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| View Poll Results: What hard to find angel do you have | |||
| Bandit Angel |
   
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3 | 2.54% |
| Golden Pygmy Angel |
  
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3 | 2.54% |
| Colins Angel |
  
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6 | 5.08% |
| Hotumatuas Angel |
  
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0 | 0% |
| Interuptus Angel |
  
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9 | 7.63% |
| Joculator Angel |
  
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2 | 1.69% |
| Resplendent Angel |
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8 | 6.78% |
| Venustus Angel |
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3 | 2.54% |
| Blueline Angel |
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3 | 2.54% |
| Chrysurus Angel |
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5 | 4.24% |
| Conspicillatus Angel |
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9 | 7.63% |
| Multicolor Angel |
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7 | 5.93% |
| Peppermint Angel |
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49 | 41.53% |
| Kingi Angel |
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11 | 9.32% |
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#253
07/17/2006, 04:43 PM
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JCDelbeek, to answer the question you posted on the clipperton angel on page 9, I have heard of someone who has kept one in a personal tank. I found it on wetwebmedia. This guy kept it in a 4,000 gallon aquarium with a clarion, Holacanthus africanus, and numerous other oddities. He was also looking to purchase another clarion. If you would like to read it yourself go to wetwebmedia and go to the angelfish section. Go to the clarion FAQ's and scroll to the very bottom of the page, it is the last question,
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07/17/2006, 04:43 PM
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JCDelbeek, to answer the question you posted on the clipperton angel on page 9, I have heard of someone who has kept one in a personal tank. I found it on wetwebmedia. This guy kept it in a 4,000 gallon aquarium with a clarion, Holacanthus africanus, and numerous other oddities. He was also looking to purchase another clarion. If you would like to read it yourself go to wetwebmedia and go to the angelfish section. Go to the clarion FAQ's and scroll to the very bottom of the page, it is the last question,
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07/17/2006, 11:42 PM
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Thanks Angels ... that is Michael Gonzales ... I know of him and have spoken with him, his died ... and he has been trying to get another every since. Last I heard he was going to charter a float plane to go to Clipperton Island and collect them himself ... not sure if that scheme ever "flew" or not. :-)
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#256
07/18/2006, 02:12 AM
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I guess not many have this luck:
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#257
07/18/2006, 08:13 AM
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#258
07/18/2006, 11:17 AM
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Those resplendents are probably owned by RCT where they breed them
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#259
07/18/2006, 11:28 AM
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That image is not from RCT... I've been to visit Frank and he does not keep any coral... you could clearly see live hard corals in that image...
Peter, is that image related to the 2004 trip? Ah... what images...   
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#261
07/18/2006, 12:48 PM
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juvenile french angel, they get pretty big and lose their yellow stripes as they mature
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#262
07/18/2006, 12:50 PM
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Charles, what else did Michael have in that impressive tank?
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#263
07/18/2006, 01:17 PM
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i dont think it is... or is it even younger than this picture here?
here is a juvie french:  the one i posted before has shorter fins and some blue on its underside Last edited by jakaufman; 07/18/2006 at 01:44 PM. |
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#264
07/18/2006, 01:47 PM
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looks more like a sub-adult french
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07/18/2006, 02:07 PM
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#266
07/18/2006, 02:09 PM
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I would say that the Pepps have to be top 3 rarest. None has ever been known to exist in captivity in the US and are one of the most hardest to keep in captivity. I cannot speak for other countries like the UK or Japan because RARE angels and other RARE specimens are a lot easier to come by oppose to the US market.
The Hotumatuas I have actually seen and I have seen them at a LFS in my area as well as some of the rarest angels available. Great fish to have and not too pricey but not very hardy in captivity as well and looses the nice colors once it is adult. The last time I have seen the Clarions was when I went to visit a member in the bay who had 3 of them as well as 3-4 GemTangs and the a RARE hog (looks like a large pepperming hog) I would definitely agree that the KINGII is one of the rarest as well as the CLips but there is one angel that is pretty rare and it comes from the Queensland Coast and The Great Barrier Reef and thats the personifer/conspics Hybrid. I have called on the fish for a price a few years ago and was given the price of $3K which is not bad for such a rare piece.
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#267
07/18/2006, 02:37 PM
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 Just like queen and blues these two hybridize... Martin Moe produced grey/french hybrids by fertilizing grey eggs with french males, as a result of female french angels being harder to find... Of all produced, this was the whackiest abnormality... note the combination of grey/french traits...  On a side note that was just mentioned earlier... here's an image of a meredithii/conspic hybrid... 
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07/18/2006, 02:46 PM
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Fishsoldeptrtly,
Where did ya see hotumatuas, and what is not pricey? Do you know of anybody selling them now? Im looking for them for quite some time. |
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#269
07/18/2006, 02:47 PM
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the pic of the merdithi/conspics I have and was shown from the exporter who exports them, has them at a nicer more brighter orange colors. the tail is more orange and so is the head to the dorsal but has the blue around the eyes like the conspics and the body goes from orangeto a bluish hue.
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07/18/2006, 02:51 PM
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#271
07/18/2006, 03:00 PM
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fishsold... that image is of a little guy, and admittedly is not the best... If I was selling them, I'd get a better image too!
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07/18/2006, 03:27 PM
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#273
07/18/2006, 03:46 PM
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Also, one of the cardinal sins in a thread like this is to talk about a picture you can't post right away!
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#274
07/18/2006, 04:06 PM
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I can post a pic once I an get a hold of a bette pic. the one I have is of one back in 2003 and is on photopaper. I have since relocated and got a new comp since then and dont have the resources or pics I used to have in my old comp.
The pic of the hybrid looks more like a clarion but without the bars and it gets darker w/ bluish hue after the head of the angel and orange tail. I emailed the exporter of the fish for a pic so once I get one then I can try to post of a more rescent pic. The one posted looks nothing like it and looks more like a reg juv conspics. If I had a calling card I would call him but I dont.. LOL
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#275
07/18/2006, 06:06 PM
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fishsoldseprtly,
I didnt look for them in Sacramento (is that where Mike Bibby is?? ), but I was looking for them basicly all over the world, Hong Kong didnt get a single specimen last winter and they usualy come in December-January.I didnt hear anything from LA 104th st either. Your guy have them for sale??? 
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