Reef Central Online Community

Home Forum Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences View New Posts View Today's Posts

Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Search Reefkeeping ...an online magazine for marine aquarists Support our sponsors and mention Reef Central

Go Back   Reef Central Online Community Archives > Marine Fish Forums > Reef Fishes
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12/15/2007, 08:36 PM
giller giller is offline
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: swampscott
Posts: 70
angelfish sponge diet

How are people getting their angels that require sponge (ie regals) what they need. Are there any other alternatives Ocean Nutritions angel formula and pygmy angel formula? Does anyone know where you can buy edible marine sponge if there is such a thing? All comments are appreciated.

- Dave
  #2  
Old 12/15/2007, 09:39 PM
philter4 philter4 is offline
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: sunrise fl
Posts: 190
You could go to the LFS and buy sponges, not sure how cost effective that is though. I have raised rock beauty, queen and bandit angels, all of which in the wild are obligate sponge feeders, with a variety of foods that have high nutritional value and kept individuals for long periods ( the trio of rock beauty I have now are 6-7 years old). As long as they are young enough at capture to accept other foods I believe they will do well.

Sponge is not all that nutritious so the fish has to eat a lot to get it's nutrition. Here in FL the main sponge angels feed on green rope sponge, I've read that it is 90% of an adult queen or rock beauty diet. The problem with this sponge is that once it is messed with it begins to release toxins to protect itself, so the fish eat a little then move to the next one. I've cut some as food and it killed everything in the live well that was with it. Also it produces this black mucus that stains your skin, so I'm pretty sure they can't use it as a processed food. There is a soft purple sponge here as well that I've grown in my reef, feeding it marine snow and getting it to grow, that my angels eat down to the rock if they can get to it, but I have never seen it with bite marks or being eaten in the ocean.

I have talked to Andy Schmidt of San Francisco Brine, they buy fresh sponge and use it in the angel food they produce. I have never tried this product, but I have used others and found them to have good quality.

Good luck
  #3  
Old 12/16/2007, 09:46 AM
CarlC CarlC is offline
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Pottsville, PA
Posts: 882
Dave search your area for a good asian market. Look in the frozen section. Besides sponge you'll find Conch, squid and just about anything else you could think of using as a food item.

Carl
  #4  
Old 12/16/2007, 10:23 AM
ReefTeacher ReefTeacher is offline
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 13
Carl,
are you sure you can find sponge in an Asian Market? I have looked, even with native speakers of Chinese, and no one seems to think they are eaten by humans. Do you know what they are called, either in English or Chinese?

On a related topic, at New Year the Chinese savor sea cucumber as a delicacy. You can buy them in great numbers in China town. Does any fish eat these?
  #5  
Old 12/16/2007, 10:58 AM
CarlC CarlC is offline
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Pottsville, PA
Posts: 882
I have seen it offered. I don't get to that grocery much since it about a two hour drive but next time down I will get the name. It wasn't a big package and was pretty expensive so I never picked any up. I raise my own so didn't have a urgent need to but it.

Carl
  #6  
Old 12/16/2007, 11:11 AM
CarlC CarlC is offline
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Pottsville, PA
Posts: 882
I should also mention that I have no idea if these are used as food items. I can't read the packaging. I also have no idea where they are collected at so they very well could be toxic if eatten. Maybe they are just whole unprocessed sponges used for cleaning. I'll ask next time down.

Carl
 


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:21 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Use of this web site is subject to the terms and conditions described in the user agreement.
Reef Central™ Reef Central, LLC. Copyright ©1999-2009