, last one should be gone this week. Projects are just about wound up and should have time to get the rest of the critters out to QT for the ich and get the rest of the tank straightened out.

jnarowe · #**369** 08/12/2007, 06:22 PM

very nice specimen. good luck with it!

mrcrab · #**370** 08/12/2007, 07:01 PM

Thanks, it seems to be very happy where it is.

jnarowe · #**371** 08/12/2007, 07:10 PM

Well, they are hard to keep, and often considered a tasty treat.

mrcrab · #**372** 08/12/2007, 07:16 PM

Well I lost my emperor with the ick outbreak and hoping no one else will be sampling it.

jnarowe · #**373** 08/12/2007, 08:22 PM

damn ich. that had to of hurt. I have been lucky and never lost anything to ich.

erics3000 · #**374** 08/12/2007, 08:26 PM

glad your ready to get back at it..

mrcrab · #**375** 08/12/2007, 08:41 PM

Yeah Jonathan it hurt alot. Most of the casualties happened when I was WA. Then I thought it had settled down and added some more livestock and it reared it's ugly head again. This time no impatients or mistakes everythings heading for a hypo qt and nothing else goes in without the same treatment.

erics3000: Me too. Had entirely too many distractions with all the visitors and lots of work.